RATT and on the record - Brian Ferentz as OC

Do you believe Brian Ferentz will be successful as Iowa's Offensive Coordinator?


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L. Wade Childress

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Not to pick on @L. Wade Childress (but seriously though fuck @L. Wade Childress) why do people treat this like it's about offensive philosophy and not like it's a concern that Brian just might not actually be that good at this?

How do you watch Iowa get stuffed for no gain on every single audible out of I formation and respond "WeLl AcTuAlLy IoWa RuNs A cOnSeRvAtIvE sTyLe!"

I get that Iowa isn't going to come out running some crazy Oregon style scheme, but unless you think Iowa is trying to have a really shitty run game it's not really about style.
Well probably because the results look pretty similar but how we get there looks vastly different. That tells me it’s an issue with overarching philosophy rather than tactics.
Our 3rd down and 2 point conversion percentage indicate he is not a good play caller. I don’t think it is a “zone blocking sucks” thing.
What about last year?
 

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back to back shitty years of coaching for Ferentz. 3 games left and already out of division race. No excuse with all the NFL talent
 

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Well probably because the results look pretty similar but how we get there looks vastly different. That tells me it’s an issue with overarching philosophy rather than tactics.
Our 3rd down and 2 point conversion percentage indicate he is not a good play caller. I don’t think it is a “zone blocking sucks” thing.
What about last year?
They were bad in 3rd and short and on 2 point conversions. They were ok on 3rd and medium/long.
 

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Is it me, or does our running attack seem extremely easily blown the fuck up, relative to other comparable situations talent-wise? Our D certainly doesn’t seem to stack up running plays the way ours get stacked up in games against decent opponents.

I wonder how our number of rushing attempts yielding 2 or fewer yds compares nationally.
 

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the OL played pretty well Saturday. Wish Goodson would have got more carries. The runs Young gets 9 yards on would be 20 yards or more with Goodson running
 

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Is it me, or does our running attack seem extremely easily blown the fuck up, relative to other comparable situations talent-wise? Our D certainly doesn’t seem to stack up running plays the way ours get stacked up in games against decent opponents.

I wonder how our number of rushing attempts yielding 2 or fewer yds compares nationally.
It's not you. They've been one of the worst teams in the country on third and three or less, and that's been true for several years now, so it's not just the interior line being ass this season. Everyone knows exactly what we're doing and we almost never do anything to make them pay for selling out against us.
 

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Is it me, or does our running attack seem extremely easily blown the fuck up, relative to other comparable situations talent-wise? Our D certainly doesn’t seem to stack up running plays the way ours get stacked up in games against decent opponents.

I wonder how our number of rushing attempts yielding 2 or fewer yds compares nationally.
I personally think it has more to do with Iowa's D having less idea exactly what the fuck the other team is about to do, unlike other teams with Iowa's run game.
 

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Is it me, or does our running attack seem extremely easily blown the fuck up, relative to other comparable situations talent-wise? Our D certainly doesn’t seem to stack up running plays the way ours get stacked up in games against decent opponents.

I wonder how our number of rushing attempts yielding 2 or fewer yds compares nationally.
Maybe it is just longing eyes and personal bias, but I they want to run the play clock and possess the ball they need to run more shifts and motions. They can still run the same shit, just slow the defense down a little (like the Rams, Packers, 49ers etc).
 

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For as much time as they have spent around Belichek, the Ferentz’s have managed to pick up absolutely none of his aggressiveness.
 

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Vint brought this up on Twitter but it's infuriating that they watched NDSU run all over us, were impressed enough by it to go out and hire their coordinator as OLine coach, and then instead of incorporating anything from that offense (which is awesome and could absolutely work with the types of kids we can recruit) they just told him to coach the exact same thing we've been doing for 20 years.
 

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Vint brought this up on Twitter but it's infuriating that they watched NDSU run all over us, were impressed enough by it to go out and hire their coordinator as OLine coach, and then instead of incorporating anything from that offense (which is awesome and could absolutely work with the types of kids we can recruit) they just told him to coach the exact same thing we've been doing for 20 years.
They have incorporated some of that stuff. Not enough, but they do some of it.
 
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They do a lot of Gap Power concepts and very effective at it. They have better fullbacks than we do and that’s a glaring issue with our run game.
 

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Vint brought this up on Twitter but it's infuriating that they watched NDSU run all over us, were impressed enough by it to go out and hire their coordinator as OLine coach, and then instead of incorporating anything from that offense (which is awesome and could absolutely work with the types of kids we can recruit) they just told him to coach the exact same thing we've been doing for 20 years.
They have incorporated some of that stuff. Not enough, but they do some of it.
Really doesn't make sense that they don't run out of the shotgun. To run out of the shotgun you basically have to be a zone scheme, it is set up perfect for them in their principles.

They're just too committed to the fullback I formation.
 

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Vint brought this up on Twitter but it's infuriating that they watched NDSU run all over us, were impressed enough by it to go out and hire their coordinator as OLine coach, and then instead of incorporating anything from that offense (which is awesome and could absolutely work with the types of kids we can recruit) they just told him to coach the exact same thing we've been doing for 20 years.
They have incorporated some of that stuff. Not enough, but they do some of it.
Really doesn't make sense that they don't run out of the shotgun. To run out of the shotgun you basically have to be a zone scheme
This isn't true! Lots of teams run power and trap plays out of shotgun now. That's one of the things I would have loved to take from NDSU.

Iowa has run a lot out of shotgun this year, it mostly doesn't work because you lose most of the advantage of running out of shotgun when the QB can't run.
 

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They have incorporated some of that stuff. Not enough, but they do some of it.
Really doesn't make sense that they don't run out of the shotgun. To run out of the shotgun you basically have to be a zone scheme
This isn't true! Lots of teams run power and trap plays out of shotgun now. That's one of the things I would have loved to take from NDSU.

Iowa has run a lot out of shotgun this year, it mostly doesn't work because you lose most of the advantage of running out of shotgun when the QB can't run.
Of course teams run power and trap out of it. But almost all of them also have zone concepts mixed in. The broader point was if they refuse to get divorced from the zone scheme they can still do it out of shotgun without inviting 80% of the defensive players into the box.

Bigger picture wise they need to accept that they’re not Wisconsin. Wisconsin is light years ahead of them and they’re not going to catch them trying to play like them.
 

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They're not really trying to be Wisconsin now unless you think all teams that use a fullback are the same
 

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I’m not saying LITERALLY Wisconsin, I’m saying they think they can line up and run against 9 guys in the box.

Zone or gap doesn’t matter. There are ways to get it done in either system. Iowa has shown for about 10 years now that they can’t for a multitude of reasons. One being quality of running back.
 
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