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Bill Seaberg was calm and confident under pressure on the basketball court.

Those traits helped the University of Iowa's 1955-56 "Fabulous Five" basketball team record the first 20-win season in school history, win a second straight Big Ten title, and finish as national-runner-up to San Francisco.

The five senior starters on that team — Seaberg, Bill Logan, Carl Cain, Sharm Scheuerman, and Bill Schoof — had their numbers retired after the season.

Seaberg's No. 22 hasn't appeared for 63 seasons and 1,845 games, but that's about to change. Seaberg has agreed to let incoming freshman forward Patrick McCaffery wear No. 22 starting next season. Once Patrick's Iowa career ends, the number will go back into retirement.

When Iowa head coach Fran McCaffery was at Siena, son Patrick's favorite player was Ryan Rossiter. He wore No. 22, so that became Patrick's favorite number.

But this is a story that runs deeper than a favorite number.

"Way deeper than that," Patrick said. "It's not just a number. No way. It's always going to mean a lot to me."

Patrick and Austin "Flash" Schroeder attended North Central (Iowa) Junior High together. Austin, a year older, favored baseball. Patrick's sport was basketball. Austin's favorite number was also 22.

And cancer touched both of their lives.

Patrick had surgery on March 19, 2014, to remove a tumor on his thyroid. On that same day, while on a family spring break trip to Mexico, Austin discovered a large lump in his groin.

Two days after Patrick's surgery, doctors informed his family that the tumor was malignant. A second surgery was scheduled in April. That month, Austin started chemotherapy for T-Cell lymphoma.

Austin was 15 when he passed away on April 28, 2015. Patrick is a cancer survivor. He wore No. 22 throughout his Iowa City West career, when he passed former Hawkeye Glen Worley as the Trojans' career scoring leader.

But wearing No. 22 is also a way for Patrick to honor his friend, Flash. Thanks to Seaberg's kindness, that tribute will continue in college.

Iowa assistant coach Kirk Speraw, who knows Seaberg, was the first to reach out to the former Hawkeye and see if he would consider making his number available.

"According to Kirk, he's an outstanding kid as well as a good basketball player," said Seaberg, who lives in Evergreen, Colorado.

Seaberg agreed to let Patrick wear it, with the stipulation that it return to retired status after McCaffery's playing career ends at Iowa.

"I thought if it would be helpful to the kid and mentally makes him stronger and a better player, that's what I want to do," Seaberg said.

Patrick wrote Seaberg a letter, explaining what No. 22 means to him.

"He wanted to honor his friend and also honor my number at the same time," Seaberg said. "If that makes him a better player, then that's great for Iowa basketball."

Patrick said that writing the letter stirred memories of his late friend.

"I've been able to come to peace with it and remember what a special number it is," Patrick said.

He added that Seaberg's permission to wear the number "means everything. That number is special to me and now I get to wear it at the next level. Mr. Seaberg is a great man. He was very generous in letting me wear that number."

Fran McCaffery appreciates Seaberg's act of kindness.

"It was amazing when I talked to Bill, how it made me feel," coach McCaffery said. "It's important to him that his number is retired and he earned that right. I think when Patrick presented to Bill the circumstances around the number, he felt strongly that Patrick should have the opportunity to wear that number."

So, No. 22 will be back, more than six decades after Seaberg scored 17 points in the national championship game March 23, 1956, in Evanston, Illinois. That is something Seaberg said he'll feel good about, "as long as he does it in good faith and respects the number and what it stands for."

That request for respect has been heard.

"That's important to Bill, because he wore it with respect," coach McCaffery said. "If anybody else is going to wear it, you want that person to wear it with the same ideology that he had, the same approach, and the same professionalism.

"I'm thrilled that Bill was excited to do it. He didn't have to be talked into it. He thought, 'You know, this is the right thing to do.' The beauty of it is when Patrick's done, it will go back to being retired."
Great story. I cannot wait for IowaFan to bitch and complain about Patrick's career at Iowa.
It is a nice story. I’m fully on record that I am not optimistic about his iowa future but I desperately want to be wrong. I like his attitude I just can’t envision a position for him.
 

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What are your expectations of Pat?
High energy bench guy that uses his length to defend and disrupt his freshman year.

Depending on his development, maybe he surprises and can be a legit SF and start his sophomore year and Wieskamp slides to SG. Toussaint / Wieskamp / Patrick / Nunge / Garza

The more realistic scenario is he continues to be a high energy bench player his 2nd year and then is starting as a Jr/Sr.
 
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Great story. I cannot wait for IowaFan to bitch and complain about Patrick's career at Iowa.
It is a nice story. I’m fully on record that I am not optimistic about his iowa future but I desperately want to be wrong. I like his attitude I just can’t envision a position for him.
Aaron White and Nicholas Baer. For like 7 years of Fran's tenure we've had players who have had success with many physical similarities. Now imagine that he's way more skilled and athletic than Baer was and probably ahead of where White was. He probably weighs something like 10-15 pounds less right now than White did when he got here.

