**Official Western Michigan vs. Iowa Football Thread - 2:30pm - BTN**

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The fact that THAT’s the list after 20 years kinda proves the point.
 

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Iowa does not recruit WRs well. I would still argue that they don't get the most out of what they do have.
 

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I mean, I'm not really arguing- just pointing out that IOWA has had some good receivers over the years.
 

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I mean, I'm not really arguing- just pointing out that IOWA has had some good receivers over the years.
Right, but you're pointing out like 10 over a 25 year period, and only 2-3 of them were truly good.
 

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Jesus fucking Christ....OK. lwade is right- IOWA never gets a good WR

I surrender- lol
 

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Here’s the list of Iowa WRs to record stats in the NFL. (Does not include old timey ends) Also, Kahlil Hill and Riley McCarron combined for two games as returners.

Also also, Charlie Jones has an appearance on special teams and the three catches of Derrick Willies do not appear, even though Jones does in returns.

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Extending it to all non-TE/RBs, Jake Gervase, Karl Klug, and Amani Hooker have a combined three receptions.

Parker Hesse, who played DE at Iowa, has more NFL catches than all KF-era WR recruits combined.
 
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Here’s the list of Iowa WRs to record stats in the NFL. (Does not include old timey ends) Also, Kahlil Hill and Riley McCarron combined for two games as returners.

Also also, Charlie Jones has an appearance on special teams and the three catches of Derrick Willies do not appear, even though Jones does in returns.

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That is so bad as to be hilarious. Holy shit nil could do WORK here.
 

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Extending it to non-TE/RBs, Jake Gervase, Karl Klug, and Amani Hooker have a combined three receptions.

Parker Hesse, who played DE at Iowa, has more NFL catches than all KF-era WR recruits combined.
lol that is amazing
 

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Why, they don't really get used enough to make it worthwhile
Not being very good might have something to do with that. Parker Hesse, who played DE at Iowa has more nfl catches than all KF wr recruits combined.
 

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Brown and McNutt might have been the 2 best and didn’t even make the list.

McNutt was recruited as a QB too though.
While I get your point

Danan Hughes
Cj Jones
Tim Dwight
Clinton Solomon
Ed Hinkle
ISM
Brandon Smith
Prob others

Were pretty decent WR. Prob is they weren't overly utilized. Focus on TE hurts number of targets.
 

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In addition- to be clear, not really arguing- just was listing some decent receivers
 

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Extending it to all non-TE/RBs, Jake Gervase, Karl Klug, and Amani Hooker have a combined three receptions.

Parker Hesse, who played DE at Iowa, has more NFL catches than all KF-era WR recruits combined.
lol thats fuckin hysterical
 

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Here’s the list of Iowa WRs to record stats in the NFL. (Does not include old timey ends) Also, Kahlil Hill and Riley McCarron combined for two games as returners.

Also also, Charlie Jones has an appearance on special teams and the three catches of Derrick Willies do not appear, even though Jones does in returns.

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Well, when you put it that way ...
 

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I think the staff made a conscious decision not to emphasize the WR position because they deny they’d have more success in recruiting TEs that would buy into the program philosophy.
This doesn't make sense. Not just that I disagree with the sentiment, but the words in the order you placed them is incoherent.
 

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I think the staff made a conscious decision not to emphasize the WR position because they deny they’d have more success in recruiting TEs that would buy into the program philosophy.
Most good receiver recruits are black and most good tight end recruits are white. There you have it.
 

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Extending it to all non-TE/RBs, Jake Gervase, Karl Klug, and Amani Hooker have a combined three receptions.

Parker Hesse, who played DE at Iowa, has more NFL catches than all KF-era WR recruits combined.
That’s truly incredible.
 

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You a big ol retardate, soda?
 
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We lost out on receiver after receiver in the 80s, despite having a coach with a passing reputation, an extremely good OC and 7 years worth of All-Big 10 quarterbacks.

Treye Jackson was a huge coup, but he was an Iowa kid. And unfortunately, he couldn't catch. Robert Smith had a 4-star rating, but was a HS running back and never a pure receiver (Kaleb Brown?). Quinn Early was the best of the bunch, but got minor recruiting mention as a 160 pound "sleeper". He didn't really "arrive" until his 4th year. Hughes was a solid get, probably like a Rivals 5.6 3-star today. Keith Chappelle was a great get with teammate bohannon, but I don't think they were fighting blue bloods for him. Moritz and the walk-ons saved the bacon, along with Harmon agreeing to put off playing RB for a couple of years.

Tim Brown was THE miss, along with Fairfield's Milt Jackson two years earlier. National #1 receiver Alvin Miller of St. Louis visited in '83, but joined Jackson and Brown at Notre Dame.
 

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We lost out on receiver after receiver in the 80s, despite having a coach with a passing reputation, an extremely good OC and 7 years worth of All-Big 10 quarterbacks.

Treye Jackson was a huge coup, but he was an Iowa kid. And unfortunately, he couldn't catch. Robert Smith had a 4-star rating, but was a HS running back and never a pure receiver (Kaleb Brown?). Quinn Early was the best of the bunch, but got minor recruiting mention as a 160 pound "sleeper". He didn't really "arrive" until his 4th year. Hughes was a solid get, probably like a Rivals 5.6 3-star today. Keith Chappelle was a great get with teammate bohannon, but I don't think they were fighting blue bloods for him. Moritz and the walk-ons saved the bacon, along with Harmon agreeing to put off playing RB for a couple of years.

Tim Brown was THE miss, along with Fairfield's Milt Jackson two years earlier. National #1 receiver Alvin Miller of St. Louis visited in '83, but joined Jackson and Brown at Notre Dame.
Willie Guy was the highest rated WR they ever got, didn't pan out.
 

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But I would have taken him over the Skillet/Skinner combo
 
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Pretty sure he played QB in HS
He did. Had a slew of TDs and punt returns. But Zabel (or maybe Cotlar) had one of the recruiting gurus on the old WHO Sportsline show who put the brakes on the "can't miss" label. Said he would have to learn a new position and that his speed was good, but certainly not blazing.
IOW, a case of a great high school player who wasn't a lock to be a great college player. There was probably a reason Iowa got him.

The shame of it was that Matt Rodgers was Iowa's quarterback in 1990 and 1991 and Willie never played with him.
 
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