Purdue comedic loss aftermath

[Natty Bumppo]

Originally Posted by lilzaphod

Vandenburg is still better than Jar Jar.

Meesa not so sure. Meesa thinks Jar Jar decreased playing time throughout the trilogy, JVB still has prominent role.

[L. Wade Childress]

textbook dougie there.

[FrodoTBaggin]

Originally Posted by hawkeyealum

Lwade is already the dumbest basketball poster here. Might as well add dumbest football poster to the resume as well.

Lmao. I had to quit reading his posts.

[kaugie01]

Originally Posted by douglasbader

It would be really, really nice to see if another QB was just as awful or if Vandy is the real problem.

My guess is Kirk knows the same exact thing and hasn't wanted to put someone else in because it will either make a fool of Vandy or a fool of Greg Davis. He will then be pressured to act if Rudock is just as bad.

I really don't think KF feels pressure to do anything, whether it be from fans, assistant coaches, or Gary Barta.

[StinkyMcFadden]

Originally Posted by FrodoTBaggin

Lmao. I had to quit reading his posts.

He's had a rough couple of years.

[douglasbader]

Originally Posted by L. Wade Childress

textbook dougie there.

I honestly think you have no clue what you just did.

[L. Wade Childress]

Ricky needed a lot of work after 2009. That was clear. Did he show enough early in those blowouts to be a guy they could trust, or the more reps the better? We know what the staff thought .

[douglasbader]

Originally Posted by L. Wade Childress

Ricky needed a lot of work after 2009. That was clear. Did he show enough early in those blowouts to be a guy they could trust, or the more reps the better? We know what the staff thought .

We know you apparently agreed with them until 5 posts later when you didn't.

[lilzaphod]

Originally Posted by Alan Lomax

Berg or turd please.

Fuck you. I have cancer. I'll call him the fuck I want. You can either suck it up or go die. Those are your options.

[JayHawki]

Originally Posted by lilzaphod

Fuck you. I have cancer. I'll call him the fuck I want. You can either suck it up or go die. Those are your options.

Fucking BAM, bitch

[Orestes]

Originally Posted by douglasbader

He needs to be questioned, annoyed, embarrassed and sitting on his hands for a bowl season to remember what real failure feels like.

Just remember that the last time this happened, Ferentz came back more stubborn than ever and insisted Jake Christensen be given every gd chance to lose games for Iowa. If it hadn't been for a magical season that Greene puled out of his ass, Ferentz wouldn't have appeared to have learned a fucking thing from a shitty season.

Just sayin'.

There is no reason for optimism. None. Zero. This man had the chance to start over and get fresh and he chose his son, a washed-up suck-ass, and a defensive assistant who had sucked when given the chance to substitute for the job (and, from what I've heard from people who have held jobs in the football offices, is thought of as a real jerk). He has no interest in doing anything new or changing. He has no interest in doing the only things that can turn around the program.

Nothing good can come as long as he is here. This is not getting turned around. He is not going to open himself up to a new philosophy. He is not going to fire anyone - or at least, if he does, he is not going to hire someone to modernize the place. There is no realistic hope that he has the capacity to make this better or that there are the skilled and athletic players to create a new version of Angerer or Spievey or Clayborn or King.

[brantshawks]

Originally Posted by Rodney Farva

So much this.


If Davis is here again next year, my season tickets will not be renewed. I left at halftime yesterday, partly because I couldn't stand watching that offense any more and partially because the only person I could find to go with me yesterday was my neighbor who could give a fuck less about Iowa football.

On a positive note, I got to have a shot of Hot Damn! with Bovert, Brants (hammered), Pundit and Mr & Mrs R4. Good times, I will miss those if Davis is there next year.

I was just a little over served. I blame Bovert with the BV and the Hawkeyes with the VD.

[Shawneemicks]

Originally Posted by Orestes

Just remember that the last time this happened, Ferentz came back more stubborn than ever and insisted Jake Christensen be given every gd chance to lose games for Iowa. If it hadn't been for a magical season that Greene puled out of his ass, Ferentz wouldn't have appeared to have learned a fucking thing from a shitty season.

Just sayin'.

There is no reason for optimism. None. Zero. This man had the chance to start over and get fresh and he chose his son, a washed-up suck-ass, and a defensive assistant who had sucked when given the chance to substitute for the job (and, from what I've heard from people who have held jobs in the football offices, is thought of as a real jerk). He has no interest in doing anything new or changing. He has no interest in doing the only things that can turn around the program.

Nothing good can come as long as he is here. This is not getting turned around. He is not going to open himself up to a new philosophy. He is not going to fire anyone - or at least, if he does, he is not going to hire someone to modernize the place. There is no realistic hope that he has the capacity to make this better or that there are the skilled and athletic players to create a new version of Angerer or Spievey or Clayborn or King.

Orestes is wise

[Hawk4Life94]

You should have seen his break downs after Sapranos episodes.