I'm also not sure that you desperately want to be wrong. You've been saying Patrick won't be any good for a couple of years and have been crazy over the top on the Connor/Fran nepotism angle. More than nolook.
 

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I've said for about 3 years now that Patrick reminds me a lot of Sam Dekker. He is a bit thinner than Dekker in high school, but even more athletic. It won't shock me if Patrick is eventually as good as Dekker was.

 

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I've said for about 3 years now that Patrick reminds me a lot of Sam Dekker. He is a bit thinner than Dekker in high school, but even more athletic. It won't shock me if Patrick is eventually as good as Dekker was.

Jesus. That dude was good.
 

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Great story. I cannot wait for IowaFan to bitch and complain about Patrick's career at Iowa.
It is a nice story. I’m fully on record that I am not optimistic about his iowa future but I desperately want to be wrong. I like his attitude I just can’t envision a position for him.
Aaron White and Nicholas Baer. For like 7 years of Fran's tenure we've had players who have had success with many physical similarities. Now imagine that he's way more skilled and athletic than Baer was and probably ahead of where White was. He probably weighs something like 10-15 pounds less right now than White did when he got here.

I'm also not sure that you desperately want to be wrong. You've been saying Patrick won't be any good for a couple of years and have been crazy over the top on the Connor/Fran nepotism angle. More than nolook.
I don’t think I’ve been down in him for that long and i would feel better if he would redshirt but I will admit that I could be jilted because I couldn’t stand watching Connor this year. I didn’t realize I was in nolook territory though.

What are your expectations of him? Similar to Doug’s?
 

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I've said for about 3 years now that Patrick reminds me a lot of Sam Dekker. He is a bit thinner than Dekker in high school, but even more athletic. It won't shock me if Patrick is eventually as good as Dekker was.

Jesus. That dude was good.
I watched that video and thought Dekker looked way smoother but you see Patrick as more athletic. Regardless there are some similarities there. I had never seen Dekker high school clips before
 
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I've said for about 3 years now that Patrick reminds me a lot of Sam Dekker. He is a bit thinner than Dekker in high school, but even more athletic. It won't shock me if Patrick is eventually as good as Dekker was.

If Patrick ends up being anywhere close to the player Dekker was at Wisconsin, that would be OK with me.
 

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One thing is certain, Sam Dekker is a faggot.
 
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Sherm is now following Notre Dame transfer guard DJ Harvey on Twitter. Harvery averaged 11ppg and 4rp on a bad Fighting Irish team. He was a sophomore last year.
 

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Looks like he's following Luka Garza. DC area native so that's the connection. He wears short shorts, and isn't as pasty as most on Iowa's roster.

Sign him up Fran
 

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That Hurt kid from MN committed to Duke.
His team got their asses handed to them in the section final. They lost by 34 points to Lakeville North led by Badger recruit Tyler Wahl.

Hurt had to be glad to see most of the Duke starters declare.
 

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I have no inside sources like some of the experts around here, but I have a feeling Moss is going to grad transfer after this season. I probably would if I were him after being a forgotten man time and time again.
This is fucking ridiculous, not because it couldn’t happen, but because of the reasoning why.
From Jan 19. Please feel free to eat my butt. Fucking pwned.
 

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I have no inside sources like some of the experts around here, but I have a feeling Moss is going to grad transfer after this season. I probably would if I were him after being a forgotten man time and time again.
This is fucking ridiculous, not because it couldn’t happen, but because of the reasoning why.
From Jan 19. Please feel free to eat my butt. Fucking pwned.
Actually, I turned out to be right on that.
 

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I had a feeling two weeks ago(!!) when Moss was subletting his apartment on his Instagram.

It’s a hit offensively, but Iowa should always be great to elite on offense while Fran is here. Hopefully Toussaint is ready to roll and the rumors about CJ Fredrick are legit. Fran is going to need both.
 

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I’m not sure I give a shit Moss is leaving. I probably like him more than most but I’m rewsdy to see what the team looks like without him and cook. Obviously more white but the extended minutes of guys already in the roster or incoming should be interesting
 

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Penny, Mike Miller, Sam Mitchell and staff are KILLING 2019 recruiting. Just got a commit from another 5* in Precious Achiuwa. Now have 7 of the top 108 players in the country committed (including #1) PLUS the #1 grad transfer. Gotta be pissing off some of the blue-bloods. (like ISU, har har)

https://247sports.com/college/memphis/Season/2019-Basketball/Commits/

Also, their coaching staff is loaded with former star players even more than I realized. https://gotigersgo.com/coaches.aspx?path=mbball&
 

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I didn’t realize hardaway was the head coach there
 

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Memphis is usually a pretty clean athletic program. This is shocking to me.
 

