UI To Extend Ferentz's Contract

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Gushawk · 09-02-2010, 04:41 PM

That '99 class kicks some ass: KF, Stoops, Mack Brown, Edsall.

douglasbader · 09-02-2010, 04:49 PM

Kirk loves it here.

Match34 · 09-02-2010, 04:50 PM

10 years? That's risky. I wonder what a buyout would cost Iowa.

Jimmie Dimmick · 09-02-2010, 04:50 PM

Kirk is long boyz.

douglasbader · 09-02-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Match34

10 years? That's risky. I wonder what a buyout would cost Iowa.

I guess anything could happen, but I imagine if it got to a certain point and it was that bad, Kirk would leave and take an NFL job.

douglasbader · 09-02-2010, 04:55 PM

Also, it is a huge recruiting tool to be able to show a kid "hey, I've been here 12 years so far and I am signed for another 10. I WILL be your coach for your entire career."

Rodney Farva · 09-02-2010, 05:00 PM

The Game is gonna be pissed

PlannedSickDays · 09-02-2010, 05:22 PM

RT @marcmorehouse: Ferentz is the highest-paid coach in the Big Ten, per Barta.

CamelTones · 09-02-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmie Dimmick

Kirk is long boyz.

When I saw this on Hawkeyesports.com my first thought was to come over here and post that, you stole my thunder.

lilzaphod · 09-02-2010, 05:52 PM

This made my shitty night.

TH1974 · 09-02-2010, 06:32 PM

How does this affect his plans to jump to the NFL?

brantshawks · 09-02-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lilzaphod

This made my shitty night.

You all right big guy? Need a little bit of love? Maybe just a man-hug. Nothing gay or anything, but I understand if after hanging out with MH you won't trust me.

PipeDaddy · 09-02-2010, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douglasbader

Also, it is a huge recruiting tool to be able to show a kid "hey, I've been here 12 years so far and I am signed for another 10. I WILL be your coach for your entire career."

Except, of course, every time the NFL rumors come up. I'm quite sure that KF can leave whenever he wants under the extension.

Corporate Raider · 09-02-2010, 08:35 PM

Well deserved and would still be a bargain at twice the price.

The Tin Man · 09-03-2010, 08:26 AM

Might as well just make it a lifetime contract. Ferentz will be our coach for as long as he wants to be.

Debit One · 09-03-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Corporate Raider

Well deserved and would still be a bargain at twice the price.

As absurd as this sounds on the face of it, I agree.

70,000 seats x $60/seat x 7 games = $29.4M of ticket revenue. Now add to that revenue from bowl games, donations to the athletic department, etc., etc.

It isn't absurd to think that Iowa's athletic program could lose $10M per year between where it is now and where it would be if a middling Ferentz replacement were at the helm.

Pinehawk · 09-03-2010, 12:44 PM

This tells me that Ferentz is pleased with where the Big 10 is going. If he had concerns about the future of the conference or the new division set up, he might not have gone for an extension right now.

lilzaphod · 09-03-2010, 01:20 PM

Been chewing on this one for a while now.

Honest question - outside of Hayden bringing back a door mat into respectability, when will it be ok to start talking about KF in the same manner as we do HF? Hayden gets the nod now for reviving the team, the scrambled eggs hat, the white pants after labor day, and that mean mother trucking moustache.

But I gotta say, KF is getting really close as far as resume. He's won the big game (OB), he's taken the teams almost as high at HF (how many #8s now at end of season? 3-4?), and his tenure is going to be longer than loog or Delaney.

Hayden had the #1 vs #2 team win, and I'll always love him, but I gotta say that KF is going to surpass Mr. Hokey Pokey, and it may be this season.

DoeyHawk · 09-03-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lilzaphod

Been chewing on this one for a while now.

Honest question - outside of Hayden bringing back a door mat into respectability, when will it be ok to start talking about KF in the same manner as we do HF? Hayden gets the nod now for reviving the team, the scrambled eggs hat, the white pants after labor day, and that mean mother trucking moustache.

