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Hawk_Kegmasters
06-09-2009, 12:47 PM
http://www.kcci.com/news/19691069/detail.html

Anybody have more details about this incident?

POLK COUNTY, Iowa -- Hospital officials said Tuesday that an Urbandale man died in the hospital after a standoff with deputies on Monday.Polk County sheriff's spokeswoman Jana Rooker said Justin Schleuning, 21, was taken to Mercy Medical Center "after sustaining potential life-threatening injuries during the incident."


Rooker said the Polk County Communications Center received a call from a distraught man, later identified as Schleuning, who claimed that he had a loaded gun and was going to kill himself at 1:16 a.m. on Monday

Schleuning told dispatchers that he was in a vehicle but would not give his exact location.


Officers were able to locate him using the cell phone GPS system. He was found at 350 NW 74th Ave., which is just south of the Ankeny city limits.

Deputies requested additional resources, including crisis negotiators, to assist with the situation. Following several hours of unsuccessful negotiations, the man exited the vehicle, where deputies utilized less-than-lethal rounds to bring the situation to a conclusion, said officials.

Hospital officials said Schleuning died Tuesday.


The Division of Criminal Investigation has been asked to assist with the investigation.
Pseudonym
06-09-2009, 12:50 PM
So less than lethal rounds---were lethal? What does that make them then?
PhilHartman
06-09-2009, 12:51 PM
Ummm.....

Where deputies utilized less-than-lethal rounds to bring the situation to a conclusion, said officials. Hospital officials said Schleuning died Tuesday.
MikeyJoe
06-09-2009, 12:52 PM
Following several hours of unsuccessful negotiations, the man exited the vehicle, where deputies utilized less-than-lethal rounds to bring the situation to a conclusion, said officials.
Fail.
Verbal
06-09-2009, 12:54 PM
Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round = Lethal round.
BrAd Hominem
06-09-2009, 12:55 PM
Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round + Non-lethal round = Lethal round.

Edited for accuracy.
Jimmie Dimmick
06-09-2009, 12:56 PM
Following several hours of unsuccessful negotiations, the man exited the vehicle, where deputies utilized less-than-lethal rounds to bring the situation to a conclusion, said officials.
Fail.

I'm guessing that one of those rounds was live.
PipeDaddy
06-09-2009, 05:52 PM
What is a less than lethal round anyway?
brantshawks
06-09-2009, 05:53 PM
What is a less than lethal round anyway?
Rocket fire is actually another word for 'Legal Round'. Instead of the police rocket firing their gun it at the perp, they just fire it at them instead.
MikeyJoe
06-09-2009, 05:58 PM
What is a less than lethal round anyway?
Rubber bullets and bean bags typically.
PipeDaddy
06-09-2009, 06:14 PM
What is a less than lethal round anyway?
Rubber bullets and bean bags typically.

Is it usual for police to fire such things at a guy presumed to have an active weapon?
sobrien51
06-09-2009, 06:52 PM
What is a less than lethal round anyway?

It's a round that has an intended affect that is less than killing a person. ;)
sobrien51
06-09-2009, 06:53 PM
What is a less than lethal round anyway?
Rocket fire is actually another word for 'Legal Round'. Instead of the police rocket firing their gun it at the perp, they just fire it at them instead.

Those cops were definitely rocking and firing.
Perham1
06-09-2009, 07:33 PM
I have to suspect that cops love and live for this crap.

They get to kill someone without getting into trouble.
Mo T
06-09-2009, 07:35 PM
I have to suspect that cops love and live for this crap.

They get to kill someone without getting into trouble.

Weak effort tonight........
Hawk4Life94
06-10-2009, 10:49 AM
So how many of these things would you have to get hit by and where for it to kill you?
brantshawks
06-10-2009, 11:23 AM
So how many of these things would you have to get hit by and where for it to kill you?

Didn't Knoxville from Jackass take one of these to the stomach and he was told that if it was any higher to his chest, it could initiate cardiac arrest?
Legend12
06-10-2009, 11:26 AM
So how many of these things would you have to get hit by and where for it to kill you?

Didn't Knoxville from Jackass take one of these to the stomach and he was told that if it was any higher to his chest, it could initiate cardiac arrest?

250 feet per second...they call it "less lethal"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9ls5NO3GHI
Legend12
06-10-2009, 11:27 AM
I have no idea how to inbed a YoutTube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9ls5NO3GHI
brantshawks
06-10-2009, 11:28 AM
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brantshawks
06-11-2009, 10:31 AM
Big time whoops.

''Shot Fired In Standoff Was Lethal Round''

http://www.kcci.com/news/19716457/detail.html
Jimmie Dimmick
06-11-2009, 10:37 AM
Big time whoops.

''Shot Fired In Standoff Was Lethal Round''

http://www.kcci.com/news/19716457/detail.html

lethal rounds were mixed in with non lethal rounds

sounds almost deliberate
brantshawks
06-11-2009, 10:37 AM
I think they were just refilming 'The Crow'.
BrAd Hominem
06-11-2009, 10:48 AM
I have no idea how to inbed a YoutTube video

Why do you want to have sex with a online video clip? ;)
brantshawks
06-11-2009, 10:48 AM
I have no idea how to inbed a YoutTube video

Why do you want to have sex with a online video clip? ;)

I don't know, man....there's some pretty good clips out there.
Verbal
06-11-2009, 10:59 AM
I think they were just refilming 'The Crow'.

:lol:
ISUFan98
12-15-2009, 02:42 PM
Update: Looks like the County settled for $385k.

Sad story all around.
PhilHartman
12-15-2009, 03:09 PM
Suicide by Cop

Is that what they're calling the police gunning down civilians now?
PhilHartman
12-15-2009, 03:11 PM
Update: Looks like the County settled for $385k.

Sad story all around.

That's 2 fewer police harassing the populace.
Mrs. G
12-15-2009, 03:33 PM
Any idea if it is a pre-requisite for each candidate to be tazered, attacked by a police dog, clubbed, taken down and cuffed and then shot with a non lethal round before becoming an officer?
Jimmie Dimmick
12-15-2009, 05:04 PM
Any idea if it is a pre-requisite for each candidate to be tazered, attacked by a police dog, clubbed, taken down and cuffed and then shot with a non lethal round before becoming an officer?

tazered and pepper spray are the only requirements I know of, and they're only required if you want to carry them.