**2021-2022 Iowa Basketball Season Thread**

[L. Wade Childress]

pets can’t choke themselves to death with a short leash

 

[Alan Lomax]

pets can’t choke themselves to death with a short leash

That’s not right.

 

[CleteyColgate]

Uhlis should go too

But Ulis should stay

 

[Verbal]

pets can’t choke themselves to death with a short leash

Not with that attitude.

 

[BluesHawk]

Unitl the very end of the season I thought UIis was a better option at PG. He's very under control and needs to look to shoot more. He was very effective with Perkins on 2nd unit.

Obviously Bowen could be the starter from day one.

I thought Ulis was a fucking mess. Joe T has plenty of faults, but if I had a choice between the two, I'm taking the Key every time.

 

[BluesHawk]

Prove me wrong, Ulis!

 

[Westside Ray Ray]

Bowen can’t earn his 4 straight All-American honors without starting as a freshman.

Get Aidan Shaw and 1 year from now we’ll all be planning our Halo meet-up at the Final Four.

 

[neshawk]

Does this free up another covid year scholarship for Austin Ash?

 

[CamelTones]

I think Perkins starts at the point with Sandfort at the 2.

 

[BBK]

Connor is the starting point

Beat me to it. I'm still giggling

 

[BBK]

I think Perkins starts at the point with Sandfart at the 2.

Not necessarily what we had in mind, but:

Perkins
Sandfart
Patrick
Kris
Rebecca

...looks fine to me.

 

[tallperson54]

If this is our starting lineup next year I'll be pissed. And Iowa will be in the NIT.

Not necessarily what we had in mind, but:

Perkins
Sandfart
Patrick
Kris
Rebecca

...looks fine to me.

 

[BBK]

If this is our starting lineup next year I'll be pissed. And Iowa will be in the NIT.

No that's a pretty good team, homes

 

[Shpadoinkle]

This year taught me that I suck at predicting how a season will go, but that would hardly be one of Frans worst lineups.

 

[Lee Beevers]

We would be so awful defensively 1-3 there. Perkins is the only guy who can stay in front of his guy. If we play any team with a few good wings we would receive quite the butt fucking.

 

[Hawkstrat]

Sandfort held his own.

 

[Westside Ray Ray]

Bowen
Perkins
Pat
Shaw
Murray

fast, short, and faster.

HBO will make a show 30 years from now, Showtime: The Making of Fran the Man’s Statue and the Rise of the Juggernaut Iowa Hawkeyes

 

[AZmessDAWG]

If this is our starting lineup next year I'll be pissed. And Iowa will be in the NIT.

I’ll be super pissed too

 

[Westside Ray Ray]

Stay away Musselman.

 

[Debit One]

cant blame Joe. always had the short leash.

Always the fault of the coach.

 

[Debit One]

Just say no to Perkins at PG.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Just say no to Perkins at PG.

He kind of was for a good amount of time in our winning stretch.

 

[Shawneemicks]

Sign me up for Perkins at the point

 

[Stu Beagle]

Why the fuck is Connor coming back?

 

[Debit One]

He kind of was for a good amount of time in our winning stretch.

Good, yes.

PG, no.

 

[Swingin' Dick Stanzi]

Unitl the very end of the season I thought UIis was a better option at PG. He's very under control and needs to look to shoot more. He was very effective with Perkins on 2nd unit.

Obviously Bowen could be the starter from day one.

Ulis was one of the worst shooters in a high major conference last year. He shot 46% at the rim (terrible), 25% from midrange (horrendous), and 33% from three. He sure as shit didn’t need to look to shoot MORE.

 

[Hawkstrat]

I think Perkins was serviceable bringing the ball up the court, but I don't think they start him at point.

Ulis
Perkins
Pat
Murray
Rebraca

With Bowen eventually getting more minutes than Ulis.