But I gotta say, KF is getting really close as far as resume. He's won the big game (OB), he's taken the teams almost as high at HF (how many #8s now at end of season? 3-4?), and his tenure is going to be longer than loog or Delaney.

Hayden had the #1 vs #2 team win, and I'll always love him, but I gotta say that KF is going to surpass Mr. Hokey Pokey, and it may be this season.

It's close now. After winning the National Championship this year KF will cement is legacy as THE Iowa football coach.

TH1974 · 09-03-2010, 01:22 PM

KF > HF

danish_hawkeye · 09-03-2010, 01:23 PM

KF needs a rose bowl on his resume

lilzaphod · 09-03-2010, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danish_hawkeye

KF needs a rose bowl victory on his resume

If we win out and get fucked out of the rose, I think we as a collective fan base, should go to the BCS and take a shit on their doorstep.

I'll even eat a combo of Mexican and Indian food mixed with fiber pills for the event.

danish_hawkeye · 09-03-2010, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilzaphod

Quote:

Originally Posted by danish_hawkeye

KF needs a rose bowl victory on his resume

If we win out and get fucked out of the rose, I think we as a collective fan base, should go to the BCS and take a shit on their doorstep.

I'll even eat a combo of Mexican and Indian food mixed with fiber pills for the event.

in

TH1974 · 09-03-2010, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilzaphod

I'll even eat a combo of Mexican and Indian food mixed with fiber pills for the event.

That's also known as the "Norm Parker after watching Iowa State's unstoppable offense".

newsbreaker · 09-03-2010, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilzaphod

Quote:

Originally Posted by danish_hawkeye

KF needs a rose bowl victory on his resume

If we win out and get fucked out of the rose, I think we as a collective fan base, should go to the BCS and take a shit on their doorstep.

I'll even eat a combo of Mexican and Indian food mixed with fiber pills for the event.

Won't happen. If Iowa throws a regular season 12 on the board, there is no way we don't play for either the NC or in the Rose Bowl.

LutherBlue89 · 09-03-2010, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilzaphod

Been chewing on this one for a while now.

Honest question - outside of Hayden bringing back a door mat into respectability, when will it be ok to start talking about KF in the same manner as we do HF? Hayden gets the nod now for reviving the team, the scrambled eggs hat, the white pants after labor day, and that mean mother trucking moustache.

But I gotta say, KF is getting really close as far as resume. He's won the big game (OB), he's taken the teams almost as high at HF (how many #8s now at end of season? 3-4?), and his tenure is going to be longer than loog or Delaney.

Hayden had the #1 vs #2 team win, and I'll always love him, but I gotta say that KF is going to surpass Mr. Hokey Pokey, and it may be this season.

Kirk just needs to put his right foot in ...

lilzaphod · 09-03-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by newsbreaker

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilzaphod

Quote:

Originally Posted by danish_hawkeye

KF needs a rose bowl victory on his resume

If we win out and get fucked out of the rose, I think we as a collective fan base, should go to the BCS and take a shit on their doorstep.

I'll even eat a combo of Mexican and Indian food mixed with fiber pills for the event.

Won't happen. If Iowa throws a regular season 12 on the board, there is no way we don't play for either the NC or in the Rose Bowl.

I thought this was the year the Rose is forced to take a Boise type team...

JD720 · 09-03-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lilzaphod

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Originally Posted by newsbreaker

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilzaphod

If we win out and get fucked out of the rose, I think we as a collective fan base, should go to the BCS and take a shit on their doorstep.

I'll even eat a combo of Mexican and Indian food mixed with fiber pills for the event.

Won't happen. If Iowa throws a regular season 12 on the board, there is no way we don't play for either the NC or in the Rose Bowl.

I thought this was the year the Rose is forced to take a Boise type team...

