**Iowa vs. Illinois Basketball - 3/8/20 - 6pm - BTN**

[douglasbader]

Win and get the double bye.

 

[Thanksgiving Dinner]

 

[26.2]

I'm all for a double bye. Iowa in a close one.

 

[WCFHawkeye]

Win and get the double bye.

Only if Ohio State beats Illinois first. Otherwise 5th is the best to be had, more likely 6th.

 

[douglasbader]

Only if Ohio State beats Illinois first. Otherwise 5th is the best to be had more likely 6th.

No shit??

 

[douglasbader]

I know WCF. I know.

 

[BBK]

I'm amazed we are still in play for a double bye.

The craziest thing of all is if all 3 of Maryland, MSU, and Wisconsin win their final game, Wisconsin will be the #1 overall seed. They were 5-5 10 weeks ago and many of us left them for dead.

 

[Berzerkenpas]

win, stay ranked, double-bye

and fuck illinois to little tiny greasy bloody pieces

 

[nolookpass]

Azmess has a better chance of dunking a basketball than Joe W has of beating those scary Brown people Sunday

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Azmess has a better chance of dunking a basketball than Joe W has of beating those scary Brown people Sunday

Wait a gosh darn second. I have zero chance of dunking.

 

[douglasbader]

Azmess has a better chance of dunking a basketball than Joe W has of beating those scary Brown people Sunday

Lol, I guess this is going to be your new thing since the "Toussaint is great and Fran isn't playing him enough" thing blew up in your face the other night.

 

[nolookpass]

Lol, I guess this is going to be your new thing since the "Toussaint is great and Fran isn't playing him enough" thing blew up in your face the other night.

He should play more imo. Never claimed he was great

 

[Squat Cobbler]

I'm amazed we are still in play for a double bye.

The craziest thing of all is if all 3 of Maryland, MSU, and Wisconsin win their final game, Wisconsin will be the #1 overall seed. They were 5-5 10 weeks ago and many of us left them for dead.

Wisconsin got an incredibly lucky schedule. Only played the top 5 teams (other than themselves) once. They will play the bottom 5 teams 9 times.

 

[KitKatApples]

God I hate everything about them

 

[Mo T]

Wisconsin got an incredibly lucky schedule. Only played the top 5 teams (other than themselves) once. They will play the bottom 5 teams 9 times.

Iowa has lost four games to those bottom 5 teams.

 

[KitKatApples]

Nebrantska is the only terrible one

 

[douglasbader]

Iowa has lost three games to those bottom 5 teams.

Which means nothing when it comes to Wisconsin having an easy Big Ten schedule, especially down the stretch.

 

[Greg Obrecht]

Wisconsin got an incredibly lucky schedule. Only played the top 5 teams (other than themselves) once. They will play the bottom 5 teams 9 times.

Iowa’s conference schedule is ranked 13th on Kenpom. Wisconsin’s is 10th.

 

[Mo T]

Nebrantska is the only terrible one

I agree. But bitching about Wisconsin's schedule is pretty stupid and irrelevant.

 

[Mr. Meeseeks]

Wisconsin got an incredibly lucky schedule. Only played the top 5 teams (other than themselves) once. They will play the bottom 5 teams 9 times.

 

[HawkBall23]

God I hate everything about them

Wisconsin bball and football, Brad Davison, so many punchable Badger faces, all of it.....

 

[TVan]

Wait a gosh darn second. I have zero chance of dunking.

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[HawkBall23]

Double-bye up for grabs Sunday night.

Cmon Hawks.

If the good & confident JoeW would care to make an appearance Sunday, he'd be very welcomed with open arms.

 

[douglasbader]

No matter if you like or don't like Rothstein, he pointed out the other night that it has become more of a trend for teams to lose on senior night and other home games where there is a lot of distractions going on. Let's hope that Illinois has a hand up their own ass on Sunday.

 

[douglasbader]

Is this now the biggest regular season game in the Fran era?

Iowa's biggest regular season game since 2006?

 

[BBK]

Is this now the biggest regular season game in the Fran era?

Iowa's biggest regular season game since 2006?

First thing that pops into my head were those games at the end of the season in 2017 where we went on a run where we had to win almost every game to make the NCAA tournament.

We did, but then laid a turd in the BTT.

 

[douglasbader]

First thing that pops into my head were those games at the end of the season in 2017 where we went on a run where we had to win almost every game to make the NCAA tournament.

We did, but then laid a turd in the BTT.

I looked through Fran's seasons. This has to be the biggest regular season game. Iowa has finished higher in the Big Ten but never had the double bye in play like this.

