Game Thread **Official Minnesota vs. Iowa Game Thread - 7:00pm on BTN**

[gable_guy]

 

[Geese]

Hahaha.... Mrs. BLP?

 

[Hawkstrat]

https://twitter.com/Derek_S_Burns

This guy breaking down some individual plays, pretty interesting.

 

[The Full Monte]

need to find some JUCO DEs before next year

Inability to get pressure when rushing just 4 is one of the few weaknesses here.

It makes the LB and DB's job soooo much harder

 

[RecreationalGynecologist]

https://twitter.com/Derek_S_Burns

This guy breaking down some individual plays, pretty interesting.

He's a former Gopher OL guy from the late 90s/early 2000s

 

[ClintWalker]

https://twitter.com/Derek_S_Burns

This guy breaking down some individual plays, pretty interesting.

He's a former Gopher OL guy from the late 90s/early 2000s

He's no Ben Bruns.

 

[RecreationalGynecologist]

He was probably better than Bruns

 

[Jimmie Dimmick]

That side judge swallowed his whistle on that Tevaun bump. I got loud. I'm sorry.

 

[MikeyJoe]

It's possible that some of the issues with the defense Saturday were just fatigue. Lack of depth is really starting to show:

http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/stat-pak-taxing-the-defense-20151116

— Cornerback Greg Mabin went down after giving up a 37-yard completion from Leidner to Maye to Iowa’s 2. He was OK, but he was down on the turf long enough for the head official to tell him to leave for a play (Ferentz disputed this to no avail). Fleming replaced him for a play and that was it.

— About midway through the third quarter, defensive end Parker Hesse fell to the turf with what looked like a minor ankle or calf injury or just a cramp. He left for a series and was replaced by fellow redshirt freshman DE Matt Nelson. Hesse re-entered after a series.

— For three series in the fourth quarter, junior DT Faith Ekakitie replaced junior DT Jaleel Johnson. Johnson was in for Minnesota’s final TD drive.

That was it for defensive substitutions.

 

[Lime]

— Kicker Marshall Koehn looked like he might’ve made a 47-yard field goal early in the fourth quarter. The ball sailed high over the right upright. It was ruled wide right and no good. There wasn’t much argument from Iowa’s sideline, because those guys know rule NCAA football instant replay casebook.

“Section 3, Article 1-b of the case book states the following: “Field goal attempts (can be reviewed) if and only if the ball is ruled (b) inside or outside the uprights when it is lower than the top of the uprights. If the ball is higher than the top of the uprights as it crosses the end line, the play may not be reviewed.”

So, the Koehn kick wasn’t reviewable. You might remember Arizona State making one of these against Wisconsin in that crazy horrible officiated game from a few years ago at Arizona State.

I don’t get this rule. I vote for a change, but really, how do you know what’s good and what’s not over the upright?

I think it's @howler who used to gripe about how short the goalposts at Kinnick are. Not sure if it makes a difference on the Koehn kick, but they really are very short uprights.

these are all different angles so the yardage in the background is misleading, but look at how much shorter the arms are compared to the base for Kinnick compared to others.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

I would have thought there was a standard height that everyone had to use.

 

[howler]

— Kicker Marshall Koehn looked like he might’ve made a 47-yard field goal early in the fourth quarter. The ball sailed high over the right upright. It was ruled wide right and no good. There wasn’t much argument from Iowa’s sideline, because those guys know rule NCAA football instant replay casebook.

“Section 3, Article 1-b of the case book states the following: “Field goal attempts (can be reviewed) if and only if the ball is ruled (b) inside or outside the uprights when it is lower than the top of the uprights. If the ball is higher than the top of the uprights as it crosses the end line, the play may not be reviewed.”

So, the Koehn kick wasn’t reviewable. You might remember Arizona State making one of these against Wisconsin in that crazy horrible officiated game from a few years ago at Arizona State.

I don’t get this rule. I vote for a change, but really, how do you know what’s good and what’s not over the upright?

I think it's @howler who used to gripe about how short the goalposts at Kinnick are. Not sure if it makes a difference on the Koehn kick, but they really are very short uprights.

these are all different angles so the yardage in the background is misleading, but look at how much shorter the arms are compared to the base for Kinnick compared to others.

Good memory, Lime. Yes, that's been a crusade of mine ever since I can remember. Iowa's singularly short FG posts have always seemed like they would do more harm than good, and I guess we finally saw that Saturday night.

