**Iowa vs. Nebrantska Basketball - 1/7/19 - 8pm - BTN**

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Hoiberg and his merry band of cocky faggots can fuck off.
 
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19 offensive boards to their 6. 28-44 from 2. Even in turnovers. Everyone besides Connor went 1-26 from 3. Game.

They fucking packed the paint and dared everyone to shoot open 3's. Joe had wide open looks repeatedly first half, missed and shrunk. 1-10 from 3, almost all open. 9-13 from 2 and kept turning his back to the hoop to kick it out. Fuck.
 

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Even worse, 2-5 from the line.
Iowa was outscored by 30 between the 3 and the line. Lost by 6.

That was one of the games they could least afford to lose, they can off set it Friday but Frans going to need to find offense outside of Garza and Joe.

I also get Iowa shot it poorly but they can’t keep passing up wide open looks. Shoot the damn ball and let Garza go get it.
 
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Fucking 1-26 from everyone besides Connor and maybe 4 of them were contested. Holy shit.
 

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Joe Weiskamp makes Jarrod Uthoff look like Ron Artest.
 

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You could write a book on what went wrong with this game.

59-59 with 5:20 left. Iowa finally gets it tied and Thorn Torboaelfjag comes down on back to back possessions and hits NBA threes. Score is 65-61 and Pemsl has an atrocious turnover.

66-70 with 1:05 left against a terrible free throw shooting team. Fran puts in Till who for whatever reason easily gets beat deep for a dunk and a foul. It was a panic move. Iowa was only down 4 and if you play a mild press there and then foul you are fine. There was no need to go all out for a steal.

Still, even with that he misses the free throw and Garza/Wieskamp have point blank shots to still only be down 4 with 38 seconds left. They miss and then turn it over. Game over.
 
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You can say they should have kept shooting but when everyone else is 1-26, it was so far in their fucking heads they had no hope. Wieskamp was by far the biggest disappointment. If they're going to collapse the whole team on Luka he needs to not shrink up and fucking take over.
 

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I’m just glad fran saved his timeouts to the very end so he could extend the game
 
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Even with the game plan the points in the paint were 52 to 26 in our favor. Holy shit. Someone make a fucking jumper.
 

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There's going to be some games like this. Not enough shooters without Nunge, Jbo, and now CJ and the offense can be stagnant. It sucks but it's the current roster construct. Toussaint is just too out of control in tight situations, but he has to play. There's going to be a lot of growing pains but there's only going to be a handful of games where Iowa shoots poorly. Unfortunately it happened in one of the easiest remaining games.
 

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No CJ is huge right now. Key on Garza and Wieskamp and make everyone else beat you. Pretty simple gameplan without other legit scoring options.
 

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Pemsl is that guy at the Y that tries to do everything all fancy but just fucks it up. He can’t even hand the ball to the ref without a sweet move.
 

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Kreiner is fucking retarded. So is Pemsl. Should have played with 4 out there.

 

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21 points, 7 rebounds and 2 assists for Wieskamp. Anyone looking at that line minus his 3 point shooting would say it was a good game.

Nope. He was passive and this was the game where he could have and easily should have had 40+ points. He gave up shot after shot after shot after shot so guys like Kreiner and Toussaint and Connor could chuck from three.

Fran has got to fucking coach him better. The next time he gives it up near the end of the clock so a terrible shooter can take a shot instead should get him sat on the bench.
 
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Unless CJ gets back quick and we stay healthy, it's just going to be an NIT team. It sucks but being this depleted there's just no balance. It's damn near impossible to win in today's game when they can sag 7 feet off 60% of the lineup.
 

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Joe Weiskamp makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X.
 

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Pemsl is that guy at the Y that tries to do everything all fancy but just fucks it up. He can’t even hand the ball to the ref without a sweet move.
He plays like he thinks he's really fucking good. One handed rebounds. Super fancy, retarded passes.
 

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Wieskamp has taken 3 free throws in the last 3 games. He is fully capable of taking the ball to the rim and getting fouled. If he doesn't start to get far more aggressive on nights when his jumper isn't falling, he is going to be a mediocre player.
 
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21 points, 7 rebounds and 2 assists for Wieskamp. Anyone looking at that line minus his 3 point shooting would say it was a good game.

Nope. He was passive and this was the game where he could have and easily should have had 40+ points. He gave up shot after shot after shot after shot so guys like Kreiner and Toussaint and Connor could chuck from three.

Fran has got to fucking coach him better. The next time he gives it up near the end of the clock so a terrible shooter can take a shot instead should get him sat on the bench.
Yes and no. You can't take him off the court and even when he did, he didn't learn. You know they're telling him to shoot it when open, fake and drive when they close hard. Has to come from within. And he can't shrink because he misses early, a coach can't fix that.
 

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I don’t like those kinds of passes
 

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21 points, 7 rebounds and 2 assists for Wieskamp. Anyone looking at that line minus his 3 point shooting would say it was a good game.

Nope. He was passive and this was the game where he could have and easily should have had 40+ points. He gave up shot after shot after shot after shot so guys like Kreiner and Toussaint and Connor could chuck from three.

