New DC

[AZmessDAWG]

lol

 

[MikeyJoe]

Which is an inherently silly argument. The fact that they're coaches doesn't make them right - after all, not every coach does things the same way. So how could you possibly know that the way our coaches do something in particular can't be questioned?

 

[AZmessDAWG]

I'm a coach apologist and I've never denied it. I just think in this case its silly to be pissed about someone being named the DC.

Now play calling, substitute patterns, etc...I get the questioning. I do it too....sometimes. But this, no one knows. We're debating, its a message board, etc...I get it. But really, if someone gets PISSED about PP being named DC, thats silly IMO.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

why arent more random fans hired a coaches?

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Which is an inherently silly argument. The fact that they're coaches doesn't make them right - after all, not every coach does things the same way. So how could you possibly know that the way our coaches do something in particular can't be questioned?

No but it doesn't make them WRONG either. They make decisions based off information they have. They're only wrong when it doesn't work and right when it does. Its the nature of the profession.

 

[BBK]

JFC at this thread.

 

[atemp]

Coaches are the beacons for both moral behavior and intellectual thought/general mental ability (clock management). Let's face it these guys weren't pushing their intellectual curiosity or critical thinking ability at educational institutions.

Iowa Football is heading toward the crapper or at least mediocrity, it's fairly obvious to most that follow the program. Sure you have the positive people thinking Kirk will turn it around like he did 10 years ago, however times have changed and unfortunately Kirk like most who have had success in the past become less open to change.

Gary Barta is going to have a major problem after next year's mediocre and disappointing season. He'll be stuck with a coach, his ego, his heavy contract that doesn't expire until 2020, and a fan base with dwindling interest in the program.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Dwindling interest?

 

[cjhawks]

Iowa Football is heading toward the crapper or at least mediocrity, it's fairly obvious to most that follow the program.

a fan base with dwindling interest in the program.

Lol wut?!

 

[atemp]

Dwindling interest?

Yes, it's usually what happens after the frustration stage.

It's coming. I would say I'm ambivalent right now and a wait and see mode, however I would say many other boosters opinions are shifting.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Hmm...interesting.

They seemed to fill Kinnick every Saturday during those 22 straight years of losing seasons.

 

[atemp]

Iowa Football is heading toward the crapper or at least mediocrity, it's fairly obvious to most that follow the program.

a fan base with dwindling interest in the program.

Lol wut?!

I know everyone is pumped about Keokuk (or Kee-cucK) QB and the high-powered offense and defense returning.

 

[atemp]

Hmm...interesting.

They seemed to fill Kinnick every Saturday during those 22 straight years of losing seasons.

They weren't filled, and didn't have seat licenses ("donations") attached to the price of a ticket.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Oh

 

[hawkeyealum]

Have you even listened to Norm talk about his other jobs? He was a blitzing fool at other places. He coached at Iowa a certain way for a reason...his boss.

Plus people are discounting the perspective that as an assistant you have to coach the way your boss tells you to, knowing that if you ever got a chance there would be SO many things you would do differently.

And KOK ran a spread - I get it. I just feel that the landscape of college football is changing (ie more spreads, etc) and I hope KF realizes this and starts to adjust his philosophy a bit more, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. I think if you bring in an outside who has some experience running a different sort of defense Iowa would be harder to prepare for.

If you bring in Parker I don't see that shift taking place as much and we will still lose to Northwestern and Indiana.

Dude you aren't getting it. Whoever the DC is will run the defense KF wants him to run. Yeah you're talking about a fresh face and perspective, I get it. But there's also something to be said for promoting from within. What if PP IS the right guy for the job? We're indicting him based on our feelings on how the defense has performed under Norm the last 2 years. What if a lot of that was out of PP's control?

I disagree with you about "not getting it" I understand that the DC will run a defense the KF primarily wants him to run but I tend to believe that KF knows he needs a change which is why he may be looking externally.