 

[Lime]

I would have thought there was a standard height that everyone had to use.

the NFL does, it just switched to 35 feet after the Patriots/Ravens controversy a few years ago. I think the NCAA just has a minimum height, which apparently is like 20 feet since that's all the taller Iowa's appear to be.

 

[TJones3312]

Brand new football facility, short goal posts. That's football.

 

[WCFHawkeye]

 

[HiG 2.0]

The UI PD might have the best law enforcement twitter account there is.

 

[Kamala]

It's possible that some of the issues with the defense Saturday were just fatigue. Lack of depth is really starting to show:

http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/stat-pak-taxing-the-defense-20151116

— Cornerback Greg Mabin went down after giving up a 37-yard completion from Leidner to Maye to Iowa’s 2. He was OK, but he was down on the turf long enough for the head official to tell him to leave for a play (Ferentz disputed this to no avail). Fleming replaced him for a play and that was it.

— About midway through the third quarter, defensive end Parker Hesse fell to the turf with what looked like a minor ankle or calf injury or just a cramp. He left for a series and was replaced by fellow redshirt freshman DE Matt Nelson. Hesse re-entered after a series.

— For three series in the fourth quarter, junior DT Faith Ekakitie replaced junior DT Jaleel Johnson. Johnson was in for Minnesota’s final TD drive.

That was it for defensive substitutions.

Good thing we get to play Nebrantska with one less day to rest than normal, while they have 2 weeks off prior to our game

 

[Dr. Zaius]

— Kicker Marshall Koehn looked like he might’ve made a 47-yard field goal early in the fourth quarter. The ball sailed high over the right upright. It was ruled wide right and no good. There wasn’t much argument from Iowa’s sideline, because those guys know rule NCAA football instant replay casebook.

“Section 3, Article 1-b of the case book states the following: “Field goal attempts (can be reviewed) if and only if the ball is ruled (b) inside or outside the uprights when it is lower than the top of the uprights. If the ball is higher than the top of the uprights as it crosses the end line, the play may not be reviewed.”

So, the Koehn kick wasn’t reviewable. You might remember Arizona State making one of these against Wisconsin in that crazy horrible officiated game from a few years ago at Arizona State.

I don’t get this rule. I vote for a change, but really, how do you know what’s good and what’s not over the upright?

I think it's @howler who used to gripe about how short the goalposts at Kinnick are. Not sure if it makes a difference on the Koehn kick, but they really are very short uprights.

these are all different angles so the yardage in the background is misleading, but look at how much shorter the arms are compared to the base for Kinnick compared to others.

I watched that kick several times in slow motion and there is no way that was outside the goalposts. That really sucks that it wasn't reviewable.

 

[CamelTones]

I would have thought there was a standard height that everyone had to use.

Wonder if we can lower the hoop in basketball for Woody.

 

[PipeDaddy]

Don't officials normally stand directly under the goal post? Seems like they were standing behind them quite a ways.

 

[MikeyJoe]

— Kicker Marshall Koehn looked like he might’ve made a 47-yard field goal early in the fourth quarter. The ball sailed high over the right upright. It was ruled wide right and no good. There wasn’t much argument from Iowa’s sideline, because those guys know rule NCAA football instant replay casebook.

“Section 3, Article 1-b of the case book states the following: “Field goal attempts (can be reviewed) if and only if the ball is ruled (b) inside or outside the uprights when it is lower than the top of the uprights. If the ball is higher than the top of the uprights as it crosses the end line, the play may not be reviewed.”

So, the Koehn kick wasn’t reviewable. You might remember Arizona State making one of these against Wisconsin in that crazy horrible officiated game from a few years ago at Arizona State.

I don’t get this rule. I vote for a change, but really, how do you know what’s good and what’s not over the upright?

I think it's @howler who used to gripe about how short the goalposts at Kinnick are. Not sure if it makes a difference on the Koehn kick, but they really are very short uprights.

these are all different angles so the yardage in the background is misleading, but look at how much shorter the arms are compared to the base for Kinnick compared to others.

I watched that kick several times in slow motion and there is no way that was outside the goalposts. That really sucks that it wasn't reviewable.

I put it this way - it was almost impossible to tell where it went over the post, but with how far inside the post it hit the net it would have had to be hooking incredibly viciously to be wide as it passed the posts.

 

[HawkLax6]

 

[wondergrape]

— Kicker Marshall Koehn looked like he might’ve made a 47-yard field goal early in the fourth quarter. The ball sailed high over the right upright. It was ruled wide right and no good. There wasn’t much argument from Iowa’s sideline, because those guys know rule NCAA football instant replay casebook.

