Do you want Fran to stay or go?

[ivan_drago]

He’s a Wisconsin fan and ISU graduate who posts on HaLo? He seems like a dumbass!

 

[Fletch]

Only made it through page 2. This thread is giving me cancer.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Only made it through page 2. This thread is giving me cancer.

you are lucky

 

[CamelTones]

Get a rim protecting big, a wing and hope Bowen or Harding are the pg you’ve always wanted.

 

[HzzzHawk]

Is this who you're talking about?

* whom

 

[ISUFan98]

You guys could be doing worse...

You could have Matt Painter.

 

[Natty Bumppo]

You guys could be doing worse...

You could have Matt Painter.

Yep - or Iowa could have Bizarro Fran: TJ Otzelberger.

 

[ISUFan98]

Yep - or Iowa could have Bizarro Fran: TJ Otzelberger.

Breed them and you'd have the perfect coach.

 

[Skinny Skier]

Breed them and you'd have the perfect coach.

Or the worst

 

[ISUFan98]

Or the worst

It could be like a Goldendoodle...the dumbest part of two different breeds.

 

[HzzzHawk]

Lot's of Group Text guys on that list.

to be fair, there are some group texters on the no side as well, including the sqok himself.

I will say that the get rid of Fran group texters, ex me, tend to be what I would call the anti-Doug faction

 

[Greg Obrecht]

I’ve changed my mind. I don’t hate Fran, and I would prefer that he leaves on his own accord, but his recruiting at the guard position flat out sucks.

 

[CleteyColgate]

I’ve changed my mind. I don’t hate Fran, and I would prefer that he leaves on his own accord, but his recruiting at the guard position flat out sucks.

His recruiting at the 5 position flat out sucks.

 

[The Full Monte]

Also, the fanbase is fine. The arena is a pain in the ass to get to and with late or early start times you basically have to live within a 30 minute drive and not have kids to go to most of the games.

There are way too many 8PM start times. Even if you love local, you’re talking about getting home around 11PM by the time you get out of there and drive. It’s a total bitch point, but it did keep me from going to a game or two late this year.

There are other, more significant obstacles. I just wanted to make sure I let everyone know I’m old AF and didn’t like it

 

[Stu Beagle]

I think the main/older fan base is comparable to most douche teams. It’s the student section that’s awful and maybe the worst in the conference that’s the real problem with the atmosphere

 

[6deuce]

I think the main/older fan base is comparable to most douche teams. It’s the student section that’s awful and maybe the worst in the conference that’s the real problem with the atmosphere

That's on the AD for not getting them there.

 

[The Full Monte]

I think the main/older fan base is comparable to most douche teams. It’s the student section that’s awful and maybe the worst in the conference that’s the real problem with the atmosphere

Fran has tried for years to make changes to this. He’s gotten no support from the AD

 

[The Full Monte]

There’s also something bizarre with the secondary ticket market, and Iowa basketball… Multiple times last year ticket prices for a game on things like StubHub were absolutely insane

Ticket prices for the Iowa versus Illinois game were comparable to the Iowa versus Penn State football game a couple years ago; $250-300 ea for top 5 row seats

there was another late season game against and nobody during the week… Where tickets were $85-$90 each

 

[Stu Beagle]

There’s also something bizarre with the secondary ticket market, and Iowa basketball… Multiple times last year ticket prices for a game on things like StubHub were absolutely insane

Ticket prices for the Iowa versus Illinois game were comparable to the Iowa versus Penn State football game a couple years ago; $250-300 ea for top 5 row seats

there was another late season game against and nobody during the week… Where tickets were $85-$90 each

IL was a Saturday and seemed like the only Saturday douche game of the season

 

[The Full Monte]

IL was a Saturday and seemed like the only Saturday douche game of the season

This is for two unranked teams…

 

[AZmess]

They were stupidly underseeded and everything, but yeah, having something that has never happened in the history of the NCAA Tournament happen to your team sort of sucks.

He was average until he hit HS. He’s the tallest of the mccaffreys now. We played them this summer and he was clearly in a class by himself on the floor but Bergy got pissed at them all and barely played them the 2nd half. In a summer game.

 

[Revolver]

I am hoping my sketch earlier in the season made its way to the athletic department. Parking is truly a nightmare, my vehicle does not move for an hour after home games.

Dude where the Hell are you parking? I park in the dental lot right next to Carver and get out within 10 minutes most nights. A fucking hour?!?! Are you parking behind the opposing team’s bus?!?

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Dude where the Hell are you parking? I park in the dental lot right next to Carver and get out within 10 minutes most nights. A fucking hour?!?! Are you parking behind the opposing team’s bus?!?

43 usually

 

[Will McCoy]

it’s almost like our fanbase doesn’t understand that the best way to make a deep run in the tournament is to get into the tournament as many times as possible.

Also, play serviceable defense, recruit and play strong lead guards, and craft a mentally tough team.