Only if a Pac/Big ten team plays in the national championship. Boise won't get in before the Big Ten Champ, but they might get in before a Big ten runner up.

lilzaphod · 09-03-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JD720

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilzaphod

Quote:

Originally Posted by newsbreaker

Won't happen. If Iowa throws a regular season 12 on the board, there is no way we don't play for either the NC or in the Rose Bowl.

I thought this was the year the Rose is forced to take a Boise type team...

Only if a Pac/Big ten team plays in the national championship. Boise won't get in before the Big Ten Champ, but they might get in before a Big ten runner up.

You'd think that the Rose would take Iowa over Boise for the fan draw unless they absolutely had to take someone else.

Mo T · 09-03-2010, 01:58 PM

I don't think the Rose has trouble selling tickets no matter who is playing. I don't have attendance figures, but I don't ever remember seeing many empty seats for a bowl game.

MikeyJoe · 09-03-2010, 02:16 PM

Number of Rose Bowl appearances/wins isn't as meaningful of a metric anymore in the BCS-era.

Fry gets a lot of credit for reviving the program, and that can't be overstated. But Ferentz's resume looks awfully good next to Fry's, and he's still got a ways to go.

JD720 · 09-03-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lilzaphod

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD720

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilzaphod

I thought this was the year the Rose is forced to take a Boise type team...

Only if a Pac/Big ten team plays in the national championship. Boise won't get in before the Big Ten Champ, but they might get in before a Big ten runner up.

You'd think that the Rose would take Iowa over Boise for the fan draw unless they absolutely had to take someone else.

The Rose would definately prefer a Big Ten or Pac Ten team over Boise, but they agreed to this concession in the last BCS contract.

Mo T · 09-03-2010, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyJoe

Number of Rose Bowl appearances/wins isn't as meaningful of a metric anymore in the BCS-era.

I disagree. That is still the game that matters in the Big Ten.

lilzaphod · 09-03-2010, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo T

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyJoe

Number of Rose Bowl appearances/wins isn't as meaningful of a metric anymore in the BCS-era.

I disagree. That is still the game that matters in the Big Ten.

I agree with both of you, in parts.

I consider an Orange Bowl appearance the equivalent of a Rose Bowl appearance on the national stage, but the Rose will always have a bigger place in my heart.

The fact that we finally won the 'big' game last year should have dividends. Today's kids, for the most part, won't feel the same as us old timers do about the Rose. I just hope we don't end up with a Citiboyz Inc Part II.

MikeyJoe · 09-03-2010, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo T

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyJoe

Number of Rose Bowl appearances/wins isn't as meaningful of a metric anymore in the BCS-era.

I disagree. That is still the game that matters in the Big Ten.

You don't understand what I'm saying.

Of course going to the Rose bowl still matters. But you can't use the appearance as a metric in a period where another bowl has the option of selecting the Big 10 champ before the Rose Bowl does (see 2002).

Hayden has 3 Rose Bowl appearances, Kirk has 2 BCS bowl appearances.

Mo T · 09-03-2010, 02:31 PM

the problem with KF's regime is that he has never been the "Big dog" in the Big Ten. Although conference co-champions for two years, Iowa was not the premier team in the conference. HF had one year where his team was clearly the best.

2002, second to Ohio State
2004, second to Michigan
2009, second to Ohio State

MikeyJoe · 09-03-2010, 02:37 PM

Their resumes are actually pretty similar right now.

Coach	Fry	Ferentz
Years	20	11
Ovr Win%	.601	.596
B10 Win%	.598	.557
Bowls	14	8
Bowl%	.700	.727
Conf Title	3	2
Conf Title %	.150	.182
Bowl Win%	.429	.625
Yrs Ranked	10	5
Ranked %	.500	.455
Top 10	2	4
Top 10%	.100	.364

Right now, the main difference is Fry's longevity, and his lack of a truly awful year (Kirk's 1-11). Kirk's high end years are better than Fry's, and with anything other than a catastrophe this year he should surpass him in win%.