Its much easier to change a defensive philosophy by hiring a coach that runs a different defense than you have for 10 years than by promoting a guy who has learned to run a defense from the previous DC, and asking him to change.

Your stance seems to be suggesting you don't think KF will be making any philosophical changes at all and I disagree with that notion. If he wasn't at least looking for a change, you have to assume Parker would get the job and it would be announced weeks ago.

 

[atemp]

I'm assuming you also saw this trend in attitude and were on top of the mood shift toward Alford and The Criminal.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

And KOK ran a spread - I get it. I just feel that the landscape of college football is changing (ie more spreads, etc) and I hope KF realizes this and starts to adjust his philosophy a bit more, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. I think if you bring in an outside who has some experience running a different sort of defense Iowa would be harder to prepare for.

If you bring in Parker I don't see that shift taking place as much and we will still lose to Northwestern and Indiana.

Dude you aren't getting it. Whoever the DC is will run the defense KF wants him to run. Yeah you're talking about a fresh face and perspective, I get it. But there's also something to be said for promoting from within. What if PP IS the right guy for the job? We're indicting him based on our feelings on how the defense has performed under Norm the last 2 years. What if a lot of that was out of PP's control?

I disagree with you about "not getting it" I understand that the DC will run a defense the KF primarily wants him to run but I tend to believe that KF knows he needs a change which is why he may be looking externally.

Its much easier to change a defensive philosophy by hiring a coach that runs a different defense than you have for 10 years than by promoting a guy who has learned to run a defense from the previous DC, and asking him to change.

Your stance seems to be suggesting you don't think KF will be making any philosophical changes at all and I disagree with that notion. If he wasn't at least looking for a change, you have to assume Parker would get the job and it would be announced weeks ago.

Maybe. Or he just wants to make sure he's doing his due dilligence and hiring the most qualified person. Maybe he was told by administration to do a thorough candidate search.

I would concede that it seems to be trending towards your way of thinking as far as why its taken so long. If he was promoting from within, it'd be done by now one would think.

I just think a lot of people are going to be disappointed if we hire someone outside of the program yet on 3rd on 7 against a 5 wide set we roll out the 4-3 and put Morris on the slot receiver.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

my 86 year old grandma still talks about attending every iowa football game for 60 years or whatever and that they were fucking terrible for many of them until hayden came, "just awful" as she says, but they still had a blast and the stands will full (if not completely sold out).

 

[douglasbader]

I hate to agree with atemp on anything, but my feeling is that the trend is actually turning more and more to Ferentz wearing out his welcome and this whole thing ending badly.

My guess is I am starting to feel this way because of the day and time it is right now and that could easily change by signing day or when he names the new coaches, but there is a sense that Kirk Ferentz is his second go around of having to pull off some major changes like he did in 2007 to get Iowa back on track.

I don't think recruiting is going to end up as well as it could have this year and Iowa is going to miss on the majority of the remaining recruits. Golden committed and then backed out to stay at Penn State, Kozan will go to Auburn or get a late offer from Ohio State when they miss out on Diamond, Jaleel Johnson will back out and go to Michigan State, Lynch will pick Penn State or even Ole' Miss, Lohn is going to somewhere else, Curry will follow Kaz to Nebrantska and Iowa will end up having to offer a bunch of farm boys and 2* MAC recruits at the last second.

I guess for me personally the Marcus Coker transfer really turned me sour on Iowa Football right now. Even with all of the crap that has gone on, I really thought Iowa could have a great shot at turning things around next year, but I think Coker leaving will put a dent in that no matter how good Garmon and Lynch are. Vandenberg not ever really showing a bit of ability to stop shitting his pants or the coaching staff knowing how to use him properly is discouraging.

This is just the second straight year where December - February have been a fucking nightmare. DJK drug house, A-Rob grades and weed, Hampton transfer, Rhabdo, McCall rape allegations, Coker rape allegations, Kaz leaving (not bad) and potentially costing Iowa 2-3 d-line recruits, highly ranked players backing out, and dragging feet on naming a coordinator have absolutely dwindled my interest right now.

