Baseball Hall of Fame

[Verbal]

This year's inductees, if any, will be announced today. Who gets in? Robbie Alomar & Bert Blyleven are thought to be headed in after narrow misses last year. Anyone else?

[nolookpass]

Originally Posted by Verbal

This year's inductees, if any, will be announced today. Who gets in? Robbie Alomar & Bert Blyleven are thought to be headed in after narrow misses last year. Anyone else?

if those two slugs get in theres no way Santo shouldnt be in.

[ISUFan98]

Originally Posted by nolookpass

if those two slugs get in theres no way Santo shouldnt be in.

Blyleven is a no-brainer, as is Alomar.

Santo should still be in, though.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by nolookpass

if those two slugs get in theres no way Santo shouldnt be in.

After further review of Santo's career, I tend to agree. However, his fate is in the hands of the Veteran's Committee now.

[Verbal]

I'll bet Bagwell comes close, and maybe even sneaks in on his first ballot. He has a sneaky-good HOF resume.

[ollie 4 iowa]

I see Alomar getting in. I was never a fan of his during his playing days, but when you look at his numbers you could make a great arguement that he does deserve it.
Bagwell probably gets close, but not sure if he gets in right now.

[brantshawks]

No way Alomar should get in if Will Clark isn't in.

[cjhawks]

Blyleven has been deserving for years. Santo as well.

I'm of the opinion that I don't want the veteran's committee to elect Santo. IMO, it would be a disservice to the man, and he was very vocal about not wanting to be elected post-mortem. Santo deserved to be in the Hall 10 years ago, and now that he has passed, he's all of a sudden good enough? Eff Joe Morgan and his veteran committee lackies. A majority of knowledgeable fans know that Santo should have already been in the Hall. Ron knew the fans knew it, which was good enough for him when he was passed over repeatedly.

But I will be happy for Bert when he gets the call today. About time for him.

[ISUFan98]

Originally Posted by cjhawks

Blyleven has been deserving for years. Santo as well.

I'm of the opinion that I don't want the veteran's committee to elect Santo. IMO, it would be a disservice to the man, and he was very vocal about not wanting to be elected post-mortem. Santo deserved to be in the Hall 10 years ago, and now that he has passed, he's all of a sudden good enough? Eff Joe Morgan and his veteran committee lackies.

But I will be happy for Bert when he gets the call today. About time for him.

Yeah, if anything the voting process has been shown to be a sham for quite some time now.

[Verbal]

Veteran's Committee voted last month and selected former GM Pat Gillick, so there will be no discussion of Santo again for another 11 months.

[ollie 4 iowa]

I am getting excited for baseball already.

[cjhawks]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Veteran's Committee voted last month and selected former GM Pat Gillick, so there will be no discussion of Santo again for another 11 months.

Like I said earlier, I hope they don't bring him up for discussion then either. Ron deserved to go in when he was alive. His stats haven't changed since his death.

[ISUFan98]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Veteran's Committee voted last month and selected former GM Pat Gillick, so there will be no discussion of Santo again for another 11 months.

Santo wasn't even one of the finalists.

The entire process is a joke. Someone like Bill Mazeroski is good enough to be in the Hall because of basically one moment in his career, while a guy who was a perennial All-Star while having diabetes isn't.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by ollie 4 iowa

I am getting excited for baseball already.

+eleventy billion. I would forego the remainder of the football season and the entire NCAA tournament if it meant Opening Day was tomorrow. Hawkeye football is the only thing that even comes close on the register of sports that I care about anymore.

I agree with cj and ISU on Santo, as well. If they select him, I hope his family tells Joe Morgan & Co. to eff off.

[Match34]

I'd rather have a discussion about fantasy football than a discussion about any hall of fame. You boring-ass losers.

[cjhawks]

Originally Posted by Verbal

+eleventy billion. I would forego the remainder of the football season and the entire NCAA tournament if it meant Opening Day was tomorrow. Hawkeye football is the only thing that even comes close on the register of sports that I care about anymore.

Agree w/ this.

[ollie 4 iowa]

Originally Posted by Verbal

+eleventy billion. I would forego the remainder of the football season and the entire NCAA tournament if it meant Opening Day was tomorrow. Hawkeye football is the only thing that even comes close on the register of sports that I care about anymore.

I agree with cj and ISU on Santo, as well. If they select him, I hope his family tells Joe Morgan & Co. to eff off.

Very well put. I'm not too interested in the NFL. NBA means nothing to me. I like March Madness, but not as much as opening day of baseball!

[boneshawk]

Originally Posted by brantshawks

Will Clark

Dude should get in on his swing alone.

[Uff Da]

Originally Posted by boneshawk

Dude should get in on his swing alone.

Barry Larkin should get in.

[ISUFan98]

Originally Posted by boneshawk

Dude should get in on his swing alone.

If Will Clark goes in, you might as well throw in John Olerud and Mark Grace.