[L. Wade Childress]

Originally Posted by Orestes

Just remember that the last time this happened, Ferentz came back more stubborn than ever and insisted Jake Christensen be given every gd chance to lose games for Iowa. If it hadn't been for a magical season that Greene puled out of his ass, Ferentz wouldn't have appeared to have learned a fucking thing from a shitty season.

Just sayin'.

There is no reason for optimism. None. Zero. This man had the chance to start over and get fresh and he chose his son, a washed-up suck-ass, and a defensive assistant who had sucked when given the chance to substitute for the job (and, from what I've heard from people who have held jobs in the football offices, is thought of as a real jerk). He has no interest in doing anything new or changing. He has no interest in doing the only things that can turn around the program.

Nothing good can come as long as he is here. This is not getting turned around. He is not going to open himself up to a new philosophy. He is not going to fire anyone - or at least, if he does, he is not going to hire someone to modernize the place. There is no realistic hope that he has the capacity to make this better or that there are the skilled and athletic players to create a new version of Angerer or Spievey or Clayborn or King.

good points, but regardless of KF wants, at least four of our major problems automatically go away next year (QB, o-line health, RB health, lack of talent on DL)

[douglasbader]

Originally Posted by Orestes

Just remember that the last time this happened, Ferentz came back more stubborn than ever and insisted Jake Christensen be given every gd chance to lose games for Iowa. If it hadn't been for a magical season that Greene puled out of his ass, Ferentz wouldn't have appeared to have learned a fucking thing from a shitty season.

Just sayin'.

There is no reason for optimism. None. Zero. This man had the chance to start over and get fresh and he chose his son, a washed-up suck-ass, and a defensive assistant who had sucked when given the chance to substitute for the job (and, from what I've heard from people who have held jobs in the football offices, is thought of as a real jerk). He has no interest in doing anything new or changing. He has no interest in doing the only things that can turn around the program.

Nothing good can come as long as he is here. This is not getting turned around. He is not going to open himself up to a new philosophy. He is not going to fire anyone - or at least, if he does, he is not going to hire someone to modernize the place. There is no realistic hope that he has the capacity to make this better or that there are the skilled and athletic players to create a new version of Angerer or Spievey or Clayborn or King.

You may be spot on, but I don't agree with the last part. This team has a lot of young, highly rated talent on the team. If Ferentz can somehow keep them from transferring, I think they could turn this around.

Law, Lomax, Cooper, Johnson, Ekakatie, Lile, Flemming, Ott, Draper, and others are all capable of being good players. All of them had tons of other offers.

The Offensive Line will be scary good next year as well and should start out healthy.

Still hope for this program.

[Mo T]

The major assumption is the QB position won't suck as bad as it does this year.

[douglasbader]

Like it or not, call it an excuse and everyone has them, but we have had so many fucking injuries.

I would love to see what Iowa can do next year with a healthy O-Line and Running Backs.

Pretty much think Greg Davis needs to fall on the sword for Kirk. He should do everyone a favor and just announce he is retiring after the last game. Best case scenario all around.

[Shawneemicks]

Originally Posted by L. Wade Childress

good points, but regardless of KF wants, at least four of our major problems automatically go away next year (QB, o-line health, RB health, lack of talent on DL)

I would not bet actual money on any one of those areas being better.
DL maybe, and that's only because of Morgan.

[douglasbader]

Originally Posted by Mo T

The major assumption is the QB position won't suck as bad as it does this year.

It can't possibly. There is nowhere to go but up. He is the worst in the entire NCAA and like 15th in a 11 team league. There will be improvement regardless.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by L. Wade Childress

at least four of our major problems automatically go away next year (QB, o-line health, RB health, lack of talent on DL)

lol. Sure it will.

[Revolver Ocelot]

Originally Posted by douglasbader

Pretty much think Greg Davis needs to fall on the sword for Kirk. He should do everyone a favor and just announce he is retiring after the last game. Best case scenario all around.

This may indeed happen, and it will calm a lot of the angry fans down...but it won't solve the main issue at hand..and that's what sucks about this situation we are in.

[Uff Da]

Originally Posted by douglasbader

It can't possibly. There is nowhere to go but up. He is the worst in the entire NCAA and like 15th in a 11 team league. There will be improvement regardless.

If it is the same offensive scheme and OC next year, not sure there will be any improvement at the QB position.

[Shawneemicks]

Originally Posted by douglasbader

It can't possibly. There is nowhere to go but up. He is the worst in the entire NCAA and like 15th in a 11 team league. There will be improvement regardless.

Did Delany finally do the right thing and kick Penn St out?

[AZmess]

Originally Posted by Verbal

lol. Sure it will.

Since 2004, one RB has made it all 4 years.....name him.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by AZmess

Since 2004, one RB has made it all 4 years.....name him.

Damian Sims?

[Shawneemicks]

Originally Posted by AZmess

Since 2004, one RB has made it all 4 years.....name him.

Paki

[OlePeep]

Originally Posted by douglasbader

It can't possibly. There is nowhere to go but up. He is the worst in the entire NCAA and like 15th in a 11 team league. There will be improvement regardless.

