Obama to select Kagan as SC nominee

[PipeDaddy]

President Obama will nominate Solicitor General Elena Kagan as the nation’s 112th justice, choosing his own chief advocate before the Supreme Court to join it in ruling on cases critical to his view of the country’s future, Democrats close to the White House said Sunday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/10/us/politics/10court.html?hp

Well, it makes sense that Obama, a man who was underqualified at best to be president, would choose a SC nominee who has no judicial experience.

[Lime]

I don't necessarily think having a non-judge as a justice is a bad thing. While you don't have the record to evaluate, the lack of time as a judge doesn't prevent one from having the legal knowledge, mental ability, etc. I think that the continued skewing of the court to East Coast/Ivy league types is a bigger concern. This will be four that grew up in NYC.

[Rolo Tomassi]

Doesn't this mean that all nine justices will be either Harvard or Yale grads? Interesting. Apparently East Coast elitism is alive and well in the beltway mentality.

[mobyditch]

President Obama will nominate Solicitor General Elena Kagan as the nation’s 112th justice, choosing his own chief advocate before the Supreme Court to join it in ruling on cases critical to his view of the country’s future, Democrats close to the White House said Sunday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/10/us/politics/10court.html?hp

Well, it makes sense that Obama, a man who was underqualified at best to be president, would choose a SC nominee who has no judicial experience.

Many a man have sat on the SC without prior judicial experience so what's your beef really about?

[Rolo Tomassi]

I hope Kagan's refusal to allow military recruiters access to Harvard Law School draws scrutiny. This action not only reveals a mindset rooted in the radical 60s, but also an outlook at odds with the best interests and defense of her own country.

[Corporate Raider]

I don't necessarily think having a non-judge as a justice is a bad thing. While you don't have the record to evaluate, the lack of time as a judge doesn't prevent one from having the legal knowledge, mental ability, etc. I think that the continued skewing of the court to East Coast/Ivy league types is a bigger concern. This will be four that grew up in NYC.

I will give you credit for being consistent.

[MikeyJoe]

Without oversimplifying, isn't this basically Harriet Miers redux?

[boneshawk]

She's hot.

[RobertIngersoll]

Without oversimplifying, isn't this basically Harriet Miers redux?

I believet the biggest criticisms against Miers was her close relationship with Bush (giving the appearnce that it was basically of a reward for loyalty) and a perception that she was an intellectual lightweight. I don't believe either of those parallel Kagan -- I think the lack of courtroom experience is the only common denominator at this point.

But I haven't followed this closely.

[nolookpass]

Without oversimplifying, isn't this basically Harriet Miers redux?

I believet the biggest criticisms against Miers was her close relationship with Bush (giving the appearnce that it was basically of a reward for loyalty) and a perception that she was an intellectual lightweight. I don't believe either of those parallel Kagan -- I think the lack of courtroom experience is the only common denominator at this point.

But I haven't followed this closely.

lol. of course they dont parallel Kagan. seriously, whens the last time you were critical of anything Obama or any liberal did?

[Aloha Mr. Hand]

I think her Solicitor General experience in front of the bench more than makes up for any lack of time on it.

[DoeyHawk]

President Obama will nominate Solicitor General Elena Kagan as the nation’s 112th justice, choosing his own chief advocate before the Supreme Court to join it in ruling on cases critical to his view of the country’s future, Democrats close to the White House said Sunday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/10/us/politics/10court.html?hp

Well, it makes sense that Obama, a man who was underqualified at best to be president, would choose a SC nominee who has no judicial experience.

The left is much more concerned about philosphy than they are experience and past perfomance. It still blows my mind that the *American people could even consider electing a man president who had zero executive experience. Hell, I don't think Obama was ever responsible for a modest budget.

*Check that, I'm not surprised as these folks don't give a shit about anything other than cashing the free checks.

[MikeyJoe]

Without oversimplifying, isn't this basically Harriet Miers redux?

I believet the biggest criticisms against Miers was her close relationship with Bush (giving the appearnce that it was basically of a reward for loyalty) and a perception that she was an intellectual lightweight. I don't believe either of those parallel Kagan -- I think the lack of courtroom experience is the only common denominator at this point.

But I haven't followed this closely.
I gather that she has more relevant experience than Miers, as she has argued cases before the court.

I was referring specifically to the aspect of nominating an individual who was previously representing the President's interests.

[DoeyHawk]

She's hot.

Just caught a pic of this lady. That's a man baby!

[xr4ticlone]

I'm sure she's politically left of Stalin...so what more can we ask for from the Communist in Chief?

Her favorite activities?

Reading Marx, cruising gay bars, abortion rallies, flag burning, and of course reinterpretation of the US Constitution with friends aver a few glasses of wine.

[RobertIngersoll]

"She's hot" -- Janet Reno

fixed

[BuffettHawk]

"She's hot" -- Janet Reno

fixed


Is she officially out of the closet?

NTTAWWT... well, except for upholding sodomy marriage. ;)

[newsbreaker]

IMHO, one of the more interesting aspects of this nomination (if true) is her age. This is yet another extremely young (potential) SCOTUS justice.

[xr4ticlone]

Yea...where are all these hot leftists chicks we always hear about?

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

Someone went wild with the ugly stick on this bitch.

[BuffettHawk]

IMHO, one of the more interesting aspects of this nomination (if true) is her age. This is yet another extremely young (potential) SCOTUS justice.


I saw that from her Wiki profile. She just turned 50 a few weeks ago. We're getting to the point where in the next 5-10 years the Court will not need a replacement nominee for the next 15 years after that.

What's even more crazy, Obama may have three Supreme Court nominees within his first four years in office. Ginsberg has been ill on and off over the last five years, and I wouldn't be suprised if she threw in the towel before 2012. Of course, this has nothing to do with politics. It's just pure coincidence.

[LutherBlue89]

Without oversimplifying, isn't this basically Harriet Miers redux?

