Steve Deace gets into it with another BVP supporter

[Mr. Hawk]

We know that Deace likes to piss off other conservatives on air (Michael Reagan and the Chair of the Southern Baptist Convention, to name two recent ones), but I certainly didn't see this one coming.

Every Monday Deace has Craig Robinson on from The Iowa Republican. Craig is pretty clearly a BVP supporter, even though in an attempt to salvage credibility and the air of neutrality for his website, he attempts to downplay his support (though he's not always successful).

Craig is in a tough spot, because he's a BVP supporter, and clearly wants to stay in the limelight by going on Deace's show every week and building his website, but he also knows that if he completely sells out for BVP, he'll lose the potential for becoming a go-to site for Iowa Republican news. And he'd also get cut off from the coveted "access" to the other campaigns if he just went all out for BVP.

Last night they were discussing Branstad, and they got into it, basically because Robinson wouldn't call Branstad evil.

Listen to the podcast here (http://www.whoradio.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=deace.xml) (Inside Politics 10/19/09)

Good stuff.

[ISUFan98]

The segment is cut off after about 5 minutes.

[MickerHawk]

No thanks, I'd rather take your word for it than to listen to Deace.

[Mr. Hawk]

The segment is cut off after about 5 minutes.
:rotf:

[atemp]

....think Iowa radio needs more options.

[Wild Onion]

The segment is cut off after about 5 minutes.

Odd

[Gushawk]

I also would prefer to read MH's summaries to stay abreast of Deace related news and commentary. Don't take that the wrong way, however, I do find it somewhat interesting in a Republican car wreck kind of way.

[ISUFan98]

You're going to have to paraphrase the conversation for us, MH.

[Mr. Hawk]

You're going to have to paraphrase the conversation for us, MH.
Paraphrase/Summary:

Deace: 'Terry Branstad is evil!"
Robinson: 'No, he's not evil. He's got an argument to make.'
Deace: 'Are you a Branstad supporter?'
Robinson: 'No. Look, all I'm saying is that Terry Branstad isn't evil'
Deace: "You're a sellout who only wants this to be a coronation for Branstad!'

[Cigdude]

Deace loves this, everytime we talk about him his show wins. Steve Deace is awesome! Keep up the good fight

[opiate of the masses]

who the hell listens to this guy? is he actually entertaining?

because w/ all the stuff that he says (or at least that gets attributed to him on this bb) it's hard to believe that he has too many listeners. unless iowans are just really really dumb

[Gushawk]

who the hell listens to this guy? is he actually entertaining?

because w/ all the stuff that he says (or at least that gets attributed to him on this bb) it's hard to believe that he has too many listeners. unless iowans are just really really dumb

His listeners are either (1) dumb (e.g. the ones who believe/agree with virtually everything he says) or (2) the Iowa GOP equivalent of liberal Limbaugh listeners (e.g., Mr. Hawk). There are enough people in those two camps to generate an audience big enough to support a successful and profitable show, by DSM radio standards.

[MickerHawk]

His listeners are either (1) dumb (e.g. the ones who believe/agree with virtually everything he says) or (2) the Iowa GOP equivalent of liberal Limbaugh listeners (e.g., Mr. Hawk). There are enough people in those two camps to generate an audience big enough to support a successful and profitable show, by DSM radio standards.

I don't know, so I'll ask - is there any radio station in Iowa that's more successful than WHO?

I can't imagine it. KRNA probably has as many listeners, but their demographic is dirt poor.

[TH1974]

who the hell listens to this guy? is he actually entertaining?

because w/ all the stuff that he says (or at least that gets attributed to him on this bb) it's hard to believe that he has too many listeners. unless iowans are just really really dumb

His listeners are either (1) dumb (e.g. the ones who believe/agree with virtually everything he says) or (2) the Iowa GOP equivalent of liberal Limbaugh listeners (e.g., Mr. Hawk). There are enough people in those two camps to generate an audience big enough to support a successful and profitable show, by DSM radio standards.

I listen occasionally, and I'm a pinko lib. It's entertaining in the cheap, car-wreck way.

[Mr. Hawk]

okay, he says he put the full podcast up now.

"Inside Politics 10/19/09" (http://www.whoradio.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=deace.xml)

[funnelcake]

Sounds like he is doing it right, to some degree, if any reaction is what he is looking for

[drbutkus]

I cannot tolerate listening to him. My ability to listen to proselytizing ninnies is at an all time low.

[Mrs. G]

I cannot tolerate listening to him. My ability to listen to proselytizing ninnies is at an all time low.

Kind of like people who blather on about tort reform?

[TH1974]

This is great radio here tonight, boyz.

[Mr. Hawk]

This is great radio here tonight, boyz.
you listening now? lol. he's going after Gingrich.