114th out of 119 ranked:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ating/count/81

Best.Chance.To.Win.

[Verbal]

Paki got hurt his senior year. Concussed maybe.

[hawkeyealum]

Originally Posted by OlePeep

114th out of 119 ranked:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ating/count/81

Best.Chance.To.Win.

25th in attempts.

[hawkeyealum]

95 in completion percentage
67 in yards

he is fucking abysmal

[L. Wade Childress]

Next year we will have weisman, bullock, hill, garmon, and malloy along with possibly edwards and/or wimberley. we are going to be fine at RB. especially if bullock and edwards play in the slot a bit.

there is a 0% that one of three fairly well recruited QB's is not better than JVB

we are redshirted two of our best DL recruits since clayborn

our best lineman will return and if our 2nd best lineman isnt healthy in time, we have our highly ranked recruit redshirting this year and ready to play. plus blythe moves to his natural position of center.

[L. Wade Childress]

we have glaring concerns at both safety spots and WR.

we have potential concerns at DE, mike, will, and P

thats about it.

[nolookpass]

isnt Boffeli the anticipated starter at center next year?

[douglasbader]

Originally Posted by nolookpass

isnt Boffeli the anticipated starter at center next year?

No, I think Blythe will be. Perhaps even the JUCO kid.

[L. Wade Childress]

yep. blythe hasnt looked good at guard, but thats partially because he was recruited as a center by everyone and partially because he is a freshman.

[Kerky]

Offensive line should be a strong group and the strength of the team next year. I am worried about DE, depth at LB, WR and the big ? at QB.

[FrodoTBaggin]

I like KMM, don't mind Cotton and I think Tevaun Smith will be good. Not as worried about the receving corp if we can get rid of Davis somehow, someway. That's just me though.

[hawkeyealum]

Im with you on Smith frodo.

Problem is still a quarterback who can get him the fucking ball

[L. Wade Childress]

what are the odds that one of out of three QB's who had combined offers from arizona, miami, wisconsin, SMU, maryland, illinois, minnesota, cincy, baylor, and ole miss is NOT better than JVB?

microscopic.

[StinkyMcFadden]

Originally Posted by L. Wade Childress

what are the odds that one of out of three QB's who had combined offers from arizona, miami, wisconsin, SMU, maryland, illinois, minnesota, cincy, baylor, and ole miss is NOT better than JVB?

microscopic.

The one with a Florida State offer apparently sucks worse, at least according to Kirk.

[Hawk4Life25]

So the WRs we have now were all recruited by KOK...GD wants the quick guys who can turn those 1-2 yard routes into bigger gains...the recruits seem to fit that mold...will be interesting to watch next year...will the young guys play? (typically goes against the KF philosophy)

[StinkyMcFadden]

Keenan Davis has really been good this year. It's like this system was built with him in mind.

[Mo T]

Originally Posted by L. Wade Childress

what are the odds that one of out of three QB's who had combined offers from arizona, miami, wisconsin, SMU, maryland, illinois, minnesota, cincy, baylor, and ole miss is NOT better than JVB?

microscopic.

What are the odds that all three actually get the same attempt to earn the starting job? KF likes guys who have put in their time the longest.

[Debit One]

Originally Posted by L. Wade Childress

yep. blythe hasnt looked good at guard

Saying that he hasn't looked good is an understatement given that #93 for Purdue repeatedly had prison sex with him on Saturday.

[L. Wade Childress]

Originally Posted by Mo T

What are the odds that all three actually get the same attempt to earn the starting job? KF likes guys who have put in their time the longest.

if that were the case, he wouldnt even have recruited sokol.

everyone is on equal footing next year. rudock had the best offer list anyway.

[Kamala]

Originally Posted by L. Wade Childress

Next year we will have weisman, bullock, hill, garmon, and malloy along with possibly edwards and/or wimberley. we are going to be fine at RB. especially if bullock and edwards play in the slot a bit.

there is a 0% that one of three fairly well recruited QB's is not better than JVB

we are redshirted two of our best DL recruits since clayborn

our best lineman will return and if our 2nd best lineman isnt healthy in time, we have our highly ranked recruit redshirting this year and ready to play. plus blythe moves to his natural position of center.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[L. Wade Childress]

fair point.

[douglasbader]

The running back injuries pendulum will swing the other way at some point, and I still think that is next year. When it does, we will have an overloaded stable of backs.

I actually think that Greg Garmon my be the most likely transfer candidate after this year. His playing time keeps decreasing as the year goes on despite having only 1 other healthy back. Looks like they have completely given up on him.

Given how slender he is and how much Ferentz will want to pound the ball going forward, I just don't see him ever being the featured back at Iowa. You have Bullock, Weisman, Canzeri, Hill and Malloy at a minimum coming back.

[L. Wade Childress]

hill had already beaten out garmon before getting hurt to, but garmon had offers at safety from some good teams so maybe hes part of the solution there after putting on some good weight.