I believet the biggest criticisms against Miers was her close relationship with Bush (giving the appearnce that it was basically of a reward for loyalty) and a perception that she was an intellectual lightweight. I don't believe either of those parallel Kagan -- I think the lack of courtroom experience is the only common denominator at this point.

But I haven't followed this closely.
I gather that she has more relevant experience than Miers, as she has argued cases before the court.

I was referring specifically to the aspect of nominating an individual who was previously representing the President's interests.Harriet Miers might be a fine lawyer, but Kagan has a far more impressive resume. I'm no fan of Kagan and don't like her ideology, but I think her resume's adequate.

[JohnnyBootstrapsUSA#1fan]

This could have been alot worse.

[DoeyHawk]

Yea...where are all these hot leftists chicks we always hear about?

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

Someone went wild with the ugly stick on this bitch.

In case you were curious as to what the love child of Corky Thatcher and Rachel Maddow might look like.

[HFBM]

President Obama will nominate Solicitor General Elena Kagan as the nation’s 112th justice, choosing his own chief advocate before the Supreme Court to join it in ruling on cases critical to his view of the country’s future, Democrats close to the White House said Sunday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/10/us/politics/10court.html?hp

Well, it makes sense that Obama, a man who was underqualified at best to be president, would choose a SC nominee who has no judicial experience.

my law prof said about 50% of the judges who have served on the supremes have had zero judge experience, historically. at least i thought she said 50%, but i do know the percentage was high (we had that conversation about 2 mos. ago). regardless, i guess i don't see why you would want only judges to serve. i don't know anything about kagan, but it would seem that you should have bigger issues with her rather than whether she was a judge or not.

someone above is right, unless you are an east coaster from harvard or yale you stand almost no chance of getting on. too bad, really.

[Rolo Tomassi]

Does the Biblical admonition about "casting pearls before swine" come to mind when looking at Kagan and her necklace?

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

[Mr. Hawk]

This could have been alot worse.
+1

[lilzaphod]

I know nothing about her. But I'm betting she isn't that far left.

Rolo isn't completely out of his mind. X4RTI hasn't threatened to kill anyone, or spouted off unintelligible for more than three paragraphs, and Crazed doesn't have a 3 pager on her (yet - probably still receiving his talking points).

She's probably a 1970s moderate.

[xr4ticlone]

I know nothing about her. But I'm betting she isn't that far left.

Rolo isn't completely out of his mind. X4RTI hasn't threatened to kill anyone, or spouted off unintelligible for more than three paragraphs, and Crazed doesn't have a 3 pager on her (yet - probably still receiving his talking points).

She's probably a 1970s moderate.

I'm not sure that I've ever threatened to kill anyone on here.

PS...not to make anyone nervous, but it looks like we'll be moving back to Iowa this summer. : )

PSS...Zaph...I feel like you believe there is a rivalry between us to see who is the most angry poster on this site. I just want you to know that I don't feel that way...and the title is all yours. : )

[valp0guy]

At least we know where she stands on kids and gingerbread houses.

[lilzaphod]

I know nothing about her. But I'm betting she isn't that far left.

Rolo isn't completely out of his mind. X4RTI hasn't threatened to kill anyone, or spouted off unintelligible for more than three paragraphs, and Crazed doesn't have a 3 pager on her (yet - probably still receiving his talking points).

She's probably a 1970s moderate.

I'm not sure that I've ever threatened to kill anyone on here.

PS...not to make anyone nervous, but it looks like we'll be moving back to Iowa this summer. : )

PSS...Zaph...I feel like you believe there is a rivalry between us to see who is the most angry poster on this site. I just want you to know that I don't feel that way...and the title is all yours. : )

I'm not angry. I'm misunderstood.

The little boys and girls here have been molly coddled by their parents too much; and sharp words are scary to those who only have been held with kid gloves and satin sheets.

[ISUFan98]

I believet the biggest criticisms against Miers was her close relationship with Bush (giving the appearnce that it was basically of a reward for loyalty) and a perception that she was an intellectual lightweight. I don't believe either of those parallel Kagan -- I think the lack of courtroom experience is the only common denominator at this point.

But I haven't followed this closely.
I gather that she has more relevant experience than Miers, as she has argued cases before the court.

I was referring specifically to the aspect of nominating an individual who was previously representing the President's interests.Harriet Miers might be a fine lawyer, but Kagan has a far more impressive resume. I'm no fan of Kagan and don't like her ideology, but I think her resume's adequate.

Solicitor General of the United States > White House Chief Counsel

[ISUFan98]

Does the Biblical admonition about "casting pearls before swine" come to mind when looking at Kagan and her necklace?

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

Can we do a little better than "she's ugly" as a means determining her credibility?

Come on, guys.

[LutherBlue89]

I'm not angry. I'm misunderstood.

The little boys and girls here have been molly coddled by their parents too much; and sharp words are scary to those who only have been held with kid gloves and satin sheets."Molly coddled" is going into my rotation, love it. I'll drop the approrpiate footnotes.

[SL]

Does the Biblical admonition about "casting pearls before swine" come to mind when looking at Kagan and her necklace?

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

She looks like the iDump4u.com guy.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/y78VQ0SoPeE/0.jpg

[boneshawk]

Does the Biblical admonition about "casting pearls before swine" come to mind when looking at Kagan and her necklace?

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/rat_race/jon_lovitz/ratpre.jpg

[DoeyHawk]

Does the Biblical admonition about "casting pearls before swine" come to mind when looking at Kagan and her necklace?

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

Can we do a little better than "she's ugly" as a means determining her credibility?

Come on, guys.

This woman is so strikingly ugly that it warrants a mention. I don't think any of us are linking her credibility to lack of attractiveness.

[The Tin Man]

Steve Deace approves of this nomination.

[TallGrass]

Does the Biblical admonition about "casting pearls before swine" come to mind when looking at Kagan and her necklace?