Like I said, name a good D-Coordinator and hit on a few recruits and I will likely change right back around, but shit doesn't look that great today.

I forgot the reason I posted in this thread. If Phil Parker is named D-Coordinator, he may do just fine, but I really won't have much interest until Big Ten play starts next year as that will absolutely signal that literally nothing has changed with Ferentz and virtually no new blood was brought into the program as Woods has already been a psuedo-coach for years and the one new face on staff will likely be another internal voice or so low on the ladder he won't be heard outside the position he coaches.

The non-conference schedule is as weak as it comes and will prove nothing until at least the Penn State game.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Welcome back

 

[hawkeyealum]

Morris on a slot WR on 3rd & 7 will be a disappoint no matter who the DC is.

I really just want them to name someone so we can keep some of these recruits and move on. I really hope Jaleel doesn't back out.

 

[atemp]

my 86 year old grandma still talks about attending every iowa football game for 60 years or whatever and that they were fucking terrible for many of them until hayden came, "just awful" as she says, but they still had a blast and the stands will full (if not completely sold out).

These were great times, who can forget the sundrenched skies of a fall afternoon and bringing a blanket and basket filled with Maid-Rites/ground beef sandwiches to sit on the lawn in the northeast corner of the endzone. Iowa can look forward to receiving state funds to help run its athletic department once again, just like Iowa State and UNI do currently.

 

[cjhawks]

Hey doug, good to see you posting again.

 

[scottsdalehawk]

great post doug.....i think you did a nice job of summing up how many iowa fans feel, including myself. the sky is not falling but it has not been a good 15 months for iowa football.

 

[douglasbader]

Here is what has happened since the end of the season:

1. Marcus Grant, talented first commit from the 2010 class who played as a true freshman transfers citing "family reasons" which later turn out to be sort of bullshit
2. McCall transfers after rape allegations
3. Coker suspended with no explanation, expected to come back and then transfers due to some sort of rape allegation and University demanded apology
4. Kaz leaves for Nebrantska and causes Iowa to miss on Sheffield and then actively pursues another recruit that was ready to commit and convinces him to visit Nebrantska. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Drew Ott get a last second offer and de-commit if Nebrantska finds a scholarship.
5. AJ Derby, a 4* legacy Iowa City born kid transfers
6. Jaleel Johnson, 4* DT and early commit who has been the most vocal in his support of Iowa suddenly starts to back track and is now visiting Michigan State 3 days before Signing Day
7. Golden commits to Iowa and then switches back to Penn State
8. Ferentz drags his feet on hiring D-Coordinator. Right or wrong, the perception is that good news for the program is desperately needed before signing day and this would go a long way to helping that.

The only good things that have happened are Iowa got Greg Garmon and a couple of JUCO players.

 

[cloudhawk]

This kind of stuff is why I am glad I am a Hawkeye fan- not a good Hawkeye fan- or a national championship Hawkeye fan.

I don't have to get all stressed about some 17 year old whims, whether or not the schedule is weak or strong- I don't have to worry about whether the stands are full or not or whether iowa is currently in 2nd place overall or 8th place overall.

When the Hawks are on I will do what I can to see the game if it is at all possible. I appreciate and enjoy when they win but it is not a personal shot across the bow if they lose to the fucking gophers and i have to deal with a little shit from my gopher buddies while they enjoy the highlight of their season.

I have watched the Hawks play pretty well in a BCS win, in decent bowl games against good competition and i have watched them lose in spectacularly shitty fashion to horrible teams.

I really enjoy watching those who have almost a bipolar love-hate relationship with something that overall you wouldn't walk away from regardless of what happens. the stress some of the things that happen cause fans is really pretty fun to watch unfold.

