**Official 2020 Iowa Hawkeye Football Offseason Thread**

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Shocking that they both are leaving.

It was the right decision for them, they're both special players and great representatives of Kirk's program at Iowa
 

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Lol. That’s what I thought. Is every senior doing one of these now?
I dunno about every senior but it seems pretty common the last few years.

Stone's statement seemed pretty standard to me; I think people are trying really hard to force a narrative that isn't there with him.
 
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I dunno about every senior but it seems pretty common the last few years.

Stone's statement seemed pretty standard to me; I think people are trying really hard to force a narrative that isn't there with him.
Nothing stands out from his statement when compared to others. I think it's pretty simple with Geno, he plays at a position that is tough on the body and the difference in draft position from this season to a senior season next year isn't worth another season of pounding on the body for free. Go ahead and get paid. This decision is similar in ways to Tyler Sash's years ago.
 
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Its a combination of a lot of things, but I bet deep down Kirk knows he missed a window the last 2 years to win the division.

Running game the last 2 years
Stanley being "inconsistent both years"
Play calling in a couple games etc.

The talent was there for more.
Having said that, they won 19 games which is excellent at a school like Iowa.
Like this?
 

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Stanley was a very good college QB, unfortunately he's not that type that can elevate a team higher than what their talent is. His personality doesn't really allow him to and there's nothing wrong with that.
 

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Stanley was a very good college QB, unfortunately he's not that type that can elevate a team higher than what their talent is. His personality doesn't really allow him to and there's nothing wrong with that.
He walloped Ohio State and USC. I don't think his personality had anything to do with overthrowing Hockenson, or others that would have left Iowa in the top ten. He just overthrows sometimes. And sometimes his offensive line was his worst enemy, like at Michigan.
 
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Are you saying that second interception was Stanley's fault?
Noah Fant was a dipshit, but that pick is on Stanley. Stanley changed the play, which means Fant had to communicate that to the outside receiver. Stanley should also have checked that all teammates were ready. Since they weren't, instead of snapping the ball and throwing to a receiver who is clearly not ready for a pass or even looking at the LOS perhaps call use of the three timeouts.
 

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So they’re down to 86 scholarships but that includes Lois and Gulley.
 

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Sounded like he wasn’t really progressing- maybe injuries were the reason why? Never a good thing to lose OL depth, but Iowa will survive
 
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He was the most mystifying recruit to me. Blew up at the camps and had a lot of positive things written about him from national recruiting guys. I watched him play once and was incredibly unimpressed. Just a big kid playing against smaller kids, not the dominance I was expecting. Spoke to a couple people from his school district and they were kind of pessimistic in their thoughts.

Word on the street was he took some time away during the season, so I'm sure there's a mix of mental and physical issues that stepping away from football will help with. Nothing wrong with that, not everyone is made for D1 football. Best of luck to him in his studies and a happy life.
 

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He was a true freshman, I don't know why everyone was expecting him to be playing right away anyway. I don't think there's any reason not to take him at his word about being injured or to speculate about his lack of mental toughness.
 

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Too bad on Miller, but this will give them some flexibility eventually for grad transfers and maybe taking a shot on a couple of guys late in this signing period.
 

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If he would want to finish school...does he still keep the scholarship but not count against the limit?
 
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Glad to see Hawkeyes getting to the NFL and elevating the program to a degree. At the same time, just a little frustrating we've had 7 early entrants the last two years and couldn't even get a conference title game appearance out of it. If that retarded row boater up north gets there soon I'll die a little inside.
 

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Glad to see Hawkeyes getting to the NFL and elevating the program to a degree. At the same time, just a little frustrating we've had 7 early entrants the last two years and couldn't even get a conference title game appearance out of it. If that retarded row boater up north gets there soon I'll die a little inside.
This is so confusing. Early entries are the reason a team like Iowa has a harder time reaching the conference finals. Any developmental type team (read: 20s-50s recruiting) is going to be hurt the most by early entries.
 
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This is so confusing. Early entries are the reason a team like Iowa has a harder time reaching the conference finals. Any developmental type team (read: 20s-50s recruiting) is going to be hurt the most by early entries.
Meant a title appearance during their time here, obviously once they are gone it is harder going forward. Again just meant that we obviously had talent the last two years as evidenced by all the early entrants, so its frustrating that during the last two years we couldn't take advantage and get to Indy.
 