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/rat_race/jon_lovitz/ratpre.jpg
:rotf::rotf:

[BBK]

I hope Kagan's refusal to allow military recruiters access to Harvard Law School draws scrutiny. This action not only reveals a mindset rooted in the radical 60s, but also an outlook at odds with the best interests and defense of her own country.

This should be under heavy scrutiny. Her reasoning was that the military was discriminating due to its "don't ask, don't tell" policy. What a load of horse shit.

Having been in the Army Infantry, I can tell you don't ask, don't tell is essential. I will be absolutely furious if they repeal this, and/or allow this obvious dyke to serve on the Supreme Court.

[newsbreaker]

It's interesting that when she was approved as Solicitor General one of the areas of major concern was that, to that point, she had literally never appeared before any court. Now she certainly has - including 9 appearances before the SCOTUS - but she is almost exclusively an "academic" rather than a legal practitioner of any kind.

[lilzaphod]

I hope Kagan's refusal to allow military recruiters access to Harvard Law School draws scrutiny. This action not only reveals a mindset rooted in the radical 60s, but also an outlook at odds with the best interests and defense of her own country.

This should be under heavy scrutiny. Her reasoning was that the military was discriminating due to its "don't ask, don't tell" policy. What a load of horse shit.

Having been in the Army Infantry, I can tell you don't ask, don't tell is essential. I will be absolutely furious if they repeal this, and/or allow this obvious dyke to serve on the Supreme Court.

Having been deployed in a war zone and forward deployed, I can tell you that anyone who thinks "Don't ask don't tell" is essential is just covering for their base homophobia. It's time to grow up and act like a professional.

Hell, we had co-ed tents in our unit. We just segregated the cots with tarp and we functioned fine.

[BBK]

I hope Kagan's refusal to allow military recruiters access to Harvard Law School draws scrutiny. This action not only reveals a mindset rooted in the radical 60s, but also an outlook at odds with the best interests and defense of her own country.

This should be under heavy scrutiny. Her reasoning was that the military was discriminating due to its "don't ask, don't tell" policy. What a load of horse shit.

Having been in the Army Infantry, I can tell you don't ask, don't tell is essential. I will be absolutely furious if they repeal this, and/or allow this obvious dyke to serve on the Supreme Court.

Having been deployed in a war zone and forward deployed, I can tell you that anyone who thinks "Don't ask don't tell" is essential is just covering for their base homophobia. It's time to grow up and act like a professional.

That's bullshit. The reason I support it is because it completely removes sexuality from combat. It protects the soldier from getting their asses beat, and it protects other soldiers from having the knowledge that they are showering next to a full blown faggot.

[Slyhawk]

That's bullshit. The reason I support it is because it completely removes sexuality from combat. It protects the soldier from getting their asses beat, and it protects other soldiers from having the knowledge that they are showering next to a full blown faggot.

I bet a few of them guessed the truth about you anyway.

[BBK]

That's bullshit. The reason I support it is because it completely removes sexuality from combat. It protects the soldier from getting their asses beat, and it protects other soldiers from having the knowledge that they are showering next to a full blown faggot.

I bet a few of them guessed the truth about you anyway.

Even though I am the butt of this joke, that is solid work.

[atemp]

Does the Biblical admonition about "casting pearls before swine" come to mind when looking at Kagan and her necklace?

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

Can we do a little better than "she's ugly" as a means determining her credibility?

Come on, guys.

This woman is so strikingly ugly that it warrants a mention. I don't think any of us are linking her credibility to lack of attractiveness.

...this is the trap the Obama Administration has set. When it comes out that she is left wing on almost all the issues....the PC card of "Republicans hate gays" is going to be played.

[cjhawks]

Separated at birth?

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:yaPDZZuOLTa9fM:http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2004/01.22/photos/14-hlsskating3-225.jpg

and

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:1LvksKIqdM_n7M:http://namegame.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/nathanlane.jpg

Don't know why, but when I saw her picture, Nathan Lane was the first thing that came to mind.

[BBK]

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2010/04/15/PH2010041505666.jpg

[brantshawks]

She looks like a character Mike Myers has played.

[BBK]

Maybe she was nominated so that she can end her long distance relationship with Napolitano.

[ISUFan98]

Can we do a little better than "she's ugly" as a means determining her credibility?

Come on, guys.

This woman is so strikingly ugly that it warrants a mention. I don't think any of us are linking her credibility to lack of attractiveness.

...this is the trap the Obama Administration has set. When it comes out that she is left wing on almost all the issues....the PC card of "Republicans hate gays" is going to be played.

I don't think the GOP is looking for a fight here.

[RobertIngersoll]

This woman is so strikingly ugly that it warrants a mention. I don't think any of us are linking her credibility to lack of attractiveness.

...this is the trap the Obama Administration has set. When it comes out that she is left wing on almost all the issues....the PC card of "Republicans hate gays" is going to be played.

I don't think the GOP is looking for a fight here.

I think we have to wait until Rush weighs in today to see which direction this will take...

[PipeDaddy]

"She's hot" -- Janet Reno

fixed

:rotf:

[The Tin Man]

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

http://www.nick.co.uk/shows/kca/img/kevin_james.jpg

[PipeDaddy]

BTW, I don't necessarily think not having judicial experience is a bad thing. I was throwing out a provocative parallel.

The Harriet Meyers (however you spell it) was a diaster because of her closeness to Bush.

[valp0guy]

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/187980686_f95619cc5b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/187980686_f95619cc5b.jpg

[MikeyJoe]

BTW, I don't necessarily think not having judicial experience is a bad thing. I was throwing out a provocative parallel.

The Harriet Meyers (however you spell it) was a diaster because of her closeness to Bush.
That's what I was thinking (I believe it's Miers). I forget exactly what Miers's role in the administration was, but this struck me as similar in that regard - the President nominating his counsel to the Court.

[ISUFan98]

BTW, I don't necessarily think not having judicial experience is a bad thing. I was throwing out a provocative parallel.

