If Ferentz took NFL job

[jabberja]

Would you be okay with that? We used to freak out when Mortensen reported that he'd accepted NFL jobs.


Probably the first that I've really wanted it to happen. I like the guy, but lots of other coaches could get us 7-5 and occasionally compete for Big Ten titles.

I don't want him fired. Just wouldn't mind if he moved on.

[nolookpass]

hes not going to the nfl. he is smart enough to know he isn't built for the pressure of being an nfl head guy.

[jabberja]

Originally Posted by nolookpass

hes not going to the nfl. he is smart enough to know he isn't built for the pressure of being an nfl head guy.

You're probably right. I honestly like the guy. I'd want him to succeed in the NFL.

I'm convinced that Iowa Football will not become Iowa Basketball.

[AZmess]

Originally Posted by nolookpass

hes not going to the nfl. he is smart enough to know he isn't built for the pressure of being an nfl head guy.

I think that would be down the list of reasons why he wouldn't leave.

[valp0guy]

I don't fall into the Monster/ESS camp of "Holy shit we're doomed, DOOMED, if Feretnz leaves Iowa".

[jabberja]

Originally Posted by valp0guy

I don't fall into the Monster/ESS camp of "Holy shit we're doomed, DOOMED, if Feretnz leaves Iowa".

They suffer from Tom Davis Syndrome. I understand the fear that we may get worse. I think the odds are agaisnt it, however.

[AZmess]

Originally Posted by valp0guy

I don't fall into the Monster/ESS camp of "Holy shit we're doomed, DOOMED, if Feretnz leaves Iowa".

I think they fall into the "careful what you wish for" category.

[BBK]

This is a thread about something that will never happen.

[AZmess]

Originally Posted by jabberja

They suffer from Tom Davis Syndrome. I understand the fear that we may get worse. I think the odds are agaisnt it, however.

You never know though.

Look, the man is our coach. He ain't leaving. When and if he does, Iowa will have a long list of qualified candidates for the job. Its just not a guarantee that it will work. With KF, you at least know what you're going to get.

[jabberja]

Originally Posted by AZmess

You never know though.

Look, the man is our coach. He ain't leaving. When and if he does, Iowa will have a long list of qualified candidates for the job. Its just not a guarantee that it will work. With KF, you at least know what you're going to get.

That type of answer reminds me of the playcalling at the end of 2009 Iowa-OSU.

[AZmess]

Originally Posted by jabberja

That type of answer reminds me of the playcalling at the end of 2009 Iowa-OSU.

I'm just explaining the argument. I didn't say I agreed with it.

[nolookpass]

Kirk has another kid whos a junior or senior. Im sure he wants him to start at center like his brothers. the only way he leaves is if it is apparent that kid cant play D1 level and Kirk decides he needs to further Brians coaching career in the nfl.

[FrodoTBaggin]

I don't think Brian's career as a coach in the NFL is at all dependent on Kirk leaving to coach in the NFL.

[nolookpass]

Originally Posted by FrodoTBaggin

I don't think Brian's career as a coach in the NFL is at all dependent on Kirk leaving to coach in the NFL.

its not dependant but certainly has gotten a leg up based on who his dad is. As it would if Kirk was a HC and BF had a bigger position on the staff.

[Monster]

Originally Posted by valp0guy

I don't fall into the Monster/ESS camp of "Holy shit we're doomed, DOOMED, if Feretnz leaves Iowa".

I never said that. If you think that's what I've been saying, then you aren't very bright.

Well, you aren't very bright anyway.

[AZmess]

Originally Posted by Monster

I never said that. If you think that's what I've been saying, then you aren't very bright.

Well, you aren't very bright anyway.

C'mon Monster, you're better than that.

[douglasbader]

Originally Posted by AZmess

I think they fall into the "careful what you wish for" category.

Yep. I don't think Iowa would be doomed, but I would be awfully nervous, especially right now.

Now is not the time you want Ferentz leaving. First of all, you have way too many major players back on the scene and even secondary players who are going to get an upgrade.

I wouldn't want to be losing Ferentz at this point with Urban Meyer taking the job today at Ohio State, Brady Hoke coming off a 10-2 BCS season with a insane recruiting class, Nebraska just joining the Conference, Wisconsin and Michigan State in the Big Ten Championship game and a new coach at Illinois.

Iowa would be left out of the mix. Right now, for this year, Iowa is going to have somewhat of an advantage in recruiting its key areas. It will take Illinois and Penn State at least another year to get up and running and you don't want to lose your coach and fall behind Wisconsin and Michigan State for recruits if you don't bring in a big splash of a hire.

[douglasbader]

Also, Kirk ain't leaving until at least next year. No way he leaves his son at Iowa for his senior year to go take an NFL job.