[ISUFan98]

This is great radio here tonight, boyz.
you listening now? lol. he's going after Gingrich.

He's interviewing Gingrich or just going off on him?

[TH1974]

This is great radio here tonight, boyz.
you listening now? lol. he's going after Gingrich.

He's interviewing Gingrich or just going off on him?

Just going off on him.

[Mr. Hawk]

This is great radio here tonight, boyz.
you listening now? lol. he's going after Gingrich.

He's interviewing Gingrich or just going off on him?
just going off on him right now. he just said he won't have Gingrich on now, because he (Deace) seems to get into arguments with every prominent republican that comes on his show (which should tell him something but it doesn't).

[TH1974]

Got his wingnut female companion all worked up, too.

[TH1974]

he just said he won't have Gingrich on now, because he (Deace) seems to get into arguments with every prominent republican that comes on his show (which should tell him something but it doesn't).

Yeah, I thought that was very funny. Reminds me of this guy I used to work with who never got along with anyone and was convinced that everyone else was the root of the problem.

[TH1974]

I love this Taft piece now, too.

[Wild Onion]

you listening now? lol. he's going after Gingrich.

He's interviewing Gingrich or just going off on him?
just going off on him right now. he just said he won't have Gingrich on now, because he (Deace) seems to get into arguments with every prominent republican that comes on his show (which should tell him something but it doesn't).

Gingrich deserves any scorn he's getting on his endorsement and comments in the NY-23 race.

[Mr. Hawk]

Got his wingnut female companion all worked up, too.
I like her voice but she's not talented or bright enough to be a good conversation companion for him on air.

[Debit One]

Got his wingnut female companion all worked up, too.
I like her voice

Thus is inexplicable. She is nails on a chalkboard for me.

[Wild Onion]

I love this Taft piece now, too.

Deace puts together some pretty good stuff in those pieces.

[Mr. Hawk]

I love this Taft piece now, too.

Deace puts together some pretty good stuff in those pieces.good ideas, but they go on too long, imo. if they'd shorten them by 35%, they'd be a great deal funnier.

[TH1974]

Got his wingnut female companion all worked up, too.
I like her voice

Thus is inexplicable. She is nails on a chalkboard for me.

This.

[newsbreaker]

Being a total moron sometimes sounds like nails on a chalkboard.

[Mr. Hawk]

Being a total moron sometimes sounds like nails on a chalkboard.
that's what I'm thinking. I think she's dumb for sure, but I can separate my personal distaste for her views from my analysis of her voice.

but that's what makes me elite.

[newsbreaker]

This is going to sound terrible to some, but it's a fact, so that's their problem not mine:

Very few women have voices that won't make you want to kill yourself when heard on the radio. Fewer still have voices that the majority of people will enjoy. Very, very few can mix an attractive "radio" personality in with either.

In terms of average female radio voice quality, she's better than many. She is totally lacking in all other categories.

[Mr. Hawk]

Is she hot?

[newsbreaker]

I've never seen her. It's doubtful, though.

99% of women on-air in radio are thick. Quite thick.

[ISUFan98]

Is she hot?

Average.

You can find her on FB.

[ivan_drago]

I like that Stevie does a commercial about how much weight he lost. Except he's still really fat.

[drbutkus]

I cannot tolerate listening to him. My ability to listen to proselytizing ninnies is at an all time low.

Kind of like people who blather on about tort reform?

It must be tough for you and your hubby, trying to decided who is going to do what to who first.

[Gushawk]

I heard Deace say yesterday morning that he and his grade school aged daughter play "Semi-Charmed Life" on Guitar Hero together, and that it's okay because she doesn't understand the lyrics. I chuckled.

[lilzaphod]

This is going to sound terrible to some, but it's a fact, so that's their problem not mine:

Very few women have voices that won't make you want to kill yourself when heard on the radio. Fewer still have voices that the majority of people will enjoy. Very, very few can mix an attractive "radio" personality in with either.

In terms of average female radio voice quality, she's better than many. She is totally lacking in all other categories.

That's an engineering problem. Stop trying to use the same microphones as a "one size fits all" solution, and buy the correct microphones for your personalities, and it's a non issue.

Men's voices carry more bass, so they resonate at a different level. A woman's voice will sound tinny on the same mic as it can't punch it at the same level.

With that metric, what you've just stated would mean that every woman singer would sound like Janis Joplin, and that's just not the case.

[newsbreaker]

This is going to sound terrible to some, but it's a fact, so that's their problem not mine:

Very few women have voices that won't make you want to kill yourself when heard on the radio. Fewer still have voices that the majority of people will enjoy. Very, very few can mix an attractive "radio" personality in with either.

In terms of average female radio voice quality, she's better than many. She is totally lacking in all other categories.

That's an engineering problem. Stop trying to use the same microphones as a "one size fits all" solution, and buy the correct microphones for your personalities, and it's a non issue.