[brantshawks]

Originally Posted by ISUFan98

If Will Clark goes in, you might as well throw in John Olerud and Mark Grace.

Grace is overrated and Olerud is such a sissy that he wore a helmet while playing the field.

[ISUFan98]

Originally Posted by brantshawks

Grace is overrated and Olerud is such a sissy that he wore a helmet while playing the field.

Rickey Henderson thinks he used to play with someone who wore a helmet in the field.

[Match34]

Will Clark is a renowned racist. He makes Jeff Kent look like a decent human being.

That said, it shouldn't affect his Hall of Fame chances. But it probably does (whatever chance there may have been, at least). Which is why the Hall of Fame is stupid and not worth fretting over.

[boneshawk]

Originally Posted by brantshawks

Grace is overrated and Olerud is such a sissy that he wore a helmet while playing the field.

Satan, this is Brant. Brant, meet Satan.

[boneshawk]

Originally Posted by Match34

Will Clark is a renowned racist. He makes Jeff Kent look like a decent human being.

Bravo!

[Hawk24]

Originally Posted by ISUFan98

Rickey Henderson thinks he used to play with someone who wore a helmet in the field.

I love that story! (even though it might not be true)

[ISUFan98]

Originally Posted by Hawk24

I love that story! (even though it might not be true)

Yeah, much like Mama Cass choking to death on a ham sandwich (which also wasn't true), I'm going to go ahead and say it really happened.

"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."

[brantshawks]

Originally Posted by boneshawk

Satan, this is Brant. Brant, meet Satan.

[Edgecrusher7711]

Alomar, Blyleven and Raines should go in. But it most likely will be Alomar and Blyleven.

Santo should also go in and probably will now that he's died. F'n HOF process blows ass.


And I know most of you hate numbers but here's the all time rankings based off of Bill James' formula.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le..._monitor.shtml

[brantshawks]

Originally Posted by Edgecrusher7711

Alomar, Blyleven and Raines should go in. But it most likely will be Alomar and Blyleven.

Santo should also go in and probably will now that he's died. F'n HOF process blows ass.


And I know most of you hate numbers but here's the all time rankings based off of Bill James' formula.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le..._monitor.shtml

I will not sleep until Jim McCormick is in the Hall.

[Perham1]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I'll bet Bagwell comes close, and maybe even sneaks in on his first ballot. He has a sneaky-good HOF resume.

I'll bet Bagwell doesn't come close and definitely doesn't sneak in on his first ballot.

He does not have a "sneaky-good" HoF resume. He will probably get elected in a few years, but not now.

[cjhawks]

Originally Posted by Edgecrusher7711

Alomar, Blyleven and Raines should go in. But it most likely will be Alomar and Blyleven.

Santo should also go in and probably will now that he's died. F'n HOF process blows ass.


And I know most of you hate numbers but here's the all time rankings based off of Bill James' formula.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le..._monitor.shtml

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Santo can only get in through the Veteran's ballot I believe.

[bigazzturkeylegs]

Bert made it.

[Match34]

[Edgecrusher7711]

Originally Posted by cjhawks

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Santo can only get in through the Veteran's ballot I believe.

Yes. And that is also a stupid part of the process. Either he's a HOFer or not. He is. And should already be in. We shouldn't need this f'n Veteran's ballot.

[cjhawks]

Originally Posted by Edgecrusher7711

Yes. And that is also a stupid part of the process. Either he's a HOFer or not. He is. And should already be in. We shouldn't need this f'n Veteran's ballot.

Agree 1,000%. But the veteran's ballot makes guys like Joe Morgan think they still mean something in baseball.

[ISUFan98]

Originally Posted by Edgecrusher7711

Yes. And that is also a stupid part of the process. Either he's a HOFer or not. He is. And should already be in. We shouldn't need this f'n Veteran's ballot.

The fact they only vote every two years for the Veterans' Committee makes it even worse.

But I'm glad to see Blyleven got in. It's long overdue, and the idiots who cited his career record as a reason for him not getting in can now shut it.

[Mo T]

Originally Posted by Edgecrusher7711

Raines should go in.

How do you feel about steroid players?

It will be interesting to see guys who used cocaine get passes, but guys who used steroids continue to be shunned.

[HFBM]

tim raines DEFINITELY belongs in the hall. the hawk needs someone else to wear the same cap.

[ISUFan98]

Originally Posted by HFBM

tim raines DEFINITELY belongs in the hall. the hawk needs someone else to wear the same cap.

You mean besides this guy?

[Edgecrusher7711]

Originally Posted by Mo T

How do you feel about steroid players?

It will be interesting to see guys who used cocaine get passes, but guys who used steroids continue to be shunned.

Jim Caple basically sums up my feelings on "cheating".

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...g&sportCat=mlb

[HFBM]

Originally Posted by ISUFan98

You mean besides this guy?

i had forgotten ole perm boy wore the 'spos cap too. d'oh.