I don't hate Rebraca, but I really wish Iowa had a better option.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Give Bowen the “keys” if you will

 

[Saul Berkley]

Ulis was one of the worst shooters in a high major conference last year. He shot 46% at the rim (terrible), 25% from midrange (horrendous), and 33% from three. He sure as shit didn’t need to look to shoot MORE.

I didn't see anything from Ulis that makes me believe he could be a starting PG in the BIG. Luckily, I think Bowen is going to be pretty good. I just hope he's pretty good from day one.

 

[Geese]

Why the fuck is Connor coming back?

To try and break JBos 3pt record

 

[KitKatApples]

Ha you fucker

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Good, yes.

PG, no.

I don’t think anyone would be hoping he’d be the guy there full time. But he was effective basically playing there in spurts this year and is further insurance for Bowen and Ulis along with Connor.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

I really like what I've watched of Bowen in the limited clips available, but it's a slippery slope of setting too high of expectations. I also had high hopes for Ulis. Recruiting wise they're pretty close to each other.

Player A: 247 - 3 star, 89 rating, #186 overall in class. Rivals - 4 star, #112 in class. ESPN - 3 star, 77 grade

Player B: 247 - 3 star, 89 rating, #148 overall in class. Rivals - 3 star, unranked in class. ESPN - 4 star, 82 grade

Iowa's best hope is Ulis takes a big step and Bowen is ready to contribute some minutes from game 1.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

There’s a pretty big gap in their offer list though. Bowen was also the priority PG in this class from early on and Ulis was a later offer.

 

[Stu Beagle]

I’m sure there will be no bitching next year about Connor taking minutes from better guards

 

[CleteyColgate]

There’s a pretty big gap in their offer list though. Bowen was also the priority PG in this class from early on and Ulis was a later offer.

"4 star Ulis was a fallback recruit" is a fucking Halo narrative, all right

 

[HiawathaHawk]

"4 star Ulis was a fallback recruit" is a fucking Halo narrative, all right

It really isn't. He didn't get offered until mid-July before his senior year and committed a few weeks later. His only other high major offer was DePaul. He wasn't top 150 until spring of his senior year.

 

[BBK]

While we are all guessing, Fran is already planning this lineup:

Connor
Perkins
Patrick
Kris
Rebecca

 

[Geese]

While we are all guessing, Fran is already planning this lineup:

Connor
Perkins
Patrick
Kris
Rebecca

Minute dist?

 

[BBK]

Minute dist?

Whatever Margaret decides

 

[Creed]

Ulis was much more under control than JoeT and plays very good on ball defense. He was a pretty good free throw shooter too which is good out of a PG. He absolutely sucked shit offensively though in every other manner as it relates to scoring.

 

[B19Rob]

I really like what I've watched of Bowen in the limited clips available, but it's a slippery slope of setting too high of expectations. I also had high hopes for Ulis. Recruiting wise they're pretty close to each other.

Player A: 247 - 3 star, 89 rating, #186 overall in class. Rivals - 4 star, #112 in class. ESPN - 3 star, 77 grade

Player B: 247 - 3 star, 89 rating, #148 overall in class. Rivals - 3 star, unranked in class. ESPN - 4 star, 82 grade

Iowa's best hope is Ulis takes a big step and Bowen is ready to contribute some minutes from game 1.

Player A: 6'8" 210 lb forward from a prep school 247 - 3 star, 89 rating, unranked overall in class. Rivals - 3 star, unranked. ESPN - unranked.

Player B: 6'8" 210 forward from a prep school 247 - 4 star, 96 rating, #54 overall in class. Rivals - 4 star, #44 in class. ESPN - 4 star, 89 grade, #31 in class.

Player A is obviously Keegan Murray, All-American and soon to be top 10 pick in the NBA draft. Player B is a fucking trash player whom none of you have ever heard of, Jaemyn Brakefield.

Recruiting rankings don't mean shit.

Bowen is the real deal and will be playing big minutes early. Fran's not letting Joe T leave if he isn't 100% sure he has a better player coming in.