The Harriet Meyers (however you spell it) was a diaster because of her closeness to Bush.
That's what I was thinking (I believe it's Miers). I forget exactly what Miers's role in the administration was, but this struck me as similar in that regard - the President nominating his counsel to the Court.

Not that similar. Miers was White House Chief Counsel, and Kagan was SG of the United States.

The former is hired at the discretion of the President, and the latter requires confirmation by the Senate.

[Lime]

BTW, I don't necessarily think not having judicial experience is a bad thing. I was throwing out a provocative parallel.

The Harriet Meyers (however you spell it) was a diaster because of her closeness to Bush.
That's what I was thinking (I believe it's Miers). I forget exactly what Miers's role in the administration was, but this struck me as similar in that regard - the President nominating his counsel to the Court.

Not that similar. Miers was White House Chief Counsel, and Kagan was SG of the United States.

The former is hired at the discretion of the President, and the latter requires confirmation by the Senate.

Miers was also a long-time personal friend of Bush (had known him for ~15 years) and had been his personal attorney before he was elected president.

[MikeyJoe]

Not that similar. Miers was White House Chief Counsel, and Kagan was SG of the United States.

The former is hired at the discretion of the President, and the latter requires confirmation by the Senate.
Thank you. I couldn't remember Miers's role, but now that you point it out that appears to be at least a somewhat meaningful distinction.

[Lime]

It's interesting that when she was approved as Solicitor General one of the areas of major concern was that, to that point, she had literally never appeared before any court. Now she certainly has - including 9 appearances before the SCOTUS - but she is almost exclusively an "academic" rather than a legal practitioner of any kind.

I think that she meets the resume qualifications (if at the lower end of the standard whereas a guy like Roberts was at the high end of the standard). The battle (if any) will probably center more on her opinions (such as the Harvard military deal).

Strictly speaking, she actually probably moves the court a little to the right. Lots of the lib bloggers aren't happy, and there's no way in hell she's more liberal than John Paul Stevens.

[danish_hawkeye]

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

http://www.nick.co.uk/shows/kca/img/kevin_james.jpg

I thought Monsta was supposed to look like Kevin James???

[ISUFan98]

It's interesting that when she was approved as Solicitor General one of the areas of major concern was that, to that point, she had literally never appeared before any court. Now she certainly has - including 9 appearances before the SCOTUS - but she is almost exclusively an "academic" rather than a legal practitioner of any kind.

I think that she meets the resume qualifications (if at the lower end of the standard whereas a guy like Roberts was at the high end of the standard). The battle (if any) will probably center more on her opinions (such as the Harvard military deal).

Strictly speaking, she actually probably moves the court a little to the right. Lots of the lib bloggers aren't happy, and there's no way in hell she's more liberal than John Paul Stevens.

Which is why I think she will sail through confirmation. A couple of hiccups, as Sotomayor had, but she'll easily get 70 votes.

[PipeDaddy]

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

http://www.nick.co.uk/shows/kca/img/kevin_james.jpg

Wow.

[ISUFan98]

It is uncanny.

[TallGrass]

That's bullshit. The reason I support it is because it completely removes sexuality from combat. It protects the soldier from getting their asses beat, and it protects other soldiers from having the knowledge that they are showering next to a full blown faggot.
Yes, because if there's one thing we're all aware of...all faggots are just waiting for the chance to jump you and shove their big, faggoty, penis in your ass. They just can't help themselves, they're less than human.

[BBK]

That's bullshit. The reason I support it is because it completely removes sexuality from combat. It protects the soldier from getting their asses beat, and it protects other soldiers from having the knowledge that they are showering next to a full blown faggot.
Yes, because if there's one thing we're all aware of...all faggots are just waiting for the chance to jump you and shove their big, faggoty, penis in your ass. They just can't help themselves, they're less than human.

I agree. Thanks for stating my point more clearly.

[Rolo Tomassi]

This should be under heavy scrutiny. Her reasoning was that the military was discriminating due to its "don't ask, don't tell" policy. What a load of horse shit.

Having been in the Army Infantry, I can tell you don't ask, don't tell is essential. I will be absolutely furious if they repeal this, and/or allow this obvious dyke to serve on the Supreme Court.

Having been deployed in a war zone and forward deployed, I can tell you that anyone who thinks "Don't ask don't tell" is essential is just covering for their base homophobia. It's time to grow up and act like a professional.

That's bullshit. The reason I support it is because it completely removes sexuality from combat. It protects the soldier from getting their asses beat, and it protects other soldiers from having the knowledge that they are showering next to a full blown faggot.


Careful BbK, 'cause Zaph is very sensitive about having served in the military during the Gulf War.

[newsbreaker]

It's interesting that when she was approved as Solicitor General one of the areas of major concern was that, to that point, she had literally never appeared before any court. Now she certainly has - including 9 appearances before the SCOTUS - but she is almost exclusively an "academic" rather than a legal practitioner of any kind.

I think that she meets the resume qualifications (if at the lower end of the standard whereas a guy like Roberts was at the high end of the standard). The battle (if any) will probably center more on her opinions (such as the Harvard military deal).

Strictly speaking, she actually probably moves the court a little to the right. Lots of the lib bloggers aren't happy, and there's no way in hell she's more liberal than John Paul Stevens.

Which is why I think she will sail through confirmation. A couple of hiccups, as Sotomayor had, but she'll easily get 70 votes.

I agree with both of you (though I don't know enough about her to give a left/right distinction). Barring something unforeseen occurring, she will get confirmation.

[lilzaphod]

This should be under heavy scrutiny. Her reasoning was that the military was discriminating due to its "don't ask, don't tell" policy. What a load of horse shit.

Having been in the Army Infantry, I can tell you don't ask, don't tell is essential. I will be absolutely furious if they repeal this, and/or allow this obvious dyke to serve on the Supreme Court.

Having been deployed in a war zone and forward deployed, I can tell you that anyone who thinks "Don't ask don't tell" is essential is just covering for their base homophobia. It's time to grow up and act like a professional.