Men's voices carry more bass, so they resonate at a different level. A woman's voice will sound tinny on the same mic as it can't punch it at the same level.

With that metric, what you've just stated would mean that every woman singer would sound like Janis Joplin, and that's just not the case.

Three issues at play here.

Stations purchase very expensive microphones. Most stations also have both male and female jocks using the same microphones by budgetary necessity. You can't have jocks changing out microphones all the time and expect them to stay in good working condition, hence microphones are set up for the predominant users - men.

Second, the microphones are less the issue than the processing. The processing is set up to bring something out of the music, not the jocks. The calculation to get processing right can take months (even years) to get just perfect. Even if each jock could change the processing, you wouldn't want them to. Each jock couldn't change the processing, because processing isn't automated, and most of the day is pre-recorded, meaning someone would have to be in there many times a day (even on weekends) adjusting the processing. This would be a waste of time, since the average jock might fill six minutes an hour. Tops. Processing almost always brings out the best in male voices - not in female. Even the "best" microphone for a particular jock is going to sound "wrong" because of processing.

Third, as we all know, speaking and singing voices are not the same. What is displeasing in a speaking voice is not necessarily displeasing in a singing voice.


There are other, primarily sociological issues that put female jocks at a disadvantage as well, but that's another issue.

[Tonto]

No female radio host has a more annoying voice than ultra liberal Randi Rhodes. That chick is obnoxious.

[TH1974]

No female radio host has a more annoying voice than ultra liberal Randi Rhodes. That chick is obnoxious.

That's not completely untrue. This woman on WHO is close, though.

[drbutkus]

No female radio host has a more annoying voice than ultra liberal Randi Rhodes. That chick is obnoxious.

LOL. You have never listened to Lynn Samuels on the Left channel on Sirius.

http://aconservativeedge.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/lynn_ann07207-jpeg-image-400x297-pixels.jpg

[Mr. Hawk]

No female radio host has a more annoying voice than ultra liberal Randi Rhodes.
http://www.hawkeyelounge.com/showthread.php?t=52753

[TH1974]

No female radio host has a more annoying voice than ultra liberal Randi Rhodes.
http://www.hawkeyelounge.com/showthread.php?t=52753

Incorrect. Rhodes is worse.

[RoseBowl1982]

No thanks, I'd rather take your word for it than to listen to Deace.

Barry Sortero should write Steve Deace a Thank You note. If not for Deace attacking Mitt Romney, Romney would be the POTUS and none of us would know who Barry is, right now.

Well, that part wouldn't change, I guess. :rolleyes:

[Wild Onion]

Barry Sortero should write Steve Deace a Thank You note. If not for Deace attacking Mitt Romney, Romney would be the POTUS and none of us would know who Barry is, right now.

Please post more. Thank you in advance.

[RoseBowl1982]

who the hell listens to this guy? is he actually entertaining?

because w/ all the stuff that he says (or at least that gets attributed to him on this bb) it's hard to believe that he has too many listeners. unless iowans are just really really dumb

You might want to consider putting down the bong for a while. The reason Steve Deace runs about 3 hours in prime time Des Moines? He gets listeners. Oh and thank God he's out there trying to enlighten Iowans to the agenda of the corrupt left-wing politicians, who currently control the Iowa house.

Nice day, ok?

[Mr. Hawk]

Barry Sortero should write Steve Deace a Thank You note. If not for Deace attacking Mitt Romney, Romney would be the POTUS and none of us would know who Barry is, right now.How did Deace's attack on Mitt Romney in Iowa either (a) cause Barry to win the Democratic nomination or (b) win the election?

[DoeyHawk]

Barry Sortero should write Steve Deace a Thank You note. If not for Deace attacking Mitt Romney, Romney would be the POTUS and none of us would know who Barry is, right now.How did Deace's attack on Mitt Romney in Iowa either (a) cause Barry to win the Democratic nomination or (b) win the election?

Apparently Deace's vast national audience took Steve's pearls of wisdom to heart and decided to nominate Huck???????????

[nolookpass]

No thanks, I'd rather take your word for it than to listen to Deace.

Barry Sortero should write Steve Deace a Thank You note. If not for Deace attacking Mitt Romney, Romney would be the POTUS and none of us would know who Barry is, right now.

Well, that part wouldn't change, I guess. :rolleyes::rotf:

[mobyditch]

Nothing discussed by Deace should be considered "good stuff"..

[Mr. Hawk]

Barry Sortero should write Steve Deace a Thank You note. If not for Deace attacking Mitt Romney, Romney would be the POTUS and none of us would know who Barry is, right now.How did Deace's attack on Mitt Romney in Iowa either (a) cause Barry to win the Democratic nomination or (b) win the election?
bump. I'd like to hear the answer to this.