Fran has got to fucking coach him better. The next time he gives it up near the end of the clock so a terrible shooter can take a shot instead should get him sat on the bench.
Yes and no. You can't take him off the court and even when he did, he didn't learn. You know they're telling him to shoot it when open, fake and drive when they close hard. Has to come from within. And he can't shrink because he misses early, a coach can't fix that.
I'm talking like a 10 second benching. Enough to sit him down and beat it into his head until he gets it.
 

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Remember against Syracuse how bohannon kept launching 3 after 3 even after starting cold? Joe needs to watch that tape.
 
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Took the lead on Joe's one made 3 with 12:39 left and felt like we had the offense cooking. 0-7 from 3 the rest of the way with like 7 turnovers.
 

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21 points, 7 rebounds and 2 assists for Wieskamp. Anyone looking at that line minus his 3 point shooting would say it was a good game.

Nope. He was passive and this was the game where he could have and easily should have had 40+ points. He gave up shot after shot after shot after shot so guys like Kreiner and Toussaint and Connor could chuck from three.

Fran has got to fucking coach him better. The next time he gives it up near the end of the clock so a terrible shooter can take a shot instead should get him sat on the bench.
For who???
 

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Unless CJ gets back quick and we stay healthy, it's just going to be an NIT team. It sucks but being this depleted there's just no balance. It's damn near impossible to win in today's game when they can sag 7 feet off 60% of the lineup.
It is beyond depleted at this point. They are playing 6 healthy guys. You could count Pemsl, but he very clearly is a shell of himself. Even tonight I think he played like 8 mintues. Connor also was puking his guts out the last few days and hadn't practiced.

Bakari also needs to at least be aggressive towards the hoop if he is unwilling to shoot.
 

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21 points, 7 rebounds and 2 assists for Wieskamp. Anyone looking at that line minus his 3 point shooting would say it was a good game.

Nope. He was passive and this was the game where he could have and easily should have had 40+ points. He gave up shot after shot after shot after shot so guys like Kreiner and Toussaint and Connor could chuck from three.

Fran has got to fucking coach him better. The next time he gives it up near the end of the clock so a terrible shooter can take a shot instead should get him sat on the bench.
For who???
 

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Garza missed that one bunny, but he was a fucking warrior once again. 16 points and 18 rebounds on 11 shots. Didn't get any calls despite being beat on multiple times.
 

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There are only two people on the entire team you have to guard right now. That’s going to be a problem.
 

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Ridiculously bad from 3 and they were unconscious. Move on.
 

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I like Toussaint, but he almost gave me autism tonight.

After a live ball turnover resulting in a layup, he grabs the ball and throws it to Kriener inches from the baseline. Kriener was actually in the process of walking out of bounds in order to inbound it.

If Ryan doesn't manage to toe the line, my brain would have given up.
 

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I actually think Toussaint isn't being aggressive enough when it comes to looking to score. He can beat his man off the dribble and he is strong as fuck. Let him go to the rim more. It at a minimum will draw defenders away from Garza.
 
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Fran talking about probably taking too many 3's, could have done this or that "but the interesting thing was how open Joe was." Then credited him for getting putbacks and buckets inside. His usual backing up his players while kind of sneaking in, come the fuck on Joe.

Thought we settled too often 2nd half but if guys are open wants them to shoot it. Then got crazy with some turnovers late.
 

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They should have had Luka working in the high post feeding Joe on the block all second half. Most of his points were coming off of rebounds anyways.
 

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Fran talking about probably taking too many 3's, could have done this or that "but the interesting thing was how open Joe was." Then credited him for getting putbacks and buckets inside. His usual backing up his players while kind of sneaking in, come the fuck on Joe.

Thought we settled too often 2nd half but if guys are open wants them to shoot it. Then got crazy with some turnovers late.
He threw in a comment about “he still found a way to get 21 points and I told him I’m proud of the effort he gave.”

I am a bit concerned that fran has no idea on CJ’s injury, even saying, “right now he’s day to day. If they tell us we need to shut him down, we shut him down. We weren’t playing 4 on 5 and need others to step up.”
 

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Watching some of the game back, and Wieskamp was doing essentially fake hustle on the offensive end. He didn't want the ball most of the time. He floated way away from the ball and wouldn't come hard to the ball to get it when he had the chance.

I've never seen a really good offensive player so terrified as he was in the first half when he found no other option than to shoot the ball in the lane when the defender flew by. There was also multiple times he got a rebound and could have easily gone right back up and passed out of the lane.

Played like a reluctant coward much of the night.
 

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There's going to be some games like this. Not enough shooters without Nunge, Jbo, and now CJ and the offense can be stagnant. It sucks but it's the current roster construct. Toussaint is just too out of control in tight situations, but he has to play. There's going to be a lot of growing pains but there's only going to be a handful of games where Iowa shoots poorly. Unfortunately it happened in one of the easiest remaining games.
dude, we had three guys shooting 38%, 42%, and 46% from 3pt go a combined 1-20 or whatever.

just flush it and move on.
 

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How many games has he played? I think today is the halfway point.

he has to be a couple over the limit.
 
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Did Pemsl really shoot a fucking three tonight?

Then commits back to back turnovers where he tries to thread the needle on a pass, and lets a perfect pass bounce off his hands out of bounds.

He’s been so shitty.
 
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