Starting QB

[Lime]

Weirdly we haven't really had any official poll or discussion.

[Gushawk]

My heart says Beathard, my head says Sokol.

[Mr. Hawk]

hard to believe that Rudock stuck around if he knew or suspected that he wasn't going to be the starter.

[valp0guy]

Originally Posted by Mr. Hawk

hard to believe that Rudock stuck around if he knew or suspected that he wasn't going to be the starter.

Hard to believe the coaches never got him in a game if they knew he was going to be the starter.

[Lime]

Originally Posted by Gushawk

My heart says Beathard, my head says Sokol.

It's all pretty much a blind guess, but I'm guessing Sokol.

I think Rudock must be terrible if Ferentz wouldn't give him a snap.

general bias (not necessarily a knock on KF) towards the older player.

[Hawk4Life94]

Originally Posted by Mr. Hawk

hard to believe that Rudock stuck around if he knew or suspected that he wasn't going to be the starter.

He's there to be a doctor, not play football@!!11!@#!!#!!!

[DGHawk]

I have a feeling that it will be Sokol and he'll look like Randy Reiners. But the backups will look like Ryan Driscoll and Matt Eyde, so he's the best option. FML

KF is a dumb fuck.

[Lime]

Beathard is probably the most interesting if only because he is from an area that Iowa pretty much never recruits. I'm amused that Sokol's Rivals picture has him with long hair and disc earrings, but then he is clean-cut and has no earrings in his Iowa picture. It's cool that he played for the Fighting Artichokes, but his JUCO completion % is listed at 56% which isn't great.

Rudock probably had the best offer list (Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota) followed by Sokol (Maryland, Arizona, Cincinnati) and then Beathard (Ole Miss, SMU).

(I know this is largely old news, just thinking out loud)

[Mr. Hawk]

Originally Posted by Lime

Rudock probably had the best offer list (Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota) followed by Sokol (Maryland, Arizona, Cincinnati) and then Beathard (Ole Miss, SMU).

I thought Rudock was offered by FSU or Florida?

[Lime]

Originally Posted by Mr. Hawk

I thought Rudock was offered by FSU or Florida?

I thought he was offered by Miami, but Rivals doesn't list them.

[valp0guy]

The father of quarterback recruit Jake Rudock said Monday night that his son is not wavering over his commitment to Iowa or planning to visit the University of Miami.

“He is still solid with Iowa,” Bob Rudock said. “He is not de-committing. That’s not happening.”

Reports surfaced shortly after Al Golden was hired as the new head coach at Miami that Jake Rudock was now considering the Hurricanes.

Jake Rudock attends perennial power St. Thomas Aquinas High School in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

He led his team to a 15-0 record while passing for nearly 3,000 yards and 36 touchdowns as a senior this past season.

Golden began recruiting Rudock almost immediately after being hired at Miami in December.

[atemp]

Originally Posted by Mr. Hawk

hard to believe that Rudock stuck around if he knew or suspected that he wasn't going to be the starter.

Someone on here says he is at Iowa for more than football - it's Medical School.

[C-3PO]

No clue, none at all.

I supposed based on garbage time last year that the edge would go to... Wait... Eh, nevermind.

[Verbal]

Rudock has slept in hotels in East Lansing, Chicago, Ann Arbor and Bloomington. He's ready. KF will start him every game, barring injury, further adding to the retarded mystique of the 2012 season.

[Rodney Farva]

From what I've been told, Rudock is not good and that's why he didn't play last year. Was also told by the same person that Beathard will be the starter next year and they didn't want to pull his redshirt last year. That's why they stuck with Vandenburg.

This person also lead me down the wrong road on the D-Coordinator job last year..........

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by valp0guy

Hard to believe the coaches never got him in a game if they knew he was going to be the starter.

That's just it. That is exactly what they'll do. They are blithering idiots of the highest order. I truly believe it.

We're inexperienced there, certainly, but we've got a tremendous amount of confidence that Jake will do a nice job for us. Fuck you.

[Gushawk]

I will not, cannot, believe Ruddock doesn't suck terribly.

[CUIHAWk]

I think I'm going to walk on. I want to be added to the poll.

[Gushawk]

I think I could have thrown 4 coordinating and quarterbacking the offense, so I do give some credence to the can't be worse camp.

[Alan Lomax]

Originally Posted by Gushawk

I think I could have thrown 4 coordinating and quarterbacking the offense, so I do give some credence to the can't be worse camp.

There you have it. If it's worse Gus will eat a bowl of my shit.

[Gushawk]

If it's worse, justice would demand Greg Davis eat a bowl of your shit.

[FrodoTBaggin]

How is rudock so shitty? I don't get it. I remember watching the qbs warm up at Indiana last year and sadly, Vandy was the only one that "looked" like he threw a good football with any actual velocity. I remember thinking the other guys looked like shit. So we have that going for us, which is nice.

[Gushawk]

Originally Posted by FrodoTBaggin

How is rudock so shitty? I don't get it. I remember watching the qbs warm up at Indiana last year and sadly, Vandy was the only one that "looked" like he threw a good football with any actual velocity. I remember thinking the other guys looked like shit. So we have that going for us, which is nice.

Rudock = Weinke2.0. And there have been many previous iterations ... Jefferson Bates, Matt Eyde, etc. Some just never adjust to the step up, physically, mentally or both.

[Mr. Hawk]

I hate all of you for dashing my hopes so early.

[Alan Lomax]

Originally Posted by Gushawk

If it's worse, justice would demand Greg Davis eat a bowl of your shit.

I would make sure it was good and soupy.

[FrodoTBaggin]

Originally Posted by Gushawk

Rudock = Weinke2.0. And there have been many previous iterations ... Jefferson Bates, Matt Eyde, etc. Some just never adjust to the step up, physically, mentally or both.

