**Official Iowa vs. Ohio St Football Thread - 2:30pm - CBS**

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Guys like Antwan Randle-El, Seneca Wallace, Dan Persa, Steele Janz (lol), Josh Dobbs, Denard Robinson, Terrelle Pryor, et al have terrorized him for years, and his best team was led by Brad Banks, and he still doesn’t fucking get it.
It literally only takes 10 minutes of any non-Iowa college football game.
 

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It was clear on Ohio States first drive that the talent gap was going to be nearly impossible to overcome over 4 quarters. The 2 turnovers by Ohio State kept it closer than it really should have been. Ohio State was living in 3rd or 4th and short with that offensive line.

It was essentially over once Iowa missed the field goal as it was going to take a perfect game to pull the upset.

I guess I wasn’t really bothered by anything that happened during that game. This was always going to be a loss. Iowa could win the rest of their games, they could lose 3 more games. In the end none of it really matters. Make the playoff and get crushed at some point or go to a bowl game no one cares about.
 

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If the wheels don’t fall off, I don’t see how Seth Wallace isn’t the next head coach. Kirk will tell Beth that they need to hire Seth, and I think Beth will go along with it.

And no offense to Seth, but Iowa can do better.
 

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It was clear on Ohio States first drive that the talent gap was going to be nearly impossible to overcome over 4 quarters. The 2 turnovers by Ohio State kept it closer than it really should have been. Ohio State was living in 3rd or 4th and short with that offensive line.

It was essentially over once Iowa missed the field goal as it was going to take a perfect game to pull the upset.

I guess I wasn’t really bothered by anything that happened during that game. This was always going to be a loss. Iowa could win the rest of their games, they could lose 3 more games. In the end none of it really matters. Make the playoff and get crushed at some point or go to a bowl game no one cares about.
I’d only disagree that the moment it was over was when they decided to kick the FG.
 

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If the wheels don’t fall off, I don’t see how Seth Wallace isn’t the next head coach. Kirk will tell Beth that they need to hire Seth, and I think Beth will go along with it.

And no offense to Seth, but Iowa can do better.
I think the program is in pretty good shape. Keeping things in house and continuing the ethos of the program without the shriveled balls in game decision making might be the best path forward.

Of course, I'm rooting for Bert.
 

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If the wheels don’t fall off, I don’t see how Seth Wallace isn’t the next head coach. Kirk will tell Beth that they need to hire Seth, and I think Beth will go along with it.

And no offense to Seth, but Iowa can do better.
I am worried about that. Beth was promoted from within, her first major hire while at Iowa was to just hire someone on staff.
 
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Need better QB play, standing in the pocket too long, fumbles, no velocity on throws. On top of that, a head coach that wants to just keep the game close. Not much chance to beat Ohio State anyway. scores against ranked teams is getting pretty bad.

favorite play is Fischer covering an NFL wide receiver. lack of pass rush is an issue for the secondary
 

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Need better QB play, standing in the pocket too long, fumbles, no velocity on throws. On top of that, a head coach that wants to just keep the game close. Not much chance to beat Ohio State anyway. scores against ranked teams is getting pretty bad.

favorite play is Fischer covering an NFL wide receiver. lack of pass rush is an issue for the secondary
I thought the defense was completely fine for the most part. No one thought Iowa was going to win the game. The problem is that Kirk thought that keeping it 7-0 was somehow advantageous for his team. Anyone could see that in no way was that 7-0 score anywhere close to Iowa being in contention. Maybe when you had Stanzi, Beathard, or Fat Nate back there. But the only conceivable chance you had against OSU with someone like Cade is to be risky and get flat out lucky on big plays, or take advantage of having it be 4th and an inch and not giving them the football, or not attempting the field goal. Watching Vandy and Arkansas after that Iowa game was so fucking dispiriting.

It used to be so fun getting ready for games against top 10 teams. Iowa was flat out feared in those games. That is completely and utterly gone.
 

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Kirk would rather run the program into the ground than let Bert get the Iowa job. He is not a fan.
 
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It was clear on Ohio States first drive that the talent gap was going to be nearly impossible to overcome over 4 quarters. The 2 turnovers by Ohio State kept it closer than it really should have been. Ohio State was living in 3rd or 4th and short with that offensive line.

It was essentially over once Iowa missed the field goal as it was going to take a perfect game to pull the upset.

I guess I wasn’t really bothered by anything that happened during that game. This was always going to be a loss. Iowa could win the rest of their games, they could lose 3 more games. In the end none of it really matters. Make the playoff and get crushed at some point or go to a bowl game no one cares about.
Yeah, it is a decent talent gap and coaching as well. As others have noted, kicking field goals really doesn't do much on the road against a much better team.
Ohio State has a good defense and showed that Iowa's offense is not that much better. The results against the top teams is starting to be a concern. Not sure it is talent level only at this point making up those results
 

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The only thing worse than him staying too long would be Kirk having too much of a say in the next head coach. Handing it off to another vanilla style guy without Kirk's actual great attributes would not be fun.
 

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Kirk’s personal accomplishments mean nothing to me. If he wanted to pass Schembechler, he should have won more games in the time he was given. He can wipe his tears with the gazillion dollars Iowa gave him.
 