 

[Bonner]

If Weiskamp can put together a good game, Pemsl is healthy, and Garza stays out of foul trouble, they have a 50/50 chance at winning.

 

[CurdMan]

With Iowa’s short bench I’m almost a little afraid of them making a big ten tournament run. Not sure how much they could handle the following week

 

[douglasbader]

Afraid!!

Now is not the time for fear, TurdMan.

 

[CurdMan]

Luka playing 4-5 games in one week has me v afraid Doug

 

[douglasbader]

Luka playing 4-5 games in one week has me v afraid Doug

Lol.

You realize that if Iowa beats Illinois and they go on a run in the BTT the max they play is 3 games, right?

 

[CurdMan]

Lol.

You realize that if Iowa beats Illinois and they go on a run in the BTT the max they play is 3 games, right?

WRONG!!! 3+2=5! This team is getting us back to the S16 boys

 

[bigazzturkeylegs]

What does RPI have the line at?

 

[Mo T]

Illinois -3.5

(guess)

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Well, since we're the Hawkeyes, we all know what is going to happen, right?

 

[Revolver]

Well, since we're the Hawkeyes, we all know what is going to happen, right?

Yep. Luka is going to kick so much Illini ass it will make AJ Epenesa blush.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Luka will kick ass regardless.

 

[26.2]

I wouldn't call this the biggest Fran game ever. The stakes are to get two byes instead of one in the BTT. We are still going to the NCAA tourney no matter what. Minimal stakes at play here. BBK was right earlier.

 

[Fletch]

Double bye, and this would be a really nice win for NCAA seeding.

Agree that this is probably the most consequential reg season game of Fran era.

 

[douglasbader]

I wouldn't call this the biggest Fran game ever. The stakes are to get two byes instead of one in the BTT. We are still going to the NCAA tourney no matter what. Minimal stakes at play here. BBK was right earlier.

I think the stakes are bigger than just the double bye. Iowa is trending towards a 6 or 7 seed if they lose this and the first game of the BTT.

If they win this game, get the double bye and maybe win a game in the BTT they are solidly in the 5 seed range or better.

 

[Verbal]

Well, since we're the Hawkeyes, we all know what is going to happen, right?

Tip at 6:00, so I'd guess we'll know by about 6:10 what kind of night it's going to be.

 

[26.2]

I think the stakes are bigger than just the double bye. Iowa is trending towards a 6 or 7 seed if they lose this and the first game of the BTT.

If they win this game, get the double bye and maybe win a game in the BTT they are solidly in the 5 seed range or better.

Even if they lost to the Illini and the first round of the BTT, I can't see them dropping to a 7 seed. This whole thing is going to decide if Iowa is a 5 or 6 seed. Or a 4 if they make it to the BTT finals.

 

[douglasbader]

Even if they lost to the Illini and the first round of the BTT, I can't see them dropping to a 7 seed. This whole thing is going to decide if Iowa is a 5 or 6 seed. Or a 4 if they make it to the BTT finals.

They would likely drop into the 40's in the NET and in the 30's on KenPom. 20-12 overall.

Even with their great Quad 1 wins, that would be rough metrics to put them at better than a 7 seed.

 

[wondergrape]

If we drop 2 straight we are definitely a 7.

 

[Billy Butters]

They would likely drop into the 40's in the NET and in the 30's on KenPom. 20-12 overall.

Even with their great Quad 1 wins, that would be rough metrics to put them at better than a 7 seed.

This is what pisses me off about seeding. It seems like metrics and bad losses mean more than a bunch of high level wins. 4th most Q1 wins but can't get a 6 seed, that seems ridiculous.

 

[CurdMan]

This is what pisses me off about seeding. It seems like metrics and bad losses mean more than a bunch of high level wins. 4th most Q1 wins but can't get a 6 seed, that seems ridiculous.

Again, the committee had Iowa just out of the top 16 a few weeks back. That was after the bad losses and Purdue blowout. Iowa will be rewarded for its good wins

 

[douglasbader]

Fran's interview quotes today sounds like he is all in on the game Sunday. It also sounds like he is sick of Wieskamp and Fredrick passing up shots and is imploring them to be much more aggressive taking shots.

Luka also quietly calling his team out for being a bunch of fucking pussies and not giving effort the other night.

 

[KitKatApples]

There defensive effort in the 2nd half wasn't bad. They need to start the game like that though

 

[TurdBurgler]

There were a lot of bubble years where you could single out a single loss that knocked them out (in hindsight). I don't even really see this as a big game honestly, itd be nice to win though.

I liked how we matched up with them the last time. Joe/CJ combined for 36 but only made three 3's, and they held Dosunmo in check.