whatever mostly, I think of guys who either were good on forgettable teams, were overshadowed at a position, or didn’t do much as pros for whatever reasonWhat’s the criteria?
I'd argue Chandler for that spot. Probably the one that is most likely overlooked when the QB discussion happens.I think most Iowa QBs are properly rated, but I am a firm believer that Tate was the best but isn‘t widely recognized as such because of his senior yea.
How many of these would start on today’s team? I had this discussion just a day ago about Considine. Does he play over Koerner?QB Tate
FB Cervantes
RB Young?
WR Kasper
WR Ochoa
TE Myers
DL Robinson
DL Kroul
DL Hodges (team captai)
LB Lewis
LB Edds
DB Considine
DB Jo Johnson
Uh yes with a noticeable drop off when Koerner comes in for him if he’s injured.How many of these would start on today’s team? I had this discussion just a day ago about Considine. Does he play over Koerner?
Really liked Spievay. He was MVP of a win at Wisconsin on a day he was sick. Great tackler.LB Humpal
DB Spievey
WR Mo Brown
I think the narrative is Iowa never has had good receivers and people forget about guys like Brown.
Maybe I’m just forgetting how it was but it seems depth wise Iowa is in a much better position today than they were from 2001-2010. Those teams relied on there first team players a ton.
Considine is also probably the best special teams player in Iowa history, he could have had a great career at Iowa without ever taking an offensive or defensive snap.Uh yes with a noticeable drop off when Koerner comes in for him if he’s injured.
If we ignore Bob Sanders as a special teams player then yes.Considine is also probably the best special teams player in Iowa history, he could have had a great career at Iowa without ever taking an offensive or defensive snap.
Amani JonesIf we ignore Bob Sanders as a special teams player then yes.
Jermire Roberts and Matt Melloy were solid on special teams as well.
He got absolutely abused in that 2008 PSU game I just watchedReally liked Spievay. He was MVP of a win at Wisconsin on a day he was sick. Great tackler.
Small sample size but Jayme MurphyIf we ignore Bob Sanders as a special teams player then yes.
Jermire Roberts and Matt Melloy were solid on special teams as well.
irish car bombSmall sample size but Jayme Murphy
I don’t think he was underrated at all. He was fuckin alone.Ladell Motherfuckin Betts
Still think he was underrated. Dude deserved so much better.I don’t think he was underrated at all. He was fuckin alone.
Really liked Spievay. He was MVP of a win at Wisconsin on a day he was sick. Great tackler.
The Iowa State game was weird, they moved the ball well on the ground, but they kept giving it up. Tate was struggling even before he got hurt making a dumb tackle on a pick. Manson was obviously not a starting quality QB.As for an actual season, 2005 is a forgotten pretty good season.
Crushed by Ohio State and oddly by Iowa State. Michigan OT loss and the debacle at the end of the NW game plus the Outback Bowl.
2013 sometimes feels like that for me. Came off the disaster of 2012 to start the season with a loss to Northern Illinois at home. Thought it was going to get really ugly for Ferentz, but they put in a pretty solid year. Hung tough on the road @Ohio State and ended the year with wins over Michigan and beat the shit out of Nebrantska in Lincoln.As for an actual season, 2005 is a forgotten pretty good season.
Crushed by Ohio State and oddly by Iowa State. Michigan OT loss and the debacle at the end of the NW game plus the Outback Bowl.
All of their wins were basically blowouts by the end. Even the Wisconsin game where they fell behind by 10 in Barry’s last home game they scored the last 20 and completely shut down Calhoun in the second half.
I think if you did a big league or tournament with all the teams for Ferentz, that team Is finishing 5th at worst2008 is the answer. If Ricky had grown any hair on his nads by that point and Kurt wouldn't have fucked around with Jake early in the season, that team goes for over 10 wins.
Disagree. 2014 was a good team and should have been a 10 win team if Ferentz isn't such a dumbfuck about not starting Beathard after the Pitt game the rest of the year.Duzey and Ott (plus Scherff) were some of the only bright sides on the otherwise shitty 2014 team, sucks that neither got to play much for the 2015 team.
shitty season would be the better framingDisagree. 2014 was a good team and should have been a 10 win team if Ferentz isn't such a dumbfuck about not starting Beathard after the Pitt game the rest of the year.