 

[Will McCoy]

Player A: 6'8" 210 lb forward from a prep school 247 - 3 star, 89 rating, unranked overall in class. Rivals - 3 star, unranked. ESPN - unranked.

Player B: 6'8" 210 forward from a prep school 247 - 4 star, 96 rating, #54 overall in class. Rivals - 4 star, #44 in class. ESPN - 4 star, 89 grade, #31 in class.

Player A is obviously Keegan Murray, All-American and soon to be top 10 pick in the NBA draft. Player B is a fucking trash player whom none of you have ever heard of, Jaemyn Brakefield.

Recruiting rankings don't mean shit.

Bowen is the real deal and will be playing big minutes early. Fran's not letting Joe T leave if he isn't 100% sure he has a better player coming in.

This guy outed himself as a 5* culture > 5* ratings.

 

[BBK]

Player A: 6'8" 210 lb forward from a prep school 247 - 3 star, 89 rating, unranked overall in class. Rivals - 3 star, unranked. ESPN - unranked.

Player B: 6'8" 210 forward from a prep school 247 - 4 star, 96 rating, #54 overall in class. Rivals - 4 star, #44 in class. ESPN - 4 star, 89 grade, #31 in class.

Player A is obviously Keegan Murray, All-American and soon to be top 10 pick in the NBA draft. Player B is a fucking trash player whom none of you have ever heard of, Jaemyn Brakefield.

Recruiting rankings don't mean shit.

Bowen is the real deal and will be playing big minutes early. Fran's not letting Joe T leave if he isn't 100% sure he has a better player coming in.

Recruiting rankings do matter, especially in basketball.

Nothing in sports is an exact science homes, and for the example you provided there are a thousand in the other direction

 

[TurdBurgler]

More like trust frans eye. This was a guy he really wanted.

 

[B19Rob]

Recruiting rankings do matter, especially in basketball.

Nothing in sports is an exact science homes, and for the example you provided there are a thousand in the other direction

Once you get outside of the 5*, no-brainer, top 25 kids, it gets really damn messy. Looking at the rivals 2020 class, you have soon-to-be NBA lottery picks Jaden Ivey at 79th overall, Johnny Davis 134, Benedict Mathurin unranked 4 star (because he's Canadian), and Keegan an unranked 3 star. Recruiting rankings are far from an exact science.

 

[Squat Cobbler]

I'm curious why people think Bowen is the real deal other than Fran had him as a priority target early, which I admit is something. Is he a good three point shooter, lightning quick, or a great passer who doesn't turn it over? It's hard to tell much from a highlight tape. He does look like he has ability to get in the paint but still looks too thin for the Big Ten.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

Player A: 6'8" 210 lb forward from a prep school 247 - 3 star, 89 rating, unranked overall in class. Rivals - 3 star, unranked. ESPN - unranked.

Player B: 6'8" 210 forward from a prep school 247 - 4 star, 96 rating, #54 overall in class. Rivals - 4 star, #44 in class. ESPN - 4 star, 89 grade, #31 in class.

Player A is obviously Keegan Murray, All-American and soon to be top 10 pick in the NBA draft. Player B is a fucking trash player whom none of you have ever heard of, Jaemyn Brakefield.

Recruiting rankings don't mean shit.

Bowen is the real deal and will be playing big minutes early. Fran's not letting Joe T leave if he isn't 100% sure he has a better player coming in.

It's not as much about the rankings but about where they are at the same stage in their careers. Ulis played very sparingly last season and Bowen may not be ready to be the starting PG from day 1 like many here assume. Fran has had a lot of really good players who made small contributions their freshman season.

 

[Will McCoy]

Recruiting rankings are far from an exact science.

No shit Sherlock.

 

[MikeyJoe]

Recruiting rankings are not an exact science but there's also no way to know individually in advance when they're wrong, so rationally the only thing to conclude is that you'd generally prefer higher ranked players.