That's bullshit. The reason I support it is because it completely removes sexuality from combat. It protects the soldier from getting their asses beat, and it protects other soldiers from having the knowledge that they are showering next to a full blown faggot.

You either got in before my edit, or did some selective editing on your own.

The women living in our tents for months were not raped or "sexualized" in the manner you speak. Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of "full blown fagots"? That this attitude on display is somehow "acceptable" what is bullshit.

Either way, I stand by the "It's time to grow up and act like a professional" statement.

[lilzaphod]

Having been deployed in a war zone and forward deployed, I can tell you that anyone who thinks "Don't ask don't tell" is essential is just covering for their base homophobia. It's time to grow up and act like a professional.

That's bullshit. The reason I support it is because it completely removes sexuality from combat. It protects the soldier from getting their asses beat, and it protects other soldiers from having the knowledge that they are showering next to a full blown faggot.


Careful BbK, 'cause Zaph is very sensitive about having served in the military during the Gulf War.

No, what I'm sensitive about is when you try to play your "liberalz jus don' ge de defense dept orz understandedses the militaries" routine on me because your crotchety old ass forgot that I was a vet.

Face it, you got your ass handed to you by your 'team' here in that thread when you last pulled this stunt. And now every subsequent post where this comes up, you are going to pull and play this to make more out of what it was. Because that's what you do.

I'm just glad I don't have to worry about others not seeing through your horseshit. You're a sad statement on "team before country", Rolo. And whats worse is that you've become a sad and twisted caricature of your old self.

I'm pretty much done defending you around here anymore. You deserve the shit bed you've sown for yourself.

[BBK]

Having been deployed in a war zone and forward deployed, I can tell you that anyone who thinks "Don't ask don't tell" is essential is just covering for their base homophobia. It's time to grow up and act like a professional.

That's bullshit. The reason I support it is because it completely removes sexuality from combat. It protects the soldier from getting their asses beat, and it protects other soldiers from having the knowledge that they are showering next to a full blown faggot.

You either got in before my edit, or did some selective editing on your own.

The women living in our tents for months were not raped or "sexualized" in the manner you speak. Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of "full blown fagots"? That this attitude on display is somehow "acceptable" what is bullshit.

Either way, I stand by the "It's time to grow up and act like a professional" statement.


"Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of 'full blown faggots?'"

I think you are way out of line here, stud. Did I ever say anything about infantry guys getting worked over by a couple of homos? It wouldn't happen anyway. Also, your insinuation that infantry guys are pussies is FUCKING RIDICULOUS.

I don't know what candy-ass military job or unit you were part of, but I never had the pleasure of working or sleeping in a tent next to women because I had a real fucking military job. Whatever service job you worked in served at the pleasure of the infantry and other combat arms specialities (Armor and Artillery, to name a few), and don't you fucking forget that. We are what matters in the military, not food servers or fucking admin specialists.

The objective in combat should be to kill and neutralize the enemy. All this other garbage, like homos in the military, distracts from the objective. There is a similar reason why women do not serve in combat arms specialties. They are a distraction, as well. With women around, soldiers start to worry more about getting their dick wet than accomplishing the mission.

I'm against anything that distracts from the overall mission of the military. If a couple of faggots feelings get hurt in the process, then so be it.

[ISUFan98]

Uh oh.

[SL]

"Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of 'full blown faggots?'"

I think you are way out of line here, stud. Did I ever say anything about infantry guys getting worked over by a couple of homos? It wouldn't happen anyway. Also, your insinuation that infantry guys are pussies is FUCKING RIDICULOUS.

I don't know what candy-ass military job or unit you were part of, but I never had the pleasure of working or sleeping in a tent next to women because I had a real fucking military job. Whatever service job you worked in served at the pleasure of the infantry and other combat arms specialities (Armor and Artillery, to name a few), and don't you fucking forget that. We are what matters in the military, not food servers or fucking admin specialists.

The objective in combat should be to kill and neutralize the enemy. All this other garbage, like homos in the military, distracts from the objective. There is a similar reason why women do not serve in combat arms specialties. They are a distraction, as well. With women around, soldiers start to worry more about getting their dick wet than accomplishing the mission.

I'm against anything that distracts from the overall mission of the military. If a couple of faggots feelings get hurt in the process, then so be it.

1. As to the bolded portion: Yes, it has.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Winchell

2. As to the underlined portion:

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs165.snc3/19238_272083888557_44053938557_3459700_5400639_n.j pg

This woman seems to do a fine job.

[BBK]

"Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of 'full blown faggots?'"

I think you are way out of line here, stud. Did I ever say anything about infantry guys getting worked over by a couple of homos? It wouldn't happen anyway. Also, your insinuation that infantry guys are pussies is FUCKING RIDICULOUS.

I don't know what candy-ass military job or unit you were part of, but I never had the pleasure of working or sleeping in a tent next to women because I had a real fucking military job. Whatever service job you worked in served at the pleasure of the infantry and other combat arms specialities (Armor and Artillery, to name a few), and don't you fucking forget that. We are what matters in the military, not food servers or fucking admin specialists.

The objective in combat should be to kill and neutralize the enemy. All this other garbage, like homos in the military, distracts from the objective. There is a similar reason why women do not serve in combat arms specialties. They are a distraction, as well. With women around, soldiers start to worry more about getting their dick wet than accomplishing the mission.

I'm against anything that distracts from the overall mission of the military. If a couple of faggots feelings get hurt in the process, then so be it.

1. As to the bolded portion: Yes, it has.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Winchell

2. As to the underlined portion:

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs165.snc3/19238_272083888557_44053938557_3459700_5400639_n.j pg

This woman seems to do a fine job.

How do you know she is doing a good job, from the picture?

[SL]

"Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of 'full blown faggots?'"

I think you are way out of line here, stud. Did I ever say anything about infantry guys getting worked over by a couple of homos? It wouldn't happen anyway. Also, your insinuation that infantry guys are pussies is FUCKING RIDICULOUS.