Judge Kemp · 09-03-2010, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danish_hawkeye

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilzaphod

Quote:

Originally Posted by danish_hawkeye

KF needs a rose bowl victory on his resume

If we win out and get fucked out of the rose, I think we as a collective fan base, should go to the BCS and take a shit on their doorstep.

I'll even eat a combo of Mexican and Indian food mixed with fiber pills for the event.

in

+1, but I'm not driving over with Zaph.

PipeDaddy · 09-03-2010, 06:11 PM

Couple of thoughts:

1) KF could surpass HF, but hasn't yet
2) While we all understand that the term "January bowl" means little anymore, I'd go so far as to say that it is dangerous to compare "BCS bowl" for KF to "Rose Bowl" for HF. They really aren't equivalent in terms of difficulty to achieve, although they are probably the best thing to compare other than perhaps Big Ten championships.
3) Evy is underrated

MikeyJoe · 09-03-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PipeDaddy

Couple of thoughts:

1) KF could surpass HF, but hasn't yet

If you could expound, what would it take for you to say he has? Other than the accumulation of things that come with longevity, when it comes to the rate at which he achieves certain things he's already surpassed Fry.

roseboundhawk · 09-03-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyJoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by PipeDaddy

Couple of thoughts:

1) KF could surpass HF, but hasn't yet

If you could expound, what would it take for you to say he has? Other than the accumulation of things that come with longevity, when it comes to the rate at which he achieves certain things he's already surpassed Fry.

I would say the fact that his Big Ten record is significantly worse, along with no Rose Bowls(you can say the Orange Bowl is the same, but that doesn't make it true), are the biggest factors.

Mr. Hawk · 09-03-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyJoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by PipeDaddy

Couple of thoughts:

1) KF could surpass HF, but hasn't yet

If you could expound, what would it take for you to say he has? Other than the accumulation of things that come with longevity, when it comes to the rate at which he achieves certain things he's already surpassed Fry.

agreed. i think HF had less to build with, but KF has achieved more imo.

PipeDaddy · 09-03-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyJoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by PipeDaddy

Couple of thoughts:

1) KF could surpass HF, but hasn't yet

If you could expound, what would it take for you to say he has? Other than the accumulation of things that come with longevity, when it comes to the rate at which he achieves certain things he's already surpassed Fry.

I said that KF hasn't surpassed him yet overall. I include several things in my rating.

Longevity related accomplishments
Resurrecting the program from nothingness
Assistant coaches ("Coaching tree")

As far as pure win-loss team accomplishments, it's probably a draw right now. With the notable exception of KF's record versus Iowa State.

Another couple of quality seasons (say, 9 or 10 wins), or a national title game, and KF surpasses HF in my mind. Assuming he stays, it's only a matter of time.

douglasbader · 09-03-2010, 09:22 PM

Assuming he stays? He is guaranteed to be here at least 3 more years at a minimum. There is no way he leaves while James is starting and playing. Isn't the youngest son pretty good at City High?

Fry and Ferentz are both legends at this point, but Kirk will go down as the greatest.

atemp · 11-27-2012, 12:53 PM

Desmond Howard says the contract is unbelievable.

http://hawkcentral.com/2012/11/27/br...-football-xxx/

Lime · 11-27-2012, 12:54 PM

please ban atemp as I thought this was a new story.

bigazzturkeylegs · 11-27-2012, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Match34

10 years? That's risky. I wonder what a buyout would cost Iowa.

DoeyHawk · 11-27-2012, 12:56 PM

Wow, we were a bunch of optimistic assholes going into the 2010 season.

MoneyPit · 11-27-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lime

please ban atemp as I thought this was a new story.

Agree. Temporary banning. My heart palpatated briefly.

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Match34 Is Not Funny Join Date: 10:51 AM August 26th, 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 19,318	10 years? That's risky. I wonder what a buyout would cost Iowa.

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Corporate Raider Join Date: 09:30 AM December 24th, 2008 Posts: 4,112	Well deserved and would still be a bargain at twice the price.

