***Iowa v. Michigan - 2/25/21 - 6:00 PM - ESPN***

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Fuck everyone and especially fuck IowaFan.

What in the mother fuck do you expect from Iowa Basketball? It has been relevant twice in 40 fucking years, and that took a Hall of Fame coach for one of them and the other one was because we had a guy willing to cheat and pay for athletes from Detroit.

Name a player that Fran isn't getting far above their potential from where they were ranked where they came in? Patrick? Toussaint? Gee, the one guy you might be able to name isn't where he should be because he was riddled with the after effects of cancer.

Garza is stupidly above where he was ever supposed to be. bohannon is much much better. Fredrick is the bargain of the century. Connor at worst is about where he should be.

Fran has Iowa as a very legit Top 5-10 team with the player of the year in back to back years and one of the best wing guards in the country.

If anyone is complaining about that on any level, you're an asshole.
Can we start doing that again?
 

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That he’s worn down, doesn’t have the same energy. He’s fucking tired.
So how in the world is that because he's "just been rode too hard by Fran"?

His minutes are down year over year. He had to work harder and was used far more last year. He has more help this year than ever.

THAT is the fucking dumb part. Luka might be tired, but has absolutely nothing to do with Fran. If anything, Fran has done everything in his power to not use him too much.
 

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So how in the world is that because he's "just been rode too hard by Fran"?

His minutes are down year over year. He had to work harder and was used far more last year. He has more help this year than ever.

THAT is the fucking dumb part. Luka might be tired, but has absolutely nothing to do with Fran.
Well Fran is an asshole and that somehow relates to Luka being worn down!
 

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So how in the world is that because he's "just been rode too hard by Fran"?

His minutes are down year over year. He had to work harder and was used far more last year. He has more help this year than ever.

THAT is the fucking dumb part. Luka might be tired, but has absolutely nothing to do with Fran. If anything, Fran has done everything in his power to not use him too much.
lol, ok, Lukas coach shouldn’t see that his big dog needs a break for the long haul? Jesus, Doug, Fran sucks at a lot of stuff, it’s why he was a mid major coach forever. It’s ok, that’s what he is & he dropped the fucking ball with luka.

He’s good at shit too, like you’ve said, he gets a lot out of guys that had no business in the big ten.
 

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lol, ok, Lukas coach shouldn’t see that his big dog needs a break for the long haul? Jesus, Doug, Fran sucks at a lot of stuff, it’s why he was a mid major coach forever. It’s ok, that’s what he is & he dropped the fucking ball with luka.

He’s good at shit too, like you’ve said, he gets a lot out of guys that had no business in the big ten.
What??

Pretty fucking impressive of you to skip over every fucking fact and go immediately to Fran sucks and it's his fault because of eye test.
 

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“So how in the world is that because he's "just been rode too hard by Fran"?

His minutes are down year over year. He had to work harder and was used far more last year. He has more help this year than ever.

THAT is the fucking dumb part. Luka might be tired, but has absolutely nothing to do with Fran. If anything, Fran has done everything in his power to not use him too much.”
 

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I think Luka is wore down. Seems like his shooting pct is way down last few games. Sign of tired legs. Maybe hes been used less in season than last but he's tired cause of a mix of the season and his off season work.
 

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I think Luka is wore down. Seems like his shooting pct is way down last few games. Sign of tired legs. Maybe hes been used less in season than last but he's tired cause of a mix of the season and his off season work.
So how is that Fran's fault?
 

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I wonder what the excuse will be when Garza has a monster game on Sunday.
 

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HE IS THE COACH. COACHES ARE PAID TO SEE THESE THINGS AT THE POWER 5 LEVEL.
He's playing him less minutes and using him less. What the fuck else would you have him do? Sit him completely? He kept him out almost an entire half of a recent game.

This again is why you are a goddamn retard.
 

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He's playing him less minutes and using him less. What the fuck else would you have him do? Sit him? He kept him out almost an entire half of a recent game.

This again is why you are a goddamn retard.
I would want the fucking head coach to see the big picture and see his biggest piece is getting worn down. But you want to suck frans Dick I guess. Weird but go 4 it bader
 

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I would want the fucking head coach to see the big picture and see his biggest piece is getting worn down. But you want to suck frans Dick I guess. Weird but go 4 it bader
Again, what else would you have him do? They are in the final stretch of a season where they are fighting for the #2 seed in the Big Ten and want to avoid the #5 or #6 seed. They are trying to make sure they get a #3 seed or higher for the NCAA Tournament.

Both of those things are likely to get Garza more rest than anything.

You keep saying nothing and offering up no explanation for what you would have Fran do other than what he is already doing. Maybe answer the fucking question.
 