I don't know what candy-ass military job or unit you were part of, but I never had the pleasure of working or sleeping in a tent next to women because I had a real fucking military job. Whatever service job you worked in served at the pleasure of the infantry and other combat arms specialities (Armor and Artillery, to name a few), and don't you fucking forget that. We are what matters in the military, not food servers or fucking admin specialists.

The objective in combat should be to kill and neutralize the enemy. All this other garbage, like homos in the military, distracts from the objective. There is a similar reason why women do not serve in combat arms specialties. They are a distraction, as well. With women around, soldiers start to worry more about getting their dick wet than accomplishing the mission.

I'm against anything that distracts from the overall mission of the military. If a couple of faggots feelings get hurt in the process, then so be it.

1. As to the bolded portion: Yes, it has.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Winchell

2. As to the underlined portion:

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs165.snc3/19238_272083888557_44053938557_3459700_5400639_n.j pg

This woman seems to do a fine job.

How do you know she is doing a good job, from the picture?

I don't see any men around her trying to "get their dick wet" instead of accomplishing the mission?

[ABeardedDragon]

wow

[Verbal]

That's bullshit. The reason I support it is because it completely removes sexuality from combat. It protects the soldier from getting their asses beat, and it protects other soldiers from having the knowledge that they are showering next to a full blown faggot.

You either got in before my edit, or did some selective editing on your own.

The women living in our tents for months were not raped or "sexualized" in the manner you speak. Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of "full blown fagots"? That this attitude on display is somehow "acceptable" what is bullshit.

Either way, I stand by the "It's time to grow up and act like a professional" statement.


"Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of 'full blown faggots?'"

I think you are way out of line here, stud. Did I ever say anything about infantry guys getting worked over by a couple of homos? It wouldn't happen anyway. Also, your insinuation that infantry guys are pussies is FUCKING RIDICULOUS.

I don't know what candy-ass military job or unit you were part of, but I never had the pleasure of working or sleeping in a tent next to women because I had a real fucking military job. Whatever service job you worked in served at the pleasure of the infantry and other combat arms specialities (Armor and Artillery, to name a few), and don't you fucking forget that. We are what matters in the military, not food servers or fucking admin specialists.

The objective in combat should be to kill and neutralize the enemy. All this other garbage, like homos in the military, distracts from the objective. There is a similar reason why women do not serve in combat arms specialties. They are a distraction, as well. With women around, soldiers start to worry more about getting their dick wet than accomplishing the mission.

I'm against anything that distracts from the overall mission of the military. If a couple of faggots feelings get hurt in the process, then so be it.

Did you order the code red?

[ISUFan98]

lol, Verbal.

[ISUFan98]

http://www.realmofdarkness.net/sounds/jack/jack-soundboard-3.htm

[BBK]

You either got in before my edit, or did some selective editing on your own.

The women living in our tents for months were not raped or "sexualized" in the manner you speak. Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of "full blown fagots"? That this attitude on display is somehow "acceptable" what is bullshit.

Either way, I stand by the "It's time to grow up and act like a professional" statement.


"Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of 'full blown faggots?'"

I think you are way out of line here, stud. Did I ever say anything about infantry guys getting worked over by a couple of homos? It wouldn't happen anyway. Also, your insinuation that infantry guys are pussies is FUCKING RIDICULOUS.

I don't know what candy-ass military job or unit you were part of, but I never had the pleasure of working or sleeping in a tent next to women because I had a real fucking military job. Whatever service job you worked in served at the pleasure of the infantry and other combat arms specialities (Armor and Artillery, to name a few), and don't you fucking forget that. We are what matters in the military, not food servers or fucking admin specialists.

The objective in combat should be to kill and neutralize the enemy. All this other garbage, like homos in the military, distracts from the objective. There is a similar reason why women do not serve in combat arms specialties. They are a distraction, as well. With women around, soldiers start to worry more about getting their dick wet than accomplishing the mission.

I'm against anything that distracts from the overall mission of the military. If a couple of faggots feelings get hurt in the process, then so be it.

Did you order the code red?

http://s1.hubimg.com/u/557184_f260.jpg

YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I DID!

[lilzaphod]

That's bullshit. The reason I support it is because it completely removes sexuality from combat. It protects the soldier from getting their asses beat, and it protects other soldiers from having the knowledge that they are showering next to a full blown faggot.

You either got in before my edit, or did some selective editing on your own.

The women living in our tents for months were not raped or "sexualized" in the manner you speak. Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of "full blown fagots"? That this attitude on display is somehow "acceptable" what is bullshit.

Either way, I stand by the "It's time to grow up and act like a professional" statement.


"Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of 'full blown faggots?'"

I think you are way out of line here, stud. Did I ever say anything about infantry guys getting worked over by a couple of homos? It wouldn't happen anyway. Also, your insinuation that infantry guys are pussies is FUCKING RIDICULOUS.

I don't know what candy-ass military job or unit you were part of, but I never had the pleasure of working or sleeping in a tent next to women because I had a real fucking military job. Whatever service job you worked in served at the pleasure of the infantry and other combat arms specialities (Armor and Artillery, to name a few), and don't you fucking forget that. We are what matters in the military, not food servers or fucking admin specialists.

The objective in combat should be to kill and neutralize the enemy. All this other garbage, like homos in the military, distracts from the objective. There is a similar reason why women do not serve in combat arms specialties. They are a distraction, as well. With women around, soldiers start to worry more about getting their dick wet than accomplishing the mission.

I'm against anything that distracts from the overall mission of the military. If a couple of faggots feelings get hurt in the process, then so be it.

You keep telling yourself that, sport. Because it took 8 of my type to get one of your type on the line. If it wasn't for us, you'd never be able to get your ass into the combat theater to begin with, or have the materials necessary to fight.

Let me talk a little more your speed - With out us, you're literally one step away from flinging poo at the enemy.

It's a team sport. I didn't do what you did. I doubt you had the ASVAB/GT scores to do what I did.

Still doesn't take away from the fact that you're scared of a few gais. Pretty weak, you fucking candy ass.