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Meant a title appearance during their time here, obviously once they are gone it is harder going forward. Again just meant that we obviously had talent the last two years as evidenced by all the early entrants, so its frustrating that during the last two years we couldn't take advantage and get to Indy.
But that's exactly what I mean. A program like Iowa can't afford to lose those guys. It isn't about the year they were here but the year they left when they could have played with the next set of early entry level guys. So a year (or two) with TJ, Fant, Hooker and Nelson playing with the 2019 versions of AJE, Wirfs, etc is where a program like Iowa historically has a good shot at a championship game.
 

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This is so confusing. Early entries are the reason a team like Iowa has a harder time reaching the conference finals. Any developmental type team (read: 20s-50s recruiting) is going to be hurt the most by early entries.
All of those guys were on the team in 2018 when they didn't make it and it's not like AJ, Wirfs, and Stone just suddenly got good this season. It's okay to view that one as a missed opportunity.
 
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But that's exactly what I mean. A program like Iowa can't afford to lose those guys. It isn't about the year they were here but the year they left when they could have played with the next set of early entry level guys. So a year (or two) with TJ, Fant, Hooker and Nelson playing with the 2019 versions of AJE, Wirfs, etc is where a program like Iowa historically has a good shot at a championship game.
The team’s ceiling appeared to be exactly Stanley’s ceiling, which was very good, not great.
 
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Imagine the '02 team without Clark, Steinbach, CJJ and maybe Fred Barr. Then take Bob and Gallery maybe Jared Claude off of the 2003 team.
 

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I think overall it is a net positive. Sure, if any of the 9 early entrants from the past 3 seasons had stayed then maybe Iowa wins the West one of those years. I think the real benefit is long term. Iowa is solidly on the map the last 2 years and this year. It has made getting players like the current TE recruits, some of the DL recruits and others to choose Iowa that wouldn't have.

If that keeps carrying over, even raising the recruiting ranking from the 40's to the 30's or high 20's is going to make a huge difference.
 

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I think overall it is a net positive. Sure, if any of the 9 early entrants from the past 3 seasons had stayed then maybe Iowa wins the West one of those years. I think the real benefit is long term. Iowa is solidly on the map the last 2 years and this year. It has made getting players like the current TE recruits, some of the DL recruits and others to choose Iowa that wouldn't have.

If that keeps carrying over, even raising the recruiting ranking from the 40's to the 30's or high 20's is going to make a huge difference.
 
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Having offensive skill players who are good enough to leave early will make a difference obviously.
 

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Not sure if anyone else saw it, but Harty tweeted that Oliver Martin had "officially" entered the transfer portal.

He's since deleted it.
 

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This could very well be possible but OM transfer rumors have literally happened every single off season. A bit unfortunate for the future, but I’m not sure what would change for him to all of the sudden get on the field next year. Even the year after is dicey with Tracy, Nico, and the other promising looking guys coming up. Hope it isn’t true though because I’d love to see him get a shot at returning punts if they aren’t going to let ISM do it
 

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I mean fuck. Imagine reporting something like this based on a couple of random callers into a radio show. No sources, desperate to break a story. Sad
 
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Let's be real, the guys on the Hawkeye beat who have actual jobs aren't terrible.

Morehouse: good
Leistikow: good
Hlas: YMMV, but I like him

Pharty: Like Morehouse, but if you jammed a railroad tie through his face
 

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Noah Fant was a dipshit, but that pick is on Stanley. Stanley changed the play, which means Fant had to communicate that to the outside receiver. Stanley should also have checked that all teammates were ready. Since they weren't, instead of snapping the ball and throwing to a receiver who is clearly not ready for a pass or even looking at the LOS perhaps call use of the three timeouts.
Plus, it was 1st and goal. Do anything besides right into the hands of the opposing team.
 

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We all know pooper is now firmly ensconced
I don't know. I think that will be reevaluated in the off season. The Ferentz Fear Factor may work in our favor as they watch that Cooper drop, albeit recovered.
 
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