Do you want Fran to stay or go?

[Stu Beagle]

The right coach will fix any donor problems we currently have

 

[Hawkstrat]

D is not going to push for Notre Dame if he thinks iowa may be open. He loves Des Moines.

You love D.

 

[Hawkstrat]

The right coach will fix any donor problems we currently have

Nah.

 

[KitKatApples]

Maybe?

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

Correct. It's one thing to be fine with coach turnover. It's another thing to think about what it would mean for your subsequent coaching search if your coach leaves for Temple due to perceived lack of donor support.

Incorrect. Perhaps it would be a boon to the subsequent coaching search due to donors seeing a guy leave who went 0-13 in finishing top 16 in the country.

The Criminal ruined you people.

Oop looks like I got scooped.

 

[WestMifflin]

Incorrect. Perhaps it would be a boon to the subsequent coaching search due to donors seeing a guy leave who went 0-13 in finishing top 16 in the country.

The Criminal ruined you people.

Oop looks like I got scooped.

It's dumb to say making a Sweet Sixteen is finishing in the top 16 of the country.

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

What would be the smart way to describe finishing in the top 16?

 

[Hawkstrat]

A smart person wouldn't.

 

[WestMifflin]

What would be the smart way to describe finishing in the top 16?

Actually looking at metrics/polls/NET/whatever.

But you know this, and it refutes your stupid point, so you are using something dumb like the Sweet Sixteen.

 

[Thanksgiving Dinner]

The right coach will fix any donor problems we currently have

If by "the right coach", you mean an established big name, no one in their right mind who fits that description is going to come to Iowa if Fran goes. If by "the right coach", you mean someone coming up from a lower level job, donors will demand results first, which will be incredibly difficult to achieve without donations.

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

Actually looking at metrics/polls/NET/whatever.

But you know this, and it refutes your stupid point, so you are using something dumb like the Sweet Sixteen.

LOL

I mean L.O.L.

 

[WestMifflin]

LOL

I mean L.O.L.

Is your claim Princeton is top 16 in the country?

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

Is your claim Princeton is top 16 in the country?

Are they still playing? How many teams are still playing?

 

[WestMifflin]

Are they still playing? How many teams are still playing?

Yes, they're one of the last 16 teams playing. Are they one of the top 16 teams in the country?

 

[The Full Monte]

The NIL guys is hinting that Fran is looking at other opportunities. Not saying he is leaving but Notre Dame and Temple have his attention.

He also mentioned that raising NIL money for basketball is not going well. Claims all the larger donors want their money to go to football and Fran is aware of this. Then mentioned schools in the Big East don’t have football to compete with basketball so they will likely start to pull away in terms of caliber of recruit they are getting because all of their NIL money can be focused there.

Current Swarm donations, unless specifically earmarked for one program or another (which is quite common) are 80/10/10. A VAST majority of funds raised for basketball might have been processed through the Swarm, but were NOT originated by them. And Fran is HEAVILY involved in those efforts. The level of effort he personally puts in to pushing NIL forward for the team would absolutely SHOCK most people.

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

This is why halo will forever be the cyclonefanatic of Iowa message boards. It's no wonder there's such a fascination with that site.

 

[The Full Monte]

The right coach will fix any donor problems we currently have

I understand the thought....but there are sooooo many things that go into donors/NIL world that are well well outside Fran or any other coach's control

 

[Verbal]

Thinking the Sweet Sixteen represents the top sixteen teams in the country *is* the kind of thing you'd see on cyclonefanatic.

 

[WestMifflin]

This is why halo will forever be the cyclonefanatic of Iowa message boards. It's no wonder there's such a fascination with that site.

Don't run away, bitch.

Yes, they're one of the last 16 teams playing. Are they one of the top 16 teams in the country?

 

[The Full Monte]

It's dumb to say making a Sweet Sixteen is finishing in the top 16 of the country.

Lol. Color me shocked that the Iowa State fan is equating performance in a post-season tournament with how a team "finished" that year. Iowa won the Big 10 tournament last year. They didn't win the conference.

Hmmmm.....which fanbase is it that does that.....

 

[The Full Monte]

Are they still playing? How many teams are still playing?

LOLLOOLOLOL. 5 minutes later and I'm still chuckling (sensibly of course) at this. Holy hell.

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

Now this is peak halo!

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

Now this is peak halo!

Thanks for all you do!

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

Have they started a net-cutting celebration for the end of the regular season KenPom winner?

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

Thinking the Sweet Sixteen represents the top sixteen teams in the country *is* the kind of thing you'd see on cyclonefanatic.

As I said, reaching the Sweet Sixteen represents a top 16 finish.

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

Lol. Color me shocked that the Iowa State fan is equating performance in THE post-season tournament with how a team "finished" that year. Iowa won the Big 10 tournament last year. They didn't win the conference.