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The Tin Man Join Date: 09:24 AM August 27th, 2007 Location: Oz Posts: 7,097	Might as well just make it a lifetime contract. Ferentz will be our coach for as long as he wants to be. __________________ There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final total catastrophe of the currency involved. - Ludwig von Mises

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Pinehawk Join Date: 08:31 AM August 27th, 2007 Posts: 5,021	This tells me that Ferentz is pleased with where the Big 10 is going. If he had concerns about the future of the conference or the new division set up, he might not have gone for an extension right now.

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lilzaphod Join Date: 10:56 AM August 27th, 2007 Posts: 18,892	Been chewing on this one for a while now. Honest question - outside of Hayden bringing back a door mat into respectability, when will it be ok to start talking about KF in the same manner as we do HF? Hayden gets the nod now for reviving the team, the scrambled eggs hat, the white pants after labor day, and that mean mother trucking moustache. But I gotta say, KF is getting really close as far as resume. He's won the big game (OB), he's taken the teams almost as high at HF (how many #8s now at end of season? 3-4?), and his tenure is going to be longer than loog or Delaney. Hayden had the #1 vs #2 team win, and I'll always love him, but I gotta say that KF is going to surpass Mr. Hokey Pokey, and it may be this season. __________________ "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence." George Washington ~~~~ MIAB - L ~~~~

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TH1974 Join Date: 12:40 PM August 26th, 2007 Location: Location! Location! Posts: 17,986	KF > HF __________________

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danish_hawkeye Not a Cool Kid. Not in the Inner Circle of Trust Join Date: 09:26 AM October 1st, 2007 Posts: 12,964	KF needs a rose bowl on his resume

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Mo T Sports Guru Join Date: 06:45 AM October 22nd, 2007 Location: The Hills Posts: 25,860	I don't think the Rose has trouble selling tickets no matter who is playing. I don't have attendance figures, but I don't ever remember seeing many empty seats for a bowl game.

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MikeyJoe Has a Big Head Join Date: 12:06 PM August 26th, 2007 Posts: 41,201	Number of Rose Bowl appearances/wins isn't as meaningful of a metric anymore in the BCS-era. Fry gets a lot of credit for reviving the program, and that can't be overstated. But Ferentz's resume looks awfully good next to Fry's, and he's still got a ways to go.

09-03-2010, 02:31 PM	#37
Mo T Sports Guru Join Date: 06:45 AM October 22nd, 2007 Location: The Hills Posts: 25,860	the problem with KF's regime is that he has never been the "Big dog" in the Big Ten. Although conference co-champions for two years, Iowa was not the premier team in the conference. HF had one year where his team was clearly the best. 2002, second to Ohio State 2004, second to Michigan 2009, second to Ohio State

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PipeDaddy Nanny State Leach Enabler Join Date: 05:04 PM August 23rd, 2007 Posts: 27,964	Couple of thoughts: 1) KF could surpass HF, but hasn't yet 2) While we all understand that the term "January bowl" means little anymore, I'd go so far as to say that it is dangerous to compare "BCS bowl" for KF to "Rose Bowl" for HF. They really aren't equivalent in terms of difficulty to achieve, although they are probably the best thing to compare other than perhaps Big Ten championships. 3) Evy is underrated

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douglasbader Thinks Tom Cruise is a Great Actor Join Date: 09:03 AM August 3rd, 2008 Posts: 31,705	Assuming he stays? He is guaranteed to be here at least 3 more years at a minimum. There is no way he leaves while James is starting and playing. Isn't the youngest son pretty good at City High? Fry and Ferentz are both legends at this point, but Kirk will go down as the greatest. __________________ I'm so very sorry everyone. Please forgive me, it was all my fault!!

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atemp Join Date: 09:20 PM August 26th, 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,831	Desmond Howard says the contract is unbelievable. http://hawkcentral.com/2012/11/27/br...-football-xxx/

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