And some of you guys really, really get into it- I love that. It is great fun to watch and learn things from you guys.

 

[castichawk24]

I hate to agree with atemp on anything, but my feeling is that the trend is actually turning more and more to Ferentz wearing out his welcome and this whole thing ending badly.

My guess is I am starting to feel this way because of the day and time it is right now and that could easily change by signing day or when he names the new coaches, but there is a sense that Kirk Ferentz is his second go around of having to pull off some major changes like he did in 2007 to get Iowa back on track.

I don't think recruiting is going to end up as well as it could have this year and Iowa is going to miss on the majority of the remaining recruits. Golden committed and then backed out to stay at Penn State, Kozan will go to Auburn or get a late offer from Ohio State when they miss out on Diamond, Jaleel Johnson will back out and go to Michigan State, Lynch will pick Penn State or even Ole' Miss, Lohn is going to somewhere else, Curry will follow Kaz to Nebrantska and Iowa will end up having to offer a bunch of farm boys and 2* MAC recruits at the last second.

I guess for me personally the Marcus Coker transfer really turned me sour on Iowa Football right now. Even with all of the crap that has gone on, I really thought Iowa could have a great shot at turning things around next year, but I think Coker leaving will put a dent in that no matter how good Garmon and Lynch are. Vandenberg not ever really showing a bit of ability to stop shitting his pants or the coaching staff knowing how to use him properly is discouraging.

This is just the second straight year where December - February have been a fucking nightmare. DJK drug house, A-Rob grades and weed, Hampton transfer, Rhabdo, McCall rape allegations, Coker rape allegations, Kaz leaving (not bad) and potentially costing Iowa 2-3 d-line recruits, highly ranked players backing out, and dragging feet on naming a coordinator have absolutely dwindled my interest right now.

Like I said, name a good D-Coordinator and hit on a few recruits and I will likely change right back around, but shit doesn't look that great today.

I forgot the reason I posted in this thread. If Phil Parker is named D-Coordinator, he may do just fine, but I really won't have much interest until Big Ten play starts next year as that will absolutely signal that literally nothing has changed with Ferentz and virtually no new blood was brought into the program as Woods has already been a psuedo-coach for years and the one new face on staff will likely be another internal voice or so low on the ladder he won't be heard outside the position he coaches.

The non-conference schedule is as weak as it comes and will prove nothing until at least the Penn State game.

Welcome back, douglasbader!

 

[douglasbader]

I know this is anecdotal evidence and the weakest kind, but even a guy like my Dad who doesn't follow anything on the internet or recruiting is calling me up and asking what in the hell is going on with Ferentz and the program.

He is a traditional newspaper reader and sees the McCall transfer with no explanation, sees the Coker suspension with no explanation and then transfer with subsequent rape allegation story, sees and assistant coach leave for a rival program and the same position, sees AJ Derby leave after thinking he was ok with the switch to defense and the fact Iowa still haven't hired a D-Coordinator while other programs have lost theirs and hired already and even 60 year old common fans are shaking their head.

Add this into the fact that his own two eyes tell him that Ferentz is a subborn son of a bitch who is still running the same predictable shit week after week and I can tell you his interest has dwindled.

 

[Gushawk]

I know this is anecdotal evidence and the weakest kind, but even a guy like my Dad who doesn't follow anything on the internet or recruiting is calling me up and asking what in the hell is going on with Ferentz and the program.

He is a traditional newspaper reader and sees the McCall transfer with no explanation, sees the Coker suspension with no explanation and then transfer with subsequent rape allegation story, sees and assistant coach leave for a rival program and the same position, sees AJ Derby leave after thinking he was ok with the switch to defense and the fact Iowa still haven't hired a D-Coordinator while other programs have lost theirs and hired already and even 60 year old common fans are shaking their head.

Add this into the fact that his own two eyes tell him that Ferentz is a subborn son of a bitch who is still running the same predictable shit week after week and I can tell you his interest has dwindled.