[douglasbader]

Has anyone seen the list of coaches that Illinois is working off of to replace Zook?

Steve Addazio
Paul Chryst
Skip Holtz
Butch Jones
Mike Leach
Paul Rhoads
Kevin Sumlin

Yikes. Now there certainly could be a great coach on that list, but don't think that Iowa would be working off all that different of a list if Ferentz left tomorrow.

Unless you have a pipe dream miracle that comes through like Bob Stoops, be careful what you wish for. This is a different era from when Ferentz was hired in 1999 and the stakes are much higher in the Big Ten.

I would be sick to my stomach if that was my list of replacements for Coaches at this point for Illinois.

[cjhawks]

FWIW - Steve Addazio did a helluva job at Temple this year.

But I generally agree w/ you doug

[L. Wade Childress]

his youngest is not a D-1 player.

if KF leaves, i want it to be this year or next when the bloom is off the stoops rose a bit and he may be feeling underappreciated by OU fans.

[OiT]

I would be ok with it, then hire chuck long as head coach.

[valp0guy]

Originally Posted by Monster

I never said that. If you think that's what I've been saying, then you aren't very bright.

Well, you aren't very bright anyway.

[Herky823]

Originally Posted by OiT

I would be ok with it, then hire chuck long as head coach.

I was going to seriously reply to this, but then I realized it was posted by the guy who most likely would have football players wear tinfoil helmets.

[douglasbader]

Originally Posted by OiT

I would be ok with it, then hire chuck long as head coach.

Chuck Long has been a disaster as a coach.

[bigazzturkeylegs]

Originally Posted by OiT

I would be ok with it, then hire chuck long as head coach.

This is the craziest thing you have ever posted.

[nolookpass]

Originally Posted by L. Wade Childress

his youngest is not a D-1 player.

if KF leaves, i want it to be this year or next when the bloom is off the stoops rose a bit and he may be feeling underappreciated by OU fans.

Im guessing plenty of people said the same thing about the two older boys.

[jabberja]

Originally Posted by douglasbader

Has anyone seen the list of coaches that Illinois is working off of to replace Zook?

Steve Addazio
Paul Chryst
Skip Holtz
Butch Jones
Mike Leach
Paul Rhoads
Kevin Sumlin

Yikes. Now there certainly could be a great coach on that list, but don't think that Iowa would be working off all that different of a list if Ferentz left tomorrow.

Unless you have a pipe dream miracle that comes through like Bob Stoops, be careful what you wish for. This is a different era from when Ferentz was hired in 1999 and the stakes are much higher in the Big Ten.

I would be sick to my stomach if that was my list of replacements for Coaches at this point for Illinois.

Illinois would be lucky to get any of those people listed. Chryst is probably their best shot.

[bigazzturkeylegs]

Originally Posted by nolookpass

Im guessing plenty of people said the same thing about the two older boys.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone question Brian or James' talent at center.

[L. Wade Childress]

Originally Posted by nolookpass

Im guessing plenty of people said the same thing about the two older boys.

per usual, you guess wrong

[OiT]

Originally Posted by douglasbader

Chuck Long has been a disaster as a coach.

I said "ok" with it, not really excited about it. Of course, I think BJ Armstrong or Bobby Hanson should be coaching the b-ball team, so there's that.

[jabberja]

Originally Posted by OiT

I said "ok" with it, not really excited about it. Of course, I think BJ Armstrong or Bobby Hanson should be coaching the b-ball team, so there's that.

And a really good Iowa wrestler should coach the wrestling squad.

[scottsdalehawk]

I vote for C-Kirk stays as long as he likes but makes staff changes when needed.

[cjhawks]

Originally Posted by nolookpass

Im guessing plenty of people said the same thing about the two older boys.

I thought it was pretty well known that James would have been heavily recruited if he was considering playing for someone other than his father.

Wasn't he an above average to high rated prospect as an O-Lineman out of HS?

[jabberja]

Originally Posted by scottsdalehawk

I vote for C-Kirk stays as long as he likes but makes staff changes when needed.

The rest of us have accepted that your scenario is not an option.

[atemp]

Illinois is a crap job. You want to see a terrible fan/alumni base, look no further.

[scottsdalehawk]

Originally Posted by jabberja

The rest of us have accepted that your scenario is not an option.

I'm going to wait until the season ends to make a decision on that.

[OiT]

Originally Posted by atemp

Illinois is a crap job. You want to see a terrible fan/alumni base, look no further.

It shouldn't be, it should be one of the better big ten teams with chicago and maybe st loiuis to recruit from. maybe indy. I don't get it. maybe michigan to recruit from, and ohio. this thing should be good.

[atemp]

Originally Posted by OiT

It shouldn't be, it should be one of the better big ten teams with chicago and maybe st loiuis to recruit from. maybe indy. I don't get it. maybe michigan to recruit from, and ohio. this thing should be good.