“Section 3, Article 1-b of the case book states the following: “Field goal attempts (can be reviewed) if and only if the ball is ruled (b) inside or outside the uprights when it is lower than the top of the uprights. If the ball is higher than the top of the uprights as it crosses the end line, the play may not be reviewed.”

So, the Koehn kick wasn’t reviewable. You might remember Arizona State making one of these against Wisconsin in that crazy horrible officiated game from a few years ago at Arizona State.

I don’t get this rule. I vote for a change, but really, how do you know what’s good and what’s not over the upright?

I think it's @howler who used to gripe about how short the goalposts at Kinnick are. Not sure if it makes a difference on the Koehn kick, but they really are very short uprights.

these are all different angles so the yardage in the background is misleading, but look at how much shorter the arms are compared to the base for Kinnick compared to others.

Kinnick is such a cool looking stadium.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Related to that, anybody have good pictures from this year they're using for desktop backgrounds?

/I'msuresomeonedoes

 

[TallGrass]

There's gotta be one from the phone flashlight trick. That was cool.

 

[hawkchick79]

There's gotta be one from the phone flashlight trick. That was cool.

Scroll down.

 

[Will McCoy]

Is the 4th quarter hit video available? I didn't find it yesterday.

 

[RecreationalGynecologist]

#71 for Minnesota is going to play football for a long time

 

[tjohnstone3]

There's gotta be one from the phone flashlight trick. That was cool.

Scroll down.

 

[Match34]

I thought it was awesome that before the game, immediately after they acknowledged the attacks on Paris, they played the clip of Kinnick saying he'd, "much rather struggle and fight to win the Heisman award than the Croix de Guerre."

"We support you, France. Now, moving on, here's a clip of our hero saying that he'd rather play football than defend France."

 

[rodg12]

Is the 4th quarter hit video available? I didn't find it yesterday.

Here's the pregame one...

 

[howler]

Hey @douglasbader! How 'bout a report from Kinnick last week?!

 

[hawkimike]

 

[howler]

Good memory, Lime. Yes, that's been a crusade of mine ever since I can remember. Iowa's singularly short FG posts have always seemed like they would do more harm than good, and I guess we finally saw that Saturday night.

bump

 

[howler]

I think it's @howler who used to gripe about how short the goalposts at Kinnick are. Not sure if it makes a difference on the Koehn kick, but they really are very short uprights.

these are all different angles so the yardage in the background is misleading, but look at how much shorter the arms are compared to the base for Kinnick compared to others.

yup

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Howla

 

[Orestes]

At least it evened out today.

 

[thrawn]

but seriously why are they so short? I'm surprised there isn't a standard height to begin with, but Iowa seems to have opted for the shortest height allowed.

 

[howler]

but seriously why are they so short? I'm surprised there isn't a standard height to begin with, but Iowa seems to have opted for the shortest height allowed.

There’s no satisfying answer, especially when Nate Kaeding was booming them 22 years ago. I remember seeing the famous Rob Houghtlin video and thinking how doofy they looked even in 1985. Michigan had taller posts that year than we do now. Makes no sense to me since it is a clear liability.

 

[WCFHawkeye]

Field goal posts makers aren't happy about extending posts, say 'It won't be easy'

All NFL goal posts will be five feet taller starting in 2014. (John W. McDonough/SI) During the NFL meetings in Orlando, Fla., the league decided to add five

www.si.com

35-foot NFL goal posts present new manufacturing challenges

Turns out, extending the height by 5 feet isn't all that easy, according to companies.

www.azcentral.com

 

[BluesHawk]

Field goal posts makers aren't happy about extending posts, say 'It won't be easy'

All NFL goal posts will be five feet taller starting in 2014. (John W. McDonough/SI) During the NFL meetings in Orlando, Fla., the league decided to add five

www.si.com

That article didn't actually say why it would be difficult. It's not fucking rocket science.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Use whatever they use for K zone

 

[WCFHawkeye]

That article didn't actually say why it would be difficult. It's not fucking rocket science.

Second article does a better job of explaining "the issues." I still can't comprehend why it would be difficult.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Use whatever they use for K zone

Hawk eye

 

[BluesHawk]

Second article does a better job of explaining "the issues." I still can't comprehend why it would be difficult.

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[BluesHawk]

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[ChipHilton]

#71 for Minnesota is going to play football for a long time

Did he?

 

[Verbal]

Did he?

Appears it was Tyler Moore. He played one more season at Minnesota after this thread, then transferred to Oklahoma State and retired from football almost immediately after arriving.

 

[KitKatApples]

That’s a no then