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I think Metuo is very wrong about neither Blythe nor Walsh seeing the field next year.

Also, Sleeper will not be starting.
 

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I think Metuo is very wrong about neither Blythe nor Walsh seeing the field next year.

Also, Sleeper will not be starting.
So you see them passing up not only Scherff (who had every bit as much recruiting accolades as either of them, plus actual game experience and a large size advantage over either), but a senior in Tobin who will have probably 12-13 starts under his belt, not to mention JRs like Donnal and Bofelli.

Okay then.

If either of them were that good, how come they are not seeing time in the rotation now? Kirk has played true frosh OL in the past if they are really good, which those guys would have to be in order to pass up all of the aforementioned players.

So yeah, you're wrong. And I'm right.

And I never said Sleeper would start, but he will see significant PT. If you think Kirk and Norm can go an entire year leaving a SR walk-on from small town Iowa, and one with extensive playing experience, on the bench, then you are twice as dumb as I think you are.
 
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If Scherff was good, he'd be playing over Tobin now. And I was rooting for him early in the year.

We rarely play 3 safeties, so when Sleeper gets beat out, he won't be seeing significant PT.
 

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If Scherff was good, he'd be playing over Tobin now. And I was rooting for him early in the year.

We rarely play 3 safeties, so when Sleeper gets beat out, he won't be seeing significant PT.
What makes you think Law will get the nod over Sleeper? Very unlikely.

And the Tobin deal is the same thing, seniority over younger talent.

And if Blythe or Walsh were better than Scherff they would be playing RIGHT NOW.
 

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:lol: Nice try not Ess.

If this was a serious post it is time to take your meds Sybil. :D
 

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If Scherff was good, he'd be playing over Tobin now. And I was rooting for him early in the year.

We rarely play 3 safeties, so when Sleeper gets beat out, he won't be seeing significant PT.
What makes you think Law will get the nod over Sleeper? Very unlikely.

And the Tobin deal is the same thing, seniority over younger talent.

And if Blythe or Walsh were better than Scherff they would be playing RIGHT NOW.
No, they wouldn't. Ferentz does not play true freshman lineman.

You really are dumb as shit.
 

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Oh Lime!!!!!! Ever gonna come back to the thread??
 

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If Scherff was good, he'd be playing over Tobin now. And I was rooting for him early in the year.

We rarely play 3 safeties, so when Sleeper gets beat out, he won't be seeing significant PT.
What makes you think Law will get the nod over Sleeper? Very unlikely.

And the Tobin deal is the same thing, seniority over younger talent.

And if Blythe or Walsh were better than Scherff they would be playing RIGHT NOW.
No, they wouldn't. Ferentz does not play true freshman lineman.

You really are dumb as shit.
Mike Jones
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And once again, you have become my bitch.
 
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Whoops, 3 in 13 fucking years. You got me there kid.
 

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Whoops, 3 in 13 fucking years. You got me there kid.
The bottom line is that if a player is good enough, they will play, especially in situations like this year where the depth is weak (see Jones in 2003 and Bulaga in 07).

Is there any other aspect of Iowa football that you would like me to explain to you, or can I make you look like a fool in any other way today?

I'm here to help increase your knowledge.
 

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Whoops, 3 in 13 