Very similar to my dad's unsolicited opinion on Iowa football provided this week. "What the hell is going on up there? Seems like things are headed in the wrong direction."

 

[douglasbader]

This kind of stuff is why I am glad I am a Hawkeye fan- not a good Hawkeye fan- or a national championship Hawkeye fan.

I don't have to get all stressed about some 17 year old whims, whether or not the schedule is weak or strong- I don't have to worry about whether the stands are full or not or whether iowa is currently in 2nd place overall or 8th place overall.

When the Hawks are on I will do what I can to see the game if it is at all possible. I appreciate and enjoy when they win but it is not a personal shot across the bow if they lose to the fucking gophers and i have to deal with a little shit from my gopher buddies while they enjoy the highlight of their season.

I have watched the Hawks play pretty well in a BCS win, in decent bowl games against good competition and i have watched them lose in spectacularly shitty fashion to horrible teams.

I really enjoy watching those who have almost a bipolar love-hate relationship with something that overall you wouldn't walk away from regardless of what happens. the stress some of the things that happen cause fans is really pretty fun to watch unfold.

And some of you guys really, really get into it- I love that. It is great fun to watch and learn things from you guys.

Not sure if this was directed at me Cloud, but I can assure you that I am not actually "stressed" in real life about Iowa or their Football team. If anything, I just am shrugging my shoulders or shaking my head and am glad that I can flip over to my first love of Iowa Basketball and know that it will be back in a big way very soon.

You are correct, mostly on TOS, that there are people who genuinely freak out in real life about this shit.

Either way, I feel like you do, when Iowa Football is on TV I will be excited for it no matter what and will watch. I just won't follow all of the little details quite as closely.

 

[Jimmie Dimmick]

when did Golden commit and back out?

 

[douglasbader]

I know this is anecdotal evidence and the weakest kind, but even a guy like my Dad who doesn't follow anything on the internet or recruiting is calling me up and asking what in the hell is going on with Ferentz and the program.

He is a traditional newspaper reader and sees the McCall transfer with no explanation, sees the Coker suspension with no explanation and then transfer with subsequent rape allegation story, sees and assistant coach leave for a rival program and the same position, sees AJ Derby leave after thinking he was ok with the switch to defense and the fact Iowa still haven't hired a D-Coordinator while other programs have lost theirs and hired already and even 60 year old common fans are shaking their head.

Add this into the fact that his own two eyes tell him that Ferentz is a subborn son of a bitch who is still running the same predictable shit week after week and I can tell you his interest has dwindled.

Very similar to my dad's unsolicited opinion on Iowa football provided this week. "What the hell is going on up there? Seems like things are headed in the wrong direction."

That was almost my Dad's exact line when I picked up the phone.

He knows I follow this more closely and he was just perplexed by everything and coupled with the losing and disinterested look by players and coaches on the sidelines and he thinks that Ferentz is either losing respect or control over his program.

 

[cloudhawk]

No one directly- just overall. trust me I appreciate that some of you guys really pay attention because I wouldn't give a squirt of piss about any of this stuff until they show up on my TV set on Saturdays.

To be honest it probably was better before everything was known 2 seconds after it happened in some detail by people who are able to just fill in whatever details they want to.

 

[douglasbader]

when did Golden commit and back out?

Eric Johnson sent out a tweet a couple of weeks ago with his standard "welcome to the family!" message.

Nobody could figure out who it was for days until they eventually found out it was Golden who committed. The problem was the next day after he committed Penn State hired O'Brien and they immediately were on him and convinced him to wait on switching until they could get him on campus and talk to him.

He went on his visit last week, they switched him from Defensive Back to Wide Receiver and he told them he would stay with Penn State.

 

[BBK]

I like Doug better when he's negative. Welcome back, dougie!

 

[MikeyJoe]

Why would negative thoughts about your favorite team not acceptable? In other words, why is it weird that someone who gets excited when their team is doing well would be disappointed when they aren't?