Shitty season that didn't have to be. The loss to a terrible Iowa State team at home was an abomination. That was a Jake Rudock is a fucking pussy and Ferentz was still trying to get Greg Davis to pound a shitty Weisman into the ground. They fucked around all game and lost in horrifying fashion to a really bad team.shitty season would be the better framing
Although for all of it (Iowa State, Maryland, and Minnesota), they lost by 2 at home to Wisconsin, if they win that and then Nebrantska (when they blew the huge lead) they would have been in the B10 CG
2002I think if you did a big league or tournament with all the teams for Ferentz, that team Is finishing 5th at worst
2013 was great at the time but looking back at the losses, Northern Illinois at home is bad even if they’re decent. Were kinda in the Wisconsin game but never felt like they would win. Fell for another fake punt, lost momentum then lost the game to Michigan State. Ohio State was ok but the defense didn’t force a single punt. Defense was great against LSU but running Weisman against LSU....lol.2013 sometimes feels like that for me. Came off the disaster of 2012 to start the season with a loss to Northern Illinois at home. Thought it was going to get really ugly for Ferentz, but they put in a pretty solid year. Hung tough on the road @Ohio State and ended the year with wins over Michigan and beat the shit out of Nebrantska in Lincoln.
LB's were all studs that year.
It wasn't a great loss, but losing against Northern Illinois when they go 12-0 in the regular season is forgivable.2013 was great at the time but looking back at the losses, Northern Illinois at home is bad even if they’re decent. Were kinda in the Wisconsin game but never felt like they would win. Fell for another fake punt, lost momentum then lost the game to Michigan State. Ohio State was ok but the defense didn’t force a single punt. Defense was great against LSU but running Weisman against LSU....lol.
It’s mostly memorable because it was their first win over Nebrantska since they joined the conference, and they crushed them. But Nebrantska was also playing their 3rd string walkon QB. The Michigan comeback win in Antarctic weather was nice, Minnesota and Iowa State were decent wins.
2007, 2012 and 2014 were Kirks worst coaching jobs. 2012 felt like a dumpster fire yet they were basically a fluke against Central Michigan (they were penalized for being offsides on an onsides kick Iowa recovered and got to kick again) and a fuck up at the end against Purdue away from going to a bowl.
This is where I hope that Bovert is correct and Stanley was the thing holding Iowa back. If Petras is even close to as good as good as people think he might be, could put Iowa up on the level where Wisconsin has been.In about 5 years we’re all going to be looking at the stretch of 2017-2019 as a little disappointing. They should have gone to at least one Big Ten title game in that stretch.
The makeup of next years team is going to be similar to the type of Iowa team that beats Wisconsin.This is where I hope that Bovert is correct and Stanley was the thing holding Iowa back. If Petras is even close to as good as good as people think he might be, could put Iowa up on the level where Wisconsin has been.
The 2018 season, even though they were 3 games back of Northwestern, was the real miss to me. That was a soft first-place team, and Iowa had four losses that were varying degrees of dumb. Gave up a pair of late TDs to Wisconsin. Stanley fucked up at Penn State. DB injuries caught up to them at Purdue, and even then they only lost because of a soft PI. I was at a wedding during Northwestern so no comment but another close one.In about 5 years we’re all going to be looking at the stretch of 2017-2019 as a little disappointing. They should have gone to at least one Big Ten title game in that stretch.
I think this is a little too hard on him. He is likely behind the first 4 on that list, but he is markedly better than Vandenburg and McCann and I will never take Rudock over him. The last 2 games how he finished against Nebrantska alone puts him above Rudock.I’m a big Stanley defender but he definitely held them back. In terms of QBs under Kirk I’d probably take him 6th or 7th.
Tate
Banks
Beathard
Stanzi
Vandenburg
McCann or Stanley.
Id probably take 2013 Rudock over Nate.