Hey Mrs. G: I'll trade you neighbors.

[Monster]

Your nosey, possibly larcenous neighbor for my 7-year old, truck-driver mouth neighbor girl. This afternoon she called my kids "retards" and "fucking bitches" and said she was going to "kick [their] asses." Later she wrote a note to them with some other vulgarities and expletives, but I only found a few shreds of paper as evidence (couldn't really make anything out). LM3 told me the note was "really naughty". Nice.

Trade?

[hawkeyealum]

where the eff do you live?

[MikeyJoe]

Helicopter throw that little shit.

[xr4ticlone]

Your nosey, possibly larcenous neighbor for my 7-year old, truck-driver mouth neighbor girl. This afternoon she called my kids "retards" and "fucking bitches" and said she was going to "kick [their] asses." Later she wrote a note to them with some other vulgarities and expletives, but I only found a few shreds of paper as evidence (couldn't really make anything out). LM3 told me the note was "really naughty". Nice.

Trade?

I'll play devil's advocate here...maybe your kids need a good ass kicking?

[Mrs. G]

Okay, but I want to trade the ones that are right next door, the ones with the 'gifted' adult son who lives at home and will never, ever leave.

[Monster]

My kids are no angels, that's for sure. But we don't use language like that around them - Mrs. Monster RARELY swears at all - so I'm a bit perturbed that they're hearing this from a neighbor kid.

I actually feel sad for her. Its obvious that the adults in her life have very low skills.

[hawkeyealum]

pic of white trash neighbor lady?

[Mrs. G]

My kids are no angels, that's for sure. But we don't use language like that around them - Mrs. Monster RARELY swears at all - so I'm a bit perturbed that they're hearing this from a neighbor kid.

I actually feel sad for her. Its obvious that the adults in her life have very low skills.

Must be the schools. ;) We swear around Little G and she never swears (lectures us for bad words), but she goes to a good school.

[RecreationalGynecologist]

That is nothing. My 2 yr old has been calling everyone a "poop ass" and now has added "Gay Ass!" to his arsenal. How does a sweet 2 yr old turn into a potty mouth?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/epstud74/PeytonTempletonRye.jpg

[Monster]

That is nothing. My 2 yr old has been calling everyone a "poop ass" and now has added "Gay Ass!" to his arsenal. How does a sweet 2 yr old turn into a potty mouth?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/epstud74/PeytonTempletonRye.jpg

That's pretty disturbing.

[nolookpass]

get a dog. A real one.

[Monster]

get a dog. A real one.

I don't think mauling the poor girl to death is the answer here.

[RecreationalGynecologist]

I want an outdoor dog. An indoor dog really is not realistic right now. My now deceased beagle was a good dog, but he really tore shit up his first 2 yrs. I am looking at an acreage though

[nolookpass]

get a dog. A real one.

I don't think mauling the poor girl to death is the answer here.

then stay away from labs. They are the most frequent biter.

[RecreationalGynecologist]

Labs are frequent biters? I grew up around one.. Dumb as a rock but very, very friendly. Smelled rather bad though

[Monster]

Labs do bite more-because there's a shitload more of them. Like 100 labs for every killer Rott or PBull.

[RecreationalGynecologist]

I always thought I'd get a yellow or chocolate lab or something along those lines. My grandfather had a Dalmatian too..could be cranky at times

[nolookpass]

Dalmatians are very high strung. You want a strong confident, dog. A shepard or a rottie is your best et.

[RecreationalGynecologist]

I like German Shepherds. I find them to be friendly and they tend to get more of a bad rap than rottweilers. My neighbor in EP had a fat, old rottweiler named Annie. All she wanted to do was cuddle up to me when I went out to get the mail or sit in the garage.

[nolookpass]

I like German Shepherds. I find them to be friendly and they tend to get more of a bad rap than rottweilers. My neighbor in EP had a fat, old rottweiler named Annie. All she wanted to do was cuddle up to me when I went out to get the mail or sit in the garage.
Rotts are the worlds largest lap dogs.

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/Thread-Hijack/1/Hijack-Car.jpg

[RecreationalGynecologist]

German breeds take to me rather well. Who knows why? As for Pit Bulls, you'll usually see those with a younger group of owners. I'd rather have a Rottweiler or German Shepherd around my kids than a Pit Bull.

[RecreationalGynecologist]

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_mar2008/AfricanPitBull.htm

[MikeyJoe]

Labs do bite more-because there's a shitload more of them. Like 100 labs for every killer Rott or PBull.
Also, the "number of bites" is only a meaningful statistic if you don't particularly care whether you need a few stitches or a new face.

[Monster]

Ticking. Time. Bomb.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/rottweiler270507_468x396.jpg

[MikeyJoe]

I'd like a link to a study on labs being the most frequent biters.

[Glen]

As for your neighbor, Monster, I think we all know she is doomed unless we get her a shitload of government assistance. No one with parents that awful has ever amounted to anything.

[Monster]

As for your neighbor, Monster, I think we all know she is doomed unless we get her a shitload of government assistance. No one with parents that awful has ever amounted to anything.

Rather than govt assistance, what she really needs is someone to care about her. Mentor her. Let her know that someone cares. That's what she needs, Glen. That's what she needs.

[blacklespaul]

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/618/dscn0790g.jpg

[nolookpass]

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/618/dscn0790g.jpg

these is why cousins arent allowed to marry.

[Monster]

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/618/dscn0790g.jpg


There's just nothing behind those eyes.

[Glen]

As for your neighbor, Monster, I think we all know she is doomed unless we get her a shitload of government assistance. No one with parents that awful has ever amounted to anything.

Rather than govt assistance, what she really needs is someone to care about her. Mentor her. Let her know that someone cares. That's what she needs, Glen. That's what she needs.

Love thy neighbor, Monster. Be the one influence in the kid's life that makes a positive impact. You got it in you. Time to pay it forward...

[Monster]

As for your neighbor, Monster, I think we all know she is doomed unless we get her a shitload of government assistance. No one with parents that awful has ever amounted to anything.

Rather than govt assistance, what she really needs is someone to care about her. Mentor her. Let her know that someone cares. That's what she needs, Glen. That's what she needs.

Love thy neighbor, Monster. Be the one influence in the kid's life that makes a positive impact. You got it in you. Time to pay it forward...

Hey man, I'm off the clock after 5pm.

[bearbull24.5]

Your kids definitely need to make friends with this girl. She is obviously going to be a really cool and popular kid for years to come and will probably give it up at an early age. Now living next to you will make it a bit harder for her to throw out of control keggers while her parents are working the State Fair but I do believe you might be gullible enough to believe that the 20 cars parked on your lawn are all there for a study party.

[Jimmie Dimmick]

Ticking. Time. Bomb.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/rottweiler270507_468x396.jpg

who's a good boy? you're a good boy!

[LutherBlue89]

Labs do bite more-because there's a shitload more of them. Like 100 labs for every killer Rott or PBull.
Also, the "number of bites" is only a meaningful statistic if you don't particularly care whether you need a few stitches or a new face.We had a yellow lab on the farm growing up. Bit a guy right in the face, plastic surgery and the whole bit. Labs are ticking time bombs.

[Debit One]

That is nothing. My 2 yr old has been calling everyone a "poop ass" and now has added "Gay Ass!" to his arsenal. How does a sweet 2 yr old turn into a potty mouth?



Where is he hearing these things?

[Mo T]

That is nothing. My 2 yr old has been calling everyone a "poop ass" and now has added "Gay Ass!" to his arsenal. How does a sweet 2 yr old turn into a potty mouth?



Where is he hearing these things?

I was wondering the same. Someone isn't being a good parent.....

[Monster]

That is nothing. My 2 yr old has been calling everyone a "poop ass" and now has added "Gay Ass!" to his arsenal. How does a sweet 2 yr old turn into a potty mouth?



Where is he hearing these things?

I was wondering the same. Someone isn't being a good parent.....

The language combined with the hilarious pic of the little boy holding a bottle of Templeton Rye makes me sad for his future.

[MikeyJoe]

Labs do bite more-because there's a shitload more of them. Like 100 labs for every killer Rott or PBull.
Also, the "number of bites" is only a meaningful statistic if you don't particularly care whether you need a few stitches or a new face.We had a yellow lab on the farm growing up. Bit a guy right in the face, plastic surgery and the whole bit. Labs are ticking time bombs.
Your anecdotal example has completely outweighed every other piece of data I have ever read, and I am now convinced that pit bulls are not dangerous.

[SL]

I'm not shocked that a person that goes by RecreationalGynecologist would have a child that talks that way at an early age.

[LutherBlue89]

Also, the "number of bites" is only a meaningful statistic if you don't particularly care whether you need a few stitches or a new face.We had a yellow lab on the farm growing up. Bit a guy right in the face, plastic surgery and the whole bit. Labs are ticking time bombs.
Your anecdotal example has completely outweighed every other piece of data I have ever read, and I am now convinced that pit bulls are not dangerous.<insert photo of something going over Mikey's head>

I would be really interested in seeing the "data" you have read because my guess is it consists mostly of anecdotal examples just like mine. Pit bulls are dangerous animals. I wouldn't want the responsibility. But so are many other large breeds and some small breeds. Sadly pits have become the fad dog for that group of irresponsible people who feel the need to have an aggressive dog (a group that will always exist). Used to be rottweillers, before that it was dobermans and before that it was German shepherds. Someday it will be some other breed. Here is a Gladwell article that I think I've linked before.

http://www.gladwell.com/2006/2006_02_06_a_pitbull.html

[Monster]

We had a yellow lab on the farm growing up. Bit a guy right in the face, plastic surgery and the whole bit. Labs are ticking time bombs.
Your anecdotal example has completely outweighed every other piece of data I have ever read, and I am now convinced that pit bulls are not dangerous.<insert photo of something going over Mikey's head>

I would be really interested in seeing the "data" you have read because my guess is it consists mostly of anecdotal examples just like mine.


And you would be wrong.

[bearbull24.5]

Jesus christ people, if you are truly worried about dogs that bite just get a fucking golden retriever already.

[Jimmie Dimmick]

Jesus christ people, if you are truly worried about dogs that bite just get a fucking golden retriever already.

I once knew a guy that got his face gnawed off by a golden retriever........

[MikeyJoe]

We had a yellow lab on the farm growing up. Bit a guy right in the face, plastic surgery and the whole bit. Labs are ticking time bombs.
Your anecdotal example has completely outweighed every other piece of data I have ever read, and I am now convinced that pit bulls are not dangerous.<insert photo of something going over Mikey's head>

I would be really interested in seeing the "data" you have read because my guess is it consists mostly of anecdotal examples just like mine. Pit bulls are dangerous animals. I wouldn't want the responsibility. But so are many other large breeds and some small breeds. Sadly pits have become the fad dog for that group of irresponsible people who feel the need to have an aggressive dog (a group that will always exist). Used to be rottweillers, before that it was dobermans and before that it was German shepherds. Someday it will be some other breed. Here is a Gladwell article that I think I've linked before.

http://www.gladwell.com/2006/2006_02_06_a_pitbull.html
Uh, no, that didn't go over my head.

The problem with dog bite statistics is that there's been no real in depth breed specific study. The only "study" that I've ever seen analyzed media accounts of bites and showed pit bulls (and mixes) as the vast majority of fatal attacks and severe injuries. The problem with that is that it's self-supporting, as media accounts sensationalize. The CDC has looked at dog bites in abstract, but they didn't look at breed specifics.

So for example, here's a link that summarizes the study I've read before: http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-study-deaths-maimings.htm . It does support my point, but like I said, it's somewhat less than satisfying as the flaws of the study are limiting.

The main problem that pit bull apologists (and rottweiler, and doberman, etc) ignore is the factor of severity. Any dog can bite. I'm not trying to claim that a pit bull is inherently more likely to bite than a shih tzu. Almost all of the experts agree that a whole host of factors are more likely to be predictive of dog bites than breed - income level of the owner, the sex of the dog (males more likely to bite), previous socialization, etc. The problem is again severity. I would never leave my child alone with my parents little yippy dogs, because you never know if they could bite her. The thing is, if they do ever bite her, they're not going to kill her.

That's what my first somewhat joking post (about stitches vs. face replacement) was referencing. Yes, any dog can snap and attack a human. But if certain breeds do so, they possess far greater capacity to injure or kill. That's why it's absolutely ludicrous to try and pretend that they're no more dangerous than any other dog. Even if the gross number of bites supported that (which I've never found any data supporting), the capacity for damage should be the primary concern.

[nolookpass]

your child is more likely to die from a lightening strike than from a Rottweiler.

[Monster]

your child is more likely to die from a lightening strike than from a Rottweiler.

Thank God my neighbors don't allow lighning strikes to run loose in my neighborhood.

[nolookpass]

your child is more likely to die from a lightening strike than from a Rottweiler.

Thank God my neighbors don't allow lighning strikes to run loose in my neighborhood.
or hairlips.

[Monster]

your child is more likely to die from a lightening strike than from a Rottweiler.

Thank God my neighbors don't allow lighning strikes to run loose in my neighborhood.
or hairlips.


:rollfloor:

Ok, that was effing funny.

[Debit One]

your child is more likely to die from a lightening strike than from a Rottweiler.

My child is also more likely to die from a lightning strike than from a machine gun strafing, but I don't want my neighbor to have a 60 cal gun on his porch.

[Glen]

your child is more likely to die from a lightening strike than from a Rottweiler.

Thank God my neighbors don't allow lighning strikes to run loose in my neighborhood.

Watch out for this guy!

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_vids/Peter_griffin_shock_suit.htm

[nolookpass]

your child is more likely to die from a lightening strike than from a Rottweiler.

My child is also more likely to die from a lightning strike than from a machine gun strafing, but I don't want my neighbor to have a 60 cal gun on his porch.

your child is more likely to die from electrocution in a hot tub..

[lbchawkeye]

your child is more likely to die from a lightening strike than from a Rottweiler.
If it's one or the other, I'd take the lightning.

[Monster]

your child is more likely to die from a lightening strike than from a Rottweiler.

Thank God my neighbors don't allow lighning strikes to run loose in my neighborhood.

Watch out for this guy!

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_vids/Peter_griffin_shock_suit.htm

Great. Just great. Add that to the list.

[LutherBlue89]

That's what my first somewhat joking post (about stitches vs. face replacement) was referencing. Yes, any dog can snap and attack a human. But if certain breeds do so, they possess far greater capacity to injure or kill. That's why it's absolutely ludicrous to try and pretend that they're no more dangerous than any other dog. Even if the gross number of bites supported that (which I've never found any data supporting), the capacity for damage should be the primary concern.I don't disagree with anything you said. Any large breed can do a lot of damage but people are repulsed by only a few breeds and I think the negative opinions about those breeds are mostly uninformed. As you note, the statistics don't tell you much -- it appears there is a lot of blame to be shared in almost every serious dog bite case.

[MikeyJoe]

your child is more likely to die from a lightening strike than from a Rottweiler.
I wouldn't let my kid run around outside during a thunderstorm either.

[MikeyJoe]

Also, what's with the sudden embracing of statistics? Wasn't this the same board that wanted open season on mountain lions because the approximately one person per year in the US and Canada they kill is one too many?

[nolookpass]

Robust and powerful, the Rottweiler is happiest when given a job to perform. His intelligence, endurance and willingness to work make him suitable as a police dog, herder, service dog, therapy dog, obedience competitor and devoted companion. An inherent protector, the Rottweiler is self-confident and responds quietly and with a wait-and-see attitude to influences in his enviroment.

http://www.akc.org/breeds/rottweiler/index.cfm

[CUIHAWk]

Can't you say that all the dogs mentioned are capable of doing some serious damage? I'm sure a golden could mess you up as much as any other dog, but it doesn't happen as often. The typical golden owner is different than the typical Rottweiler owner. Some issues revolve around the breed, where others revolve around the owners. One must remember as well that no dog, regardless of breed or owner responsibility, can be labeled as "bite free." Just some thoughts.