I mean, I'm not gonna beat my kids or choke a hobo or anything if Iowa sucks at football, but of course I'd be disappointed, just as I enjoy it when they do well.

 

[douglasbader]

No one directly- just overall. trust me I appreciate that some of you guys really pay attention because I wouldn't give a squirt of piss about any of this stuff until they show up on my TV set on Saturdays.

To be honest it probably was better before everything was known 2 seconds after it happened in some detail by people who are able to just fill in whatever details they want to.

I agree.

This is why I am not going to follow or give a shit as much about the little details just like in the old days before the internet. It was fun for a time, but it has gotten old and I found I don't enjoy the games nearly as much.

 

[Mo T]

So, was Parker officially named, or is this just a rumor thread?

 

[L. Wade Childress]

good post by doug. i will also add that- even though i dont personally agree with the sentiment- that KF's salary just adds fuel to the fire. the economy blows, people are struggling, and to the average fan it appears that KF is making absurd money to be very mediocre on the field and even worse off it.

 

[douglasbader]

good post by doug. i will also add that- even though i dont personally agree with the sentiment- that KF's salary just adds fuel to the fire. the economy blows, people are struggling, and to the average fan it appears that KF is making absurd money to be very mediocre on the field and even worse off it.

I think the salary argument is stupid, but it gives the idiots easy ammo.

Iowa has always had some sort of attrition, but 2 years back to back like this with nothing but awful, headline making news has been too much if you aren't winning on top of it.

The other thing is with all of these player incidents, especially the ones sexual in nature, it just starts to wear thin and reflect poorly on Ferentz even if he really has nothing to do with them.

 

[atemp]

Has anyone heard Ed Donatell as a possible DC? Heard it mentioned by Morehouse a week or so ago as a possibility. He is from Ohio and his son is/was a walk-on on the team, so there is some connection to Ferentz and he is still coaching in the playoffs for the 49ers.

He gets blamed for the Packers/Eagles 4th and 26th play in playoffs years ago, but that game was Mike Sherman's fault. On a 4th and less than a yard on the 35 yard line and under 2:00 min with Ahman Green already rushing for 200+ in the game Ferentz decides to punt the ball into the endzone.

 

[Will McCoy]

He gets blamed for the Packers/Eagles 4th and 26th play in playoffs years ago, but that game was Mike Sherman's fault. On a 4th and less than a yard on the 35 yard line and under 2:00 min with Ahman Green already rushing for 200+ in the game Ferentz decides to punt the ball into the endzone.

My head hurts.

 

[cloudhawk]

Why would negative thoughts about your favorite team not acceptable? In other words, why is it weird that someone who gets excited when their team is doing well would be disappointed when they aren't?

I mean, I'm not gonna beat my kids or choke a hobo or anything if Iowa sucks at football, but of course I'd be disappointed, just as I enjoy it when they do well.

Thats not what i am saying - i obviously like it better when the teams i like win- what i am referring to is the feelings if we dont get johnson the program is on the dowslide and if we are not in the nc or championship discussion i am not interested in iowa football or the head coach needs to be fired. Dude first of all you are not going to walk out on the hawks if you are any kind of fan- second the program can get along fine without a 17 yr old who likes msu because of some retweet.

I just think it is funny that we as fans can get so worked up over it- sure i used to play along with it and tweek people about it but i am not going to do much of that anymore

That was more my point

 

[CamelTones]

No one directly- just overall. trust me I appreciate that some of you guys really pay attention because I wouldn't give a squirt of piss about any of this stuff until they show up on my TV set on Saturdays.

To be honest it probably was better before everything was known 2 seconds after it happened in some detail by people who are able to just fill in whatever details they want to.

I agree.

This is why I am not going to follow or give a shit as much about the little details just like in the old days before the internet. It was fun for a time, but it has gotten old and I found I don't enjoy the games nearly as much.