It's not. Chicago is a professional sports town. University of Illinois Athletics is Page 4 news....if anything, Notre Dame and Northwestern get just as much publicity. Illinois Basketball gets substantially more notoriety than their Football program.

If you asked 30 knowledgeable college football coaches with no ties to either Iowa or Illinois, I would guess that over 80 percent of them would take the Iowa job. Better facilities and fan base.

Iowa has way more money within their Athletic Department as well.

[Hawkeye_Pierce]

Originally Posted by douglasbader

Yep. I don't think Iowa would be doomed, but I would be awfully nervous, especially right now.

Now is not the time you want Ferentz leaving. First of all, you have way too many major players back on the scene and even secondary players who are going to get an upgrade.

I wouldn't want to be losing Ferentz at this point with Urban Meyer taking the job today at Ohio State, Brady Hoke coming off a 10-2 BCS season with a insane recruiting class, Nebraska just joining the Conference, Wisconsin and Michigan State in the Big Ten Championship game and a new coach at Illinois.

Iowa would be left out of the mix. Right now, for this year, Iowa is going to have somewhat of an advantage in recruiting its key areas. It will take Illinois and Penn State at least another year to get up and running and you don't want to lose your coach and fall behind Wisconsin and Michigan State for recruits if you don't bring in a big splash of a hire.

I'm beyond tired of KF but you raise some valid points. Now would be a very bad time for a new coaching hire. If nothing else, we can sell stability to recruits.

Also, I agree that our list of candidates would probably resemble the Illni's which is pretty underwhelming.

The best possible scenario would be for Norm Parker to step down and to replace him with a football junky/recruiting marvel. Then, show O'Keefe the door next year, replace him, and cede play-calling/game management to the new OC.

Right now, KF is still a positive in terms of national reputation. What you need is for him become more of a program supervisor and to surround himself with solid coordinators that are given license to run their own systems and who are willing to work their ass off on the recruiting trail.

Alas, this will never happen. KF puts his loyalty to his assistants ahead of the team and program. At his age and with his tenure, he probably doesn't want to deal with anything resembling a program shake-up. He has grown fat and complacent and as a result, we can expect more frustrating years ahead.

[Vepr]

Although he is irritating sometimes (clock management and over conservative nature) I still don't want to see him go. I think he has been good for the program. With a few philosophy tweaks and some coaching changes I think he will continue to be good or maybe even great coach (with some changes).

[Monster]

As many people have pointed out over the years, getting rid of kok doesn't necessarily change or improve play calling. KF pulls the strings in that regard.

[Southsidehawk]

Originally Posted by Monster

As many people have pointed out over the years, getting rid of kok doesn't necessarily change or improve play calling. KF pulls the strings in that regard.

You can't say it enough Monster. People just don't believe it.

[Kerky]

[QUOTE=Hawkeye_Pierce;1519635]

Originally Posted by douglasbader

Right now, KF is still a positive in terms of national reputation. What you need is for him become more of a program supervisor and to surround himself with solid coordinators that are given license to run their own systems and who are willing to work their ass off on the recruiting trail.

Sounds like our version of Joe Pa

[OiT]

Originally Posted by Monster

As many people have pointed out over the years, getting rid of kok doesn't necessarily change or improve play calling. KF pulls the strings in that regard.

I wonder about this. I give KF more credit than this, some of those play calls are from morons.

[Monster]

Originally Posted by OiT

I wonder about this. I give KF more credit than this, some of those play calls are from morons.

LOL. Like you would know better calls?

The conservative nature of he calls stem from KF. If it was left completely up to kok, you'd see the Hawks take more chances and more wide open play.

[Kerky]

I am very surprised at this poll results. Over 70% wouldn't mind KF leaving? He has is issues, but do you people really think you can improve on the entire package of what he brings to the table?

Take Bob Stoops out of the equation, which guy would you want to be HC at Iowa using some common sense as to who would be willing and available?

[scottsdalehawk]

Originally Posted by Kerky

I am very surprised at this poll results. Over 70% wouldn't mind KF leaving? He has is issues, but do you people really think you can improve on the entire package of what he brings to the table?

Take Bob Stoops out of the equation, which guy would you want to be HC at Iowa using some common sense as to who would be willing and available?

I voted no mainly because of the uncertainty that surrounds a coaching search. The grass isn't always greener.

[douglasbader]

Lol at this boad. Everyone bitches and moans about Ferentz and his salary, but then swears up and down they don't want Ferentz to leave and only want changes with the staff, but when put to a poll over 70% wouldn't mind seeing him leave.

Laughable.

[douglasbader]

I was promised up and down by Pipe and others nobody wants Ferentz gone!