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That we give a fuck who Kirk is and isn’t a fan of is stupid. He was a huge fan of his son, Brian.
I don't think any of us give a fuck. Unfortunately it could be a possibility, knowing Kirk, that he would want to have some involvement in who he hands the program over to. And I don't think it's crazy to think that Iowa would honor that.
 

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I don't think any of us give a fuck. Unfortunately it could be a possibility, knowing Kirk, that he would want to have some involvement in who he hands the program over to. And I don't think it's crazy to think that Iowa would honor that.
It is crazy to think that.
 

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Iowa football isn't the Ferentz family business. There's a happy medium where you don't have to kick him out, but he isn't judge jury executioner.
Agreed. But Iowa football is different from a lot of programs. Not many schools have had two coaches the last 45 years. Fry to Ferentz wasn't some crazy departure or anything. I'm just saying I'm reluctant to believe that he won't be involved in the process.
 

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Are you serious?
Yes. Have a meltdown without being a complete retard.

Thinking Kirk won't know when to hang them up is a valid concern. Thinking that Wilson and Goetz, the pair who fired his son, will allow him to control the search to replace him, is stupid.

This won't be taken well today, but I don't think Kirk will even try. He'll put in a good word for Wallace because he clearly thinks Wallace is a good coach, but he isn't going to make it messy.
 

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If the wheels don’t fall off, I don’t see how Seth Wallace isn’t the next head coach. Kirk will tell Beth that they need to hire Seth, and I think Beth will go along with it.

And no offense to Seth, but Iowa can do better.
If KF wants Wallace and Beth doesn't, he could always wait until June to retire like Stoops and force her hand.
 

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When nearly all hope was lost, big dick beth expertly dealt with the bridawg situation.

I have confidence with her handling the end of the kurt era and hiring the next coach.
 

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Yes. Have a meltdown without being a complete retard.

Thinking Kirk won't know when to hang them up is a valid concern. Thinking that Wilson and Goetz, the pair who fired his son, will allow him to control the search to replace him, is stupid.

This won't be taken well today, but I don't think Kirk will even try. He'll put in a good word for Wallace because he clearly thinks Wallace is a good coach, but he isn't going to make it messy.
This is something I never said. I said concern that Kirk will have some involvement in who takes over the program. Do you understand how that is different than "controlling the search to replace him"?

Nice argument against nothing.
 

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If Iowa can beat Washington next week I really do think 10-2 (8-1) is possible. Yes, they would get slaughtered but it sure would be nice to see Iowa get a chance at one more top team after hopefully another 2 months of offensive improvement. The real win would be missing the conf champ game at 10-2 and getting into the CFP as a 10 or 11 seed. But I doubt the committee would do that, so cheering for another bloodbath in Indy seems like our best hope now. As of now we have losses to two Top 11 teams and this can be a salvaged season. But yesterday inspired almost no hope.
 

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Kirk’s personal accomplishments mean nothing to me. If he wanted to pass Schembechler, he should have won more games in the time he was given. He can wipe his tears with the gazillion dollars Iowa gave him.
I guess that's one way to look at it. i figure he's been at Iowa a quarter of a century, so another year ain't gonna matter that much. Besides, on balance he's done a lot of good things at Iowa, and given us some pretty good years of football to enjoy. Afaic, his salary doesn't even enter into the equation. Also, it wouldn't hurt the school or its football program to be able to boast that an Iowa coach holds the record for most wins.
 

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The argument is much stronger with a QB change (“completely different team since Sullivan took over”). Kirk needs to swallow his pride and stupid biases.
 
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It's just so unnecessary. As bad as Kirk's dedication to Petras was, you could almost see why Kirk felt some personal loyalty to him. He liked him, thought he was a leader and unfairly criticized. I disagree, but whatever.

What I don't get is why he is so stuck on a transfer like Cade?
They recruited and paid the guy. KF is stubborn. Nothing will change.
 

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Just be patient. Cade is still getting into game shape. Once he's 100% watch out.
 
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Might be close to accepting the program potentially going to shit for years to see a change. There's strategic, then there's downright pussy, tuck your tail and hope for the best decision making.

It's going to be ugly though, especially in today's new football world. Iowa isn't going to just magically start competing with blue bloods. Those faggots over in Nebrantska went from national championships to being dogshit for YEARS.

Fran is fine but that's about what you're going to get with the football program. There's no money to throw around.

It's all going to shit anyways so whatever.
It’s only going to get worse. Put a bullet in the head of the program and start rebuilding. It should be easier with the NIL but this slow bleeding death we are seeing is way worse. KF needs to go. It should be a retirement not a firing. He has earned that but he hasn’t earned sitting around and dragging the program down. However he is stubborn and will never leave. The money he would be owed will keep him from ever being fired. Let the slow bleed continue.
Guys like Antwan Randle-El, Seneca Wallace, Dan Persa, Steele Janz (lol), Josh Dobbs, Denard Robinson, Terrelle Pryor, et al have terrorized him for years, and his best team was led by Brad Banks, and he still doesn’t fucking get it.
he gets it, he just doesn’t like it and is too stubborn to change. “Backyard football” and all that shit.
 
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