Professional soldiers do not have this issue. Spoiled little children acting like frat boys have that issue. The sooner your type washes and/or ETS out, the stronger the service will be as a whole. Suck it up. It's coming.

[BuffettHawk]

Overall, Kagan seems qualified for the position. The GOP is going to have a hard time stopping her approval.

[Slyhawk]

Overall, Kagan seems qualified for the position. The GOP is going to have a hard time stopping her approval.

Nor should they.

[ISUFan98]

I've found that those who trumpet their own "front-line" service while demeaning those who served "in the rear with the gear" are overcompensating for their own shortcomings in their military career.

[BBK]

You either got in before my edit, or did some selective editing on your own.

The women living in our tents for months were not raped or "sexualized" in the manner you speak. Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of "full blown fagots"? That this attitude on display is somehow "acceptable" what is bullshit.

Either way, I stand by the "It's time to grow up and act like a professional" statement.


"Are the straight infantry guys so wussy that they'd get worked over by a couple of 'full blown faggots?'"

I think you are way out of line here, stud. Did I ever say anything about infantry guys getting worked over by a couple of homos? It wouldn't happen anyway. Also, your insinuation that infantry guys are pussies is FUCKING RIDICULOUS.

I don't know what candy-ass military job or unit you were part of, but I never had the pleasure of working or sleeping in a tent next to women because I had a real fucking military job. Whatever service job you worked in served at the pleasure of the infantry and other combat arms specialities (Armor and Artillery, to name a few), and don't you fucking forget that. We are what matters in the military, not food servers or fucking admin specialists.

The objective in combat should be to kill and neutralize the enemy. All this other garbage, like homos in the military, distracts from the objective. There is a similar reason why women do not serve in combat arms specialties. They are a distraction, as well. With women around, soldiers start to worry more about getting their dick wet than accomplishing the mission.

I'm against anything that distracts from the overall mission of the military. If a couple of faggots feelings get hurt in the process, then so be it.

You keep telling yourself that, sport. Because it took 8 of my type to get one of your type on the line. If it wasn't for us, you'd never be able to get your ass into the combat theater to begin with, or have the materials necessary to fight.

Let me talk a little more your speed - With out us, you're literally one step away from flinging poo at the enemy.

It's a team sport. I didn't do what you did. I doubt you had the ASVAB/GT scores to do what I did.

Still doesn't take away from the fact that you're scared of a few gais. Pretty weak, you fucking candy ass.

Professional soldiers do not have this issue. Spoiled little children acting like frat boys have that issue. The sooner your type washes and/or ETS out, the stronger the service will be as a whole. Suck it up. It's coming.

I had the ASVAB/GT scores to do whatever I wanted, as well. I chose the infantry because I wasn't a sally or a pussy, and I wanted to do a real job.

I know a lot of professional soldiers that do take issue with this. They are not "scared of gays" as you put it. Let me say it a little more simply for you so your retarded ass can understand: IT IS A DISTRACTION.

By the way, thanks for serving my chow and knitting my uniforms. I really couldn't have made it in the military without you doing by little bitch maid work. I really appreciate it.

[BBK]

I've found that those who trumpet their own "front-line" service while demeaning those who served "in the rear with the gear" are overcompensating for their own shortcomings in their military career.

I will let this go, but you are wrong here.

[lilzaphod]

I've found that those who trumpet their own "front-line" service while demeaning those who served "in the rear with the gear" are overcompensating for their own shortcomings in their military career.

I will let this go, but you are wrong here.

That's a non-comment comment.

[SL]

Somebody wasn't wall to wall counseled enough.

[lilzaphod]

I had the ASVAB/GT scores to do whatever I wanted, as well. I chose the infantry because I wasn't a sally or a pussy, and I wanted to do a real job.


Uh huh. Yup. Haven't heard that one from a knuckle-dragger* before.


This is not a reflection on 11-B as a whole, but you, specifically.

[The Tin Man]

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2010/04/15/PH2010041505666.jpghttp://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Fan+2009+Sundance+Portrait+Session+0LnLLyzZhWQl.jp g

[BBK]

I had the ASVAB/GT scores to do whatever I wanted, as well. I chose the infantry because I wasn't a sally or a pussy, and I wanted to do a real job.


Uh huh. Yup. Haven't heard that one from a knuckle-dragger* before.

This is a non-comment comment.

[Rolo Tomassi]

I've found that those who trumpet their own "front-line" service while demeaning those who served "in the rear with the gear" are overcompensating for their own shortcomings in their military career.

I dunno, ISU. I've been reading the give & take in this thread, and the only one I see bragging about his "front-line" service is Zaph. In fact, he seems to be the one who started this little brouhaha with his talk about being "forward deployed", whatever the hell that means.

[ThePracticalPundit]

I had the ASVAB/GT scores to do whatever I wanted, as well. I chose the infantry because I'm a roiling mess of masculine insecurity, and have to repeatedly embark on macho challenges to reinforce my fragile self-image.

Fixed.

[TH1974]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4711/kagan.jpg.http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3710/mostel.jpg

[BBK]

I've found that those who trumpet their own "front-line" service while demeaning those who served "in the rear with the gear" are overcompensating for their own shortcomings in their military career.

I dunno, ISU. I've been reading the give & take in this thread, and the only one I see bragging about his "front-line" service is Zaph. In fact, he seems to be the one who started this little brouhaha with his talk about being "forward deployed", whatever the hell that means.

Seconded. I didn't "trumpet" my service, or mention the phrase "front-line" at any point in this thread.

[MikeyJoe]

I've found that those who trumpet their own "front-line" service while demeaning those who served "in the rear with the gear" are overcompensating for their own shortcomings in their military career.

I dunno, ISU. I've been reading the give & take in this thread, and the only one I see bragging about his "front-line" service is Zaph. In fact, he seems to be the one who started this little brouhaha with his talk about being "forward deployed", whatever the hell that means.