Well yeah, we know it happens, I just had a different feeling about that kid. people were really high on him.

[nolookpass]

56 percent completion rate in JUCO? Derby like numbers.

but seriously, your completion pct doesnt go up as your competition improves.

[DoeyHawk]

Originally Posted by FrodoTBaggin

How is rudock so shitty? I don't get it. I remember watching the qbs warm up at Indiana last year and sadly, Vandy was the only one that "looked" like he threw a good football with any actual velocity. I remember thinking the other guys looked like shit. So we have that going for us, which is nice.

Ruddock is your starter next year. Kirk knew deep down that he deserved some time last year, however his loyalty to JVB wouldn't allow him to pull th trigger.

[Hawk4Life94]

Does Hounded have any eligibility left? I hear he can throw 80 yards.

[Gushawk]

Hounded would have thrown 5+ TDs too, some miraculous.

[Kamala]

Whatever decision the staff makes will be the incorrect one.

[drbutkus]

I still have a year of eligibility.

[brantshawks]

Originally Posted by nolookpass

56 percent completion rate in JUCO? Derby like numbers.

but seriously, your completion pct doesnt go up as your competition improves.

No but having receivers that are better (presumably) does.

[hawkeyealum]

Shit. I need to change my vote from beathard to Sokol seeing as how Mo has also picked beathard

[Hawk4Life94]

The 20+ dudes picking Rudock are either high or brain damaged.

[Hawkstrat]

Originally Posted by Hawk4Life94

The 20+ dudes picking Rudock are either high or brain damaged.

You underestimate Kirk Ferentz' ability to astonish with idiocy.

[Debit One]

Originally Posted by Hawk4Life94

The 20+ dudes picking Rudock are either high or brain damaged.

The guys ruling out Rudock are assuming that logic entered into KF's refusal to play Rudock last season.

[Gushawk]

I heard a rumor that KF wanted to put Rudock in at Indiana but GD said no. If true, that would suggest GD thinks Rudock sucks (he owed little loyalty to JVB), and GD clearly has pull out the ass in this program right now. I doubt it's Rudock.

[StyrofoamBoots]

Originally Posted by atemp

Someone on here says he is at Iowa for more than football - it's Medical School.

If this was true, wouldn't he be better off doing his undergrad elsewhere? I don't know, but I've been told, Carver admits Iowa undergrads less generously than they could.

[Hawk4Life94]

Originally Posted by Gushawk

I heard a rumor that KF wanted to put Rudock in at Indiana but GD said no. If true, that would suggest GD thinks Rudock sucks (he owed little loyalty to JVB), and GD clearly has pull out the ass in this program right now. I doubt it's Rudock.

I've heard this story also...from extremely reliable sources.(INSIDER!!@@!~).

It's fucking comical that KF would take back seat orders from Greg fucking Davis.

[hawkeyenerd]

Any chance of Nic Shimonek?

[Gushawk]

Only if they are looking for an excuse.

[ChipHilton]

One irony in the Rudock saga is that he was apparently looking good enough as a freshman that the Derby position switch was made. This was under KOK, of course. Some of the 2012 thing was probably that Rudock didn't gain much physically from year one to year two- he still looked more like Eric Sowinski than a college football player.

I still thought Rudock looked better than Vandy in the spring and August public workouts, though.

[Kotz]

Originally Posted by ChipHilton

I still thought Rudock looked better than Vandy in the spring and August public workouts, though.

Maybe that's because his passes were being defended by Tanner Miller?

[DoeyHawk]

Originally Posted by Debit One

The guys ruling out Rudock are assuming that logic entered into KF's refusal to play Rudock last season.

There is no reasonable explanation why the #2 QB didn't play in the Penn State game. None.

[Kotz]

Originally Posted by DoeyHawk

There is no reasonable explanation why the #2 QB didn't play in the Penn State game. None.

That would be true regardless of how good (or bad) Rudock is, and really isn't an indicator that Sokol/Beathard is better.

I read the move to leave Vandy in as an effort to get him work against the PSU 2's in hope that he can string something together and build some (any) level of confidence running the offense that would carry into the next week. Obviously, it didn't really work out that way. But Vandy was certainly in need of all the help he could get in that regard. Not necessarily a reflection of Rudock vs. Sokol vs. Beathard, IMO.

I voted that Sokol would be the starter, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was Rudock either.

[Gushawk]

They obviously concluded, rationally or not, that Rudock did not give them a better chance of winning games late in the season relative to an utterly and obviously ineffectual Vandenburg. To me, that bodes poorly for Rudock. Now, they might also think that both Sokol and Beathard were clearly inferior to last year's Vandy, but even with all my pessimism I just can't bring myself to accept that as a real possibility.

[DoeyHawk]

Originally Posted by Gushawk

They obviously concluded, rationally or not, that Rudock did not give them a better chance of winning games late in the season relative to an utterly and obviously ineffectual Vandenburg. To me, that bodes poorly for Rudock. Now, they might also think that both Sokol and Beathard were clearly inferior to last year's Vandy, but even with all my pessimism I just can't bring myself to accept that as a real possibility.

Ruddock or any #2 could've looked like Joe Montana in practice and it wouldn't have mattered. Kirk would NEVER bench a multi-year starting, Sr, QB.

[douglasbader]

WHO FUCKING CARES.

Seriously.

[Mr. Hawk]

Originally Posted by DoeyHawk

Ruddock or any #2 could've looked like Joe Montana in practice and it wouldn't have mattered. Kirk would NEVER bench a multi-year starting, Sr, QB.

I agree with this, which is partially why I still assume that Rudock is in the running. The other part, as I posted above, is that he didn't transfer.