 

[Geese]

There’s also something bizarre with the secondary ticket market, and Iowa basketball… Multiple times last year ticket prices for a game on things like StubHub were absolutely insane

I've wondered this as well. A few games we thought about taking the kids to and the prices on StubHub were stupid. Would end up being a grand for the 4 of us. At least for halfway decent seats.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

This is for two unranked teams…

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Yeah that was weird. MSU was much less than that but I thought they were all $80+ that day.

 

[The Full Monte]

Yeah that was weird. MSU was much less than that but I thought they were all $80+ that day.

I don’t think it was the MSU game. It was before the 2/4 date Vs Illinois

 

[HiawathaHawk]

I don’t think it was the MSU game. It was before the 2/4 date Vs Illinois

I know Illinois is the one listed that was really crazy. I’m saying prices on StubHub also seemed weirdly high for the MSU game.

 

[shoot-the-three]

He was average until he hit HS. He’s the tallest of the mccaffreys now. We played them this summer and he was clearly in a class by himself on the floor but Bergy got pissed at them all and barely played them the 2nd half. In a summer game.

Good to know that Bregy hasn't changed. Patrick had to drive him crazy.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Also, play serviceable defense, recruit and play strong lead guards, and craft a mentally tough team.

so, 350 coaches do not know how to do this. I demand we hire one of the 16!!

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

Every day that goes by I'm losing hope that Fran is going to Notre Dame.

 

[TurdBurgler]

If Fran goes to ND, almost certainly Jack is going to be a NPOY type talent there. Just because.

 

[Stu Beagle]

If Fran goes to ND, almost certainly Jack is going to be a NPOY type talent there. Just because.

Think what Fran could do with a NPOY… oh wait

 

[Will McCoy]

so, 350 coaches do not know how to do this. I demand we hire one of the 16!!

Not what I said you goober. There are more than 16. I don’t want Fran fired. I want him to modify his program DNA to address a couple areas that are clear indicators of NCAA tournament success. Or ride off into the sunset and take Patrick with him. Actually, I want Patrick to leave either way. He infuriates me.

 

[Lee Beevers]

Every day that goes by I'm losing hope that Fran is going to Notre Dame.

Notre Dame wants Penn States coach, and they are going to get him.

 

[Kamala]

Notre Dame wants Penn States coach, and they are going to get him.

Fran to Penn State!

 

[KitKatApples]

Fran State!

 

[coff]

I remember pre chat game threads in the early years of HaLo with like four of us posting in game threads during losses with a final score of 45-60.

The poll question was "stay or go" not whether he should be fired.

 

[coff]

Fran has brought the program to the current level through an approach that likely cannot coexist with an aggressive approach to NIL. There are numerous examples in a short period of time that, while NIL may redirect donor money to the players, there is virtually no correlation with actually winning more games.

Good point. A look at the mediocre level of several "elite" programs this years seems to support this statement.

 

[CamelTones]

The NIL guys is hinting that Fran is looking at other opportunities. Not saying he is leaving but Notre Dame and Temple have his attention.

He also mentioned that raising NIL money for basketball is not going well. Claims all the larger donors want their money to go to football and Fran is aware of this. Then mentioned schools in the Big East don’t have football to compete with basketball so they will likely start to pull away in terms of caliber of recruit they are getting because all of their NIL money can be focused there.

 

[Russell Ziske]

Notre Dame wants Penn States coach, and they are going to get him.

It has been reported byLWade, that Devries to ND has been in the works for over a month now. Might want to check your sources.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

The NIL guys is hinting that Fran is looking at other opportunities. Not saying he is leaving but Notre Dame and Temple have his attention.

He also mentioned that raising NIL money for basketball is not going well. Claims all the larger donors want their money to go to football and Fran is aware of this. Then mentioned schools in the Big East don’t have football to compete with basketball so they will likely start to pull away in terms of caliber of recruit they are getting because all of their NIL money can be focused there.

I think I'm okay with that

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

Please go, Fran. Please come, Darian.

 

[Mr. Hawk]

I think I'm okay with that

The first part or the second part?

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Yes


Mostly the football part. But if Fran is considering Temple? Maybe its best that he take that.

 

[Thanksgiving Dinner]

Mostly the football part. But if Fran is considering Temple? Maybe its best that he take that.

Best for him, maybe. If he bolts because of a lack of necessary support, Iowa basketball is a dead program walking.

 

[WestMifflin]

Yes


Mostly the football part. But if Fran is considering Temple? Maybe its best that he take that.

Temple would actually make some sense - back home, no one GAF about football there.

 

[MikeyJoe]

Best for him, maybe. If he bolts because of a lack of necessary support, Iowa basketball is a dead program walking.

Correct. It's one thing to be fine with coach turnover. It's another thing to think about what it would mean for your subsequent coaching search if your coach leaves for Temple due to perceived lack of donor support.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

If that is true about donor support, we probably don’t want Fran to leave

 

[L. Wade Childress]

D is not going to push for Notre Dame if he thinks iowa may be open. He loves Des Moines.