I've switched to this thinking as well pretty much since I saw the open practice. I knew the defense was going to be horrible and told everyone that I talk to about the Hawks that Iowa would be a 6-6 to 7-5 caliber team but everyone said 'Ferentz will figure it out, they'll go 9-3 or 10-2, the talent is too good and the schedule is so easy.'

I pretty much knew right then that once November got here, everyone would be bitching about Ferentz and how the program is 'stale'. I have felt the whole time that I would rather Kirk take his time and hire a better defensive coordinator and lose a couple of recruits rather than rush into the hire just to save a couple of 18 year old's that won't make an impact on the program for a couple years if at all.

Watching people freak out last night about Johnson was hilarious, they all think that Kirk needs to call him up etc. when they have no idea if he has already done that or what they are telling the recruits. These sites were awesome in 2000-2001 when you got actual information and good discussion going, now its just a bunch of 'Fire Ferentz is Iowa doesn't go 13-0 8 years in a row'

 

[nolookpass]

NTSA.

I f@#$@ing hate Iowa fans!@#$#@!!!!

 

[scottsdalehawk]

No one directly- just overall. trust me I appreciate that some of you guys really pay attention because I wouldn't give a squirt of piss about any of this stuff until they show up on my TV set on Saturdays.

To be honest it probably was better before everything was known 2 seconds after it happened in some detail by people who are able to just fill in whatever details they want to.

I agree.

This is why I am not going to follow or give a shit as much about the little details just like in the old days before the internet. It was fun for a time, but it has gotten old and I found I don't enjoy the games nearly as much.

I've switched to this thinking as well pretty much since I saw the open practice. I knew the defense was going to be horrible and told everyone that I talk to about the Hawks that Iowa would be a 6-6 to 7-5 caliber team but everyone said 'Ferentz will figure it out, they'll go 9-3 or 10-2, the talent is too good and the schedule is so easy.'

I pretty much knew right then that once November got here, everyone would be bitching about Ferentz and how the program is 'stale'. I have felt the whole time that I would rather Kirk take his time and hire a better defensive coordinator and lose a couple of recruits rather than rush into the hire just to save a couple of 18 year old's that won't make an impact on the program for a couple years if at all.

Watching people freak out last night about Johnson was hilarious, they all think that Kirk needs to call him up etc. when they have no idea if he has already done that or what they are telling the recruits. These sites were awesome in 2000-2001 when you got actual information and good discussion going, now its just a bunch of 'Fire Ferentz is Iowa doesn't go 13-0 8 years in a row'

Saying the program is stale does not imply KF needs to be fired. College Football is changing. Iowa needs to change with it or risk being left behind.

 

[douglasbader]

NTSA.

I f@#$@ing hate Iowa fans!@#$#@!!!!

We know, you hate Ferentz and love coked up teenagers and kids in their early 20's.

 

[nolookpass]

NTSA.

I f@#$@ing hate Iowa fans!@#$#@!!!!

We know, you hate Ferentz and love coked up teenagers and kids in their early 20's.

seems like some dude, I cant recall who exactly, posted early last fall his passion for Iowa football had waned.

wise beyond his years, IMO.

 

[douglasbader]

NTSA.

I f@#$@ing hate Iowa fans!@#$#@!!!!

We know, you hate Ferentz and love coked up teenagers and kids in their early 20's.

seems like some dude, I cant recall who exactly, posted early last fall his passion for Iowa football had waned.

wise beyond his years, IMO.

Sounds like some guy who would invite DJK over for Easter so he could tell everyone he was close to him.

 

[nolookpass]

We know, you hate Ferentz and love coked up teenagers and kids in their early 20's.

seems like some dude, I cant recall who exactly, posted early last fall his passion for Iowa football had waned.

wise beyond his years, IMO.

Sounds like some guy who would invite DJK over for Easter so he could tell everyone he was close to him.

lol. yeah, that's exactly what happened.