Hmmmm.....which fanbase is it that does that.....

Fixed it for you.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

The solution is to find a mid major coach who has gone to multiple sweet 16’s. What could go wrong?

 

[The Full Monte]

Fixed it for you.

Just so we are really really clear here....you're saying that St Peter's was a Top 16 team in all of college basketball last season?

 

[HerkyHopeful]

The NIL guys is hinting that Fran is looking at other opportunities. Not saying he is leaving but Notre Dame and Temple have his attention.

He also mentioned that raising NIL money for basketball is not going well. Claims all the larger donors want their money to go to football and Fran is aware of this. Then mentioned schools in the Big East don’t have football to compete with basketball so they will likely start to pull away in terms of caliber of recruit they are getting because all of their NIL money can be focused there.

Fran is recruiting at the same level he was pre -NIL. I don't think he's going to be someone that pulls a bunch of big recruits at a different school with a bigger checkbook.

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

Just so we are really really clear here....you're saying that St Peter's was a Top 16 team in all of college basketball last season?

Not during the regular season.

But if they won when it mattered most and were awarded the chance along with 15 other teams to earn the title of national champion of the greatest athletic postseason spectacle ever created by man (but on halo is strangely NOT the metric to use when evaluating that season's teams), then absolutely.

 

[The Full Monte]

Ok. I'll let you go back and re-read your other posts on the topic and then re-examine your last.

 

[Geese]

Lololol omg

 

[ivan_drago]

Fritz, do you think Iowa State was a top 16 team last year?

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

Instead of asking me if some random podunk teams that I don't remember were top 16, if they the made it to Sweet 16 the answer is yes. This isn't difficult. The tournament is the best metric we've got and believing otherwise is simply unamerican.

 

[KitKatApples]

FFS dude

 

[ivan_drago]

Instead of asking me if some random podunk teams that I don't remember were top 16, if they the made it to Sweet 16 the answer is yes. This isn't difficult. The tournament is the best metric we've got and believing otherwise is simply unamerican.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Yeah, I would much rather be a fan of Saint peter’s instead of iowa. If you know what I mean.

 

[Geese]

Ban this asshole

 

[Fritz Fequiere]

The "Fran should stay" contingent has spoken and revealed themselves to be a bunch a commies

 

[BuffettHawk]

Ban this asshole

L Wade is always good for a laugh or two.

 

[Grandma]

Let's just throw out the fact that the NCAA tournament is a crapshoot of a sample size for one second and entertain this.

Making the sweet 16 puts you in the top 4.4% of all college basketball teams. A top 4.4% finish in college football would put you in the top 6. It's a ridiculously hard thing to do.

I suppose we should fire our football coach if he isn't making the CFB playoff next year, too. Actually, not a bad idea.

 

[CleteyColgate]

Ban this asshole

Why?

 

[Hawk&Balls]

That sounds great, but any year Iowa makes the tournament they're conceivably in the top 10 percent of all teams. Being conservative, reaching the sweet 16 for every 3-4 tournament trips doesn't seem to be completely unreasonable

 

[gohawkeyes811]

Didn't Billy Donovan even say there was no way they were the best team in the country two straight years when they went back to back?

Is fritz just acting incoherent or is it real?

 

[gohawkeyes811]

Instead of asking me if some random podunk teams that I don't remember were top 16, if they the made it to Sweet 16 the answer is yes. This isn't difficult. The tournament is the best metric we've got and believing otherwise is simply unamerican.

Umm, wtf?

 

[Fletch]

Let's just throw out the fact that the NCAA tournament is a crapshoot of a sample size for one second and entertain this.

Making the sweet 16 puts you in the top 4.4% of all college basketball teams. A top 4.4% finish in college football would put you in the top 6. It's a ridiculously hard thing to do.

I suppose we should fire our football coach if he isn't making the CFB playoff next year, too. Actually, not a bad idea.

I agree with the sentiment but this is a terrible analogy.

 

[DonJMiller]

“FDU is one of the best 32 teams in America!”

/Fritz

 

[ivan_drago]

“FDU is one of the best 32 teams in America!”

/Fritz

He’s an ISU fan. Of course he believes that stupid shit.

 

[Greg Obrecht]

Fritz and Clitty are quite the pair.

 

[Stomper15]

The NIL guys is hinting that Fran is looking at other opportunities. Not saying he is leaving but Notre Dame and Temple have his attention.

He also mentioned that raising NIL money for basketball is not going well. Claims all the larger donors want their money to go to football and Fran is aware of this. Then mentioned schools in the Big East don’t have football to compete with basketball so they will likely start to pull away in terms of caliber of recruit they are getting because all of their NIL money can be focused there.

This goes against what 247 said which was Fran has been telling recruits that he is staying at Iowa -- and thinks they have a lot of possibilities with NIL and the caliber of team that they are building at Iowa.