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Again, what else would you have him do? They are in the final stretch of a season where they are fighting for the #2 seed in the Big Ten and want to avoid the #5 or #6 seed. They are trying to make sure they get a #3 seed or higher for the NCAA Tournament.

Both of those things are likely to get Garza more rest than anything.

You keep saying nothing and offering up no explanation for what you would have Fran do other than what he is already doing. Maybe answer the fucking question.
None of the shit you mentioned means shit. They aren’t winning the big ten regular season so this entire ride should be engineered to maximize their ncaa run. Who give a shit about the BTT? Lol
 

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None of the shit you mentioned means shit. They aren’t winning the big ten regular season so this entire ride should be engineered to maximize their ncaa run. Who give a shit about the BTT? Lol
LOL. Name a coach who would do that?
 

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None of the shit you mentioned means shit. They aren’t winning the big ten regular season so this entire ride should be engineered to maximize their ncaa run. Who give a shit about the BTT? Lol
It does mean shit you fucking moron. If they get a #4 seed or higher in the BTT, that means they get a bye and have to play one entire less game.

If they get a #3 seed or higher, then they are playing a #14+ seed, meaning they very likely have a much easier game than if they get a #5 and have to play a dreaded #12 seed. It also means the second game if they are a #3 seed or better they play either a #6 or #7 seed instead of a #4 or #5 seed.

I sure in the fuck would rather play Eastern Washington or James Madison in the First Round of the NCAA Tournament rather than have to play a team like Xavier or Wichita State or UConn.
 

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Shawnee is the biggest fucking idiot in the world. He would rather have Fran sit the National POY down the stretch, likely resulting in a couple more losses, and then tank the BTT all so they can be ready for the NCAA Tournament. Who needs a #2 or #3 seed in the NCAA Tournament when you could be a #5 or #6 seed and have to face the distinct possibility of elimination in the first round followed by a game with a #3 or #4 seed if you do happen to win.

Brilliant.
 

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I would prefer a luka Garza at peak & a 5 seed than worn down can’t dunk luka and a 3 seed.

just me
 

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Shawnee is the biggest fucking idiot in the world. He would rather have Fran sit the National POY down the stretch, likely resulting in a couple more losses, and then tank the BTT all so they can be ready for the NCAA Tournament. Who needs a #2 or #3 seed in the NCAA Tournament when you could be a #5 or #6 seed and have to face the distinct possibility of elimination in the first round followed by a game with a #3 or #4 seed if you do happen to win.

Brilliant.
I know you just like debating but Jesus dude.
 

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Iowa is in good position to beat Ohio State on Sunday and then win the final 2 home games. With a win or decent showing in the BTT they very likely would be right on the #2 seed line.

As it stands now, that means they get to play Liberty, Abilene Christian, Grand Canyon or James Madison in the first round. Then in the second round, worst case scenario is they play BYU, LSU, Rutgers or Colorado. Best case scenario they get lucky and play someone like St. Bonneventure, Maryland, Colgate or Seton Hall.

In the fucked up world of Shawneeville, Iowa instead would get to open with Stanford, Indiana, Duke or Georgia Tech. Then for shits and giggles the next game they get Oklahoma, Illinois, Texas or Arkansas.

What a brilliant plan.
 

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In your fucked up scenario, you also end up having to likely play the #1 seed in the Sweet 16 instead of the #3 seed.

That is the difference between having to play Gonzaga/Baylor and having to play Houston/Creighton potentially to go to the Elite 8.

Just an unmitigated fucking moron.
 

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Iowa is in good position to beat Ohio State on Sunday and then win the final 2 home games. With a win or decent showing in the BTT they very likely would be right on the #2 seed line.

As it stands now, that means they get to play Liberty, Abilene Christian, Grand Canyon or James Madison in the first round. Then in the second round, worst case scenario is they play BYU, LSU, Rutgers or Colorado. Best case scenario they get lucky and play someone like St. Bonneventure, Maryland, Colgate or Seton Hall.

In the fucked up world of Shawneeville, Iowa instead would get to open with Stanford, Indiana, Duke or Georgia Tech. Then for shits and giggles the next game they get Oklahoma, Illinois, Texas or Arkansas.

What a brilliant plan.
Lol, k. Grand Canyon toenail state or who ever is number one.
 

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Doug is off the rails folks. We’ve seen this before. Stay calm and let his retardation pass. Thank you and enjoy your ride.
 

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Yeah, let's tank so we can get a #4 or #5 seed and have to play Gonzaga or Baylor in the Sweet 16 instead of Houston/Creighton.

Brilliant.
 

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I will say Shawnee, Fran certainly is ruining Luka all the way to national player of the year. Just destroyed him.
 
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Luka has objectively been a better offensive player this year and has also played fewer minutes than last year. He’s also been better against high end competition than he was last year.
 
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