I don't know what candy-ass military job or unit you were part of, but I never had the pleasure of working or sleeping in a tent next to women because I had a real fucking military job. Whatever service job you worked in served at the pleasure of the infantry and other combat arms specialities (Armor and Artillery, to name a few), and don't you fucking forget that. We are what matters in the military, not food servers or fucking admin specialists.


I had the ASVAB/GT scores to do whatever I wanted, as well. I chose the infantry because I wasn't a sally or a pussy, and I wanted to do a real job.

...

By the way, thanks for serving my chow and knitting my uniforms. I really couldn't have made it in the military without you doing by little bitch maid work. I really appreciate it.

Uh huh.

[BBK]

I had the ASVAB/GT scores to do whatever I wanted, as well. I chose the infantry because people like ThePracticalPundit need to have people like me around so that his effeminate ass can sleep safe and sound with his penis tucked in between his legs.

Reedited for actual accuracy.

[ThePracticalPundit]

I had the ASVAB/GT scores to do whatever I wanted, as well. I chose the infantry because people like ThePracticalPundit need to have people like me around so that his effeminate ass can sleep safe and sound with his penis tucked in between his legs.

Reedited for actual accuracy.

Spot on. Didn't realize I was that transparent. 'Scuse me while I go adjust my penis. Chafing a little.

[Slyhawk]

I know a lot of professional soldiers that do take issue with this. They are not "scared of gays" as you put it. Let me say it a little more simply for you so your retarded ass can understand: IT IS A DISTRACTION.

Only if you are a latent homosexual scared of having your feelings drawn out. For the straight soldiers, not so much.

[BBK]

I know a lot of professional soldiers that do take issue with this. They are not "scared of gays" as you put it. Let me say it a little more simply for you so your retarded ass can understand: IT IS A DISTRACTION.

Only if you are a latent homosexual scared of having your feelings drawn out. For the straight soldiers, not so much.

You got me. By the way, can I get your phone number, maybe we can go out some time.

[Slyhawk]

I know a lot of professional soldiers that do take issue with this. They are not "scared of gays" as you put it. Let me say it a little more simply for you so your retarded ass can understand: IT IS A DISTRACTION.

Only if you are a latent homosexual scared of having your feelings drawn out. For the straight soldiers, not so much.

You got me. By the way, can I get your phone number, maybe we can go out some time.

Wouldn't work out, I don't suffer from the ghey like you do.

[BBK]

Only if you are a latent homosexual scared of having your feelings drawn out. For the straight soldiers, not so much.

You got me. By the way, can I get your phone number, maybe we can go out some time.

Wouldn't work out, I don't suffer from the ghey like you do.

Only a homo would advocate for the repeal of don't ask, don't tell.

[Slyhawk]

You got me. By the way, can I get your phone number, maybe we can go out some time.

Wouldn't work out, I don't suffer from the ghey like you do.

Only a homo would advocate for the repeal of don't ask, don't tell.

According to the latest Army Times poll, that's about 30% of the military. Another 20% don't care. That's a lot of homos in the service.

[RobertIngersoll]

Wouldn't work out, I don't suffer from the ghey like you do.

Only a homo would advocate for the repeal of don't ask, don't tell.

According to the latest Army Times poll, that's about 30% of the military. Another 20% don't care. That's a lot of homos in the service.

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/29852/1124361-troll_2_super.jpg
Please, do not feed the troll!

[Lime]

Overall, Kagan seems qualified for the position. The GOP is going to have a hard time stopping her approval.

Nor should they.

Yeah, I don't see why they would. She's qualified, is actually more conservative than Stevens, and I don't think it serves the GOP well to have a nomination fight when they are likely to pick up seats in November.

[Rolo Tomassi]

Overall, Kagan seems qualified for the position. The GOP is going to have a hard time stopping her approval.

Nor should they.

Yeah, I don't see why they would. She's qualified, is actually more conservative than Stevens, and I don't think it serves the GOP well to have a nomination fight when they are likely to pick up seats in November.


While I agree with the notion that a nomination fight would not serve the GOP's interests, I believe that basing any acceptance of Kagan even partly on the notion that she's somewhat conservative, or that she moves the Court to the right, is a bit misguided.

[ISUFan98]

Nor should they.

Yeah, I don't see why they would. She's qualified, is actually more conservative than Stevens, and I don't think it serves the GOP well to have a nomination fight when they are likely to pick up seats in November.


While I agree with the notion that a nomination fight would not serve the GOP's interests, I believe that basing any acceptance of Kagan even partly on the notion that she's somewhat conservative, or that she moves the Court to the right, is a bit misguided.

She certainly can't move it any further to the left.

[newsbreaker]

I apologize if this was covered in this thread already, but found it slightly interesting.

Kagan hasn't written a great deal, but one of the subjects she is "on-record" concerns Supreme Court Nominees/Confirmation. She apparently finds the rubber-stamp style system to be deplorable and strongly believes the Senate should probe every nominee deeply to find their true stance on various issues.

[Rolo Tomassi]

Does the Biblical admonition about "casting pearls before swine" come to mind when looking at Kagan and her necklace?

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Solicitor+General+Elena+Kagan+Addresses+Georgetown +EPIL9ol6sZkl.jpg

Can we do a little better than "she's ugly" as a means determining her credibility?

Come on, guys.


Who said her ugliness had anything to do with her credibility?

[Rolo Tomassi]

Yeah, I don't see why they would. She's qualified, is actually more conservative than Stevens, and I don't think it serves the GOP well to have a nomination fight when they are likely to pick up seats in November.


While I agree with the notion that a nomination fight would not serve the GOP's interests, I believe that basing any acceptance of Kagan even partly on the notion that she's somewhat conservative, or that she moves the Court to the right, is a bit misguided.

She certainly can't move it any further to the left.

Since she's replacing another liberal, you're probably correct. But it's ridiculous to claim, especially considering her sparse history, that she's going to move it to the right.

[jabberja]

Looks like she was more fun in the 70s.

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