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Not Iowa related but his top three included Kansas so fuck them
 

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We are a long way from Patrick meeting Doug’s expectations. There is still time I guess.

and for the record I’m still all over the Fran nepotism angle because now it seems we have to have a mccaffery on the floor at all times.

Connor is going to be a solid player (never Top 25 nationally like ESPN had him, but Top 100 is more accurate), but Patrick is a legit stud. He looks like he might get to a legit 6'8'' tall with his frame and he is much more athletic and skilled.

He is in 8th grade and doing things a lot of good High School players can't do.
It looks like he launches off the kid, but even without that video he is dunking 2 handed and very easily in games. He can shoot, handle and is smart. If this video is legit and he didn't launch, then he is going to have some pretty elite athleticism for a white kid. I also think he gets to at least a legit 6'7'' or 6'8''.

He is going to be a legitimate stud.
Have Murray's kids gotten any pub?
Patrick is going to have elite level athleticism and you can tell he has a nasty streak to him. I like how he is a beanpole but dunks violent.

When he grows into his body and is stronger he is going to be a force.
Patrick looks like a poor man's Baer to me, w/out the spina bifida.

Which is fine, but not top 50ish.
He's a skilled player that seems way to skinny and not overly quick. A better shooting White is probably a good comparison as long as he runs the floor
Patrick dropping doesn’t surprise me at all. His numbers will be way down this summer due to the team he plays on. He’s still skinny af with no outside shot.
Unless he really bulks up I'll be surprised if he can rebound or get to the line like White could but he also seems like he might be able to shoot a bit, which White couldn't aside from that hot steak at the end of his senior year
Patrick is going to get all 19 of Baers minutes and I’m going to hate it
Patrick is going to score a shit load of points at Iowa. Remember all those alleyoops Aaron White used to dunk on fools? At the absolute least, Patrick can do that starting next year. He is also a better shooter. Why does anyone assume he will suck?

How can Iowa basketball fan be so dumb?

Also, Fran is going to make even the sane Iowa basketball fans stroke out with rotations next year.
I don’t see how Patrick contributes either, tbh.
Great story. I cannot wait for IowaFan to bitch and complain about Patrick's career at Iowa.
It is a nice story. I’m fully on record that I am not optimistic about his iowa future but I desperately want to be wrong. I like his attitude I just can’t envision a position for him.
Aaron White and Nicholas Baer. For like 7 years of Fran's tenure we've had players who have had success with many physical similarities. Now imagine that he's way more skilled and athletic than Baer was and probably ahead of where White was. He probably weighs something like 10-15 pounds less right now than White did when he got here.

I'm also not sure that you desperately want to be wrong. You've been saying Patrick won't be any good for a couple of years and have been crazy over the top on the Connor/Fran nepotism angle. More than nolook.
I've said for about 3 years now that Patrick reminds me a lot of Sam Dekker. He is a bit thinner than Dekker in high school, but even more athletic. It won't shock me if Patrick is eventually as good as Dekker was.

Patrick is going to be fun to watch.
Looks like he's following Luka Garza. DC area native so that's the connection. He wears short shorts, and isn't as pasty as most on Iowa's roster.

Sign him up Fran
 

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We are a long way from Patrick meeting Doug’s expectations. There is still time I guess.

and for the record I’m still all over the Fran nepotism angle because now it seems we have to have a mccaffery on the floor at all times.
Shame on Patrick for having complications from malignant cancer that has stunted his growth and development.

As far as Connor, he was ok to start but also missed an entire year sick and got stuck between 2 worlds and banged up to the point he had double hip surgery.

Oh well.
 

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The nepotism angle is just dumb as well. This isn't Lil' Lick running around out there and a couple of guys that everyone thought sucked and are only playing because daddy is the coach.

And yeah, as much as Patrick is frustrating and lost on defense, he's still averaging 11 points and 3.4 rebounds for a ranked level team. To act like he is a scrub is silly.
 

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Shame on Patrick for having complications from malignant cancer that has stunted his growth and development.

As far as Connor, he was ok to start but also missed an entire year sick and got stuck between 2 worlds and banged up to the point he had double hip surgery.

Oh well.
The cancer thing is fair but taking his physical development aside there are aspects of his game that such as defense and rebounding that often look like he’s not even trying. Just floating around. There are certainly still a couple years for that to change however but it’s not like Fran puts much emphasis there.

i wish Patrick had connors mentality.
 

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The cancer thing is fair but taking his physical development aside there are aspects of his game that such as defense and rebounding that often look like he’s not even trying. Just floating around. There are certainly still a couple years for that to change however but it’s not like Fran puts much emphasis there.

i wish Patrick had connors mentality.
I agree with all of that. Patrick is embarrassingly bad in certain aspects of the game and needs to show massive improvment.

The thing I don't agree with is any of the nepotism talk with Patrick. He was a highly ranked and skilled player that dozens of teams would have offered and given a scholarship. To call it nepotism on any level is some HawkeyeHeaven type stuff.
 
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