View Full Version : Debunking the Reagan Myth
mobyditch
05-09-2010, 12:17 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/21/opinion/21krugman.html
This is always a good post..
Klink
05-09-2010, 12:20 PM
Paul Krugman is an ass
RecreationalGynecologist
05-09-2010, 01:53 PM
Liberals and Democrats hate Reagan because he made their policies and ideals seem quite irrelevant and silly for quite some time
ChipHilton
05-09-2010, 02:28 PM
Wrong thread
mobyditch
05-09-2010, 09:24 PM
Liberals and Democrats hate Reagan because he made their policies and ideals seem quite irrelevant and silly for quite some time
Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/060309.html
Today's economy is a direct result of the failures of the Reagan revolution.
MickerHawk
05-09-2010, 09:46 PM
Liberals and Democrats hate Reagan because he made their policies and ideals seem quite irrelevant and silly for quite some time
Ronald Reagan: Worst President Ever?
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/060309.html
Today's economy is a direct result of the failures of the Reagan revolution.
Wow. That man is a supreme dunce or a useful fool, one of the two.
After defeating Ford in 1976, Carter injected more respect for human rights into U.S. foreign policy, a move some scholars believe put an important nail in the coffin of the Soviet Union, leaving it hard-pressed to justify the repressive internal practices of the East Bloc. Carter also emphasized the need to contain the spread of nuclear weapons, especially in unstable countries like Pakistan.
Domestically, Carter pushed a comprehensive energy policy and warned Americans that their growing dependence on foreign oil represented a national security threat, what he famously called “the moral equivalent of war.”
Carter brought us lines 50 cars deep for gas and rationing, plus a price per gallon that wasn't met (inflation adjusted) until a few years ago.
Reagan removed the price controls over the screaming of Carter and Ted Kennedy that doing so would double the price. Instead, of course, it dropped the price by half.
And, to give Carter credit for setting up the collapse of the Soviet Union is to completely ignore that Carter stated they would never collapse, and certainly not by Reagan's strategy of calling the USSR's bluff on SDI. Instead, of course, Reagan was vindicated and Carter was proven to be a fool.
Gushawk
05-09-2010, 10:28 PM
Were there still gas lines when Reagan took office? I was like 5...and was rooting for him because I thought his name sounded cool.
MickerHawk
05-09-2010, 10:41 PM
Were there still gas lines when Reagan took office? I was like 5...and was rooting for him because I thought his name sounded cool.
I don't know for sure if there were still lines for gas in 1981 (I was 11), but there was still a massive problem with oil prices/supplies.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Opecrev.gif (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Opecrev.gif)
Part of the change I'm sure was our alliance with Saudi Arabia, part of it was eradicating the idiotic price controls which only helped OPEC and hurt buyers, and part of it I'm sure was Iraq's blows to Iran which forced them to produce oil to fund their war. That said, Iran wouldn't have become an opponent of ours in oil production if the Shah hadn't been cut off at the knees by Carter.
It also helped that we steadily built the strategic reserve over the period of '80 to '90.
mobyditch
05-09-2010, 11:19 PM
Its amazing how more and more people believe that our dependence upon foreign oil is a threat to our great nation. President Carter was way ahead of his time for sure..
The Demonization of “Big Government” and the Myth of the Greatness of Ronald Reagan
I begin this post with a summary statement that puts the Ronald Reagan presidency in proper perspective because it was Ronald Reagan who most successfully perpetrated the toxic myth – that still plagues our country today – that “big government” is inherently bad.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/554
Another great read about the myth that is Ronnie Raygun.
MickerHawk
05-09-2010, 11:33 PM
Its amazing how more and more people believe that our dependence upon foreign oil is a threat to our great nation.
That's not amazing.
What is amazing is how many people recognize the above, yet the left is still stridently opposing all domestic entities from new oil exploration in the Western hemisphere while foreign nations do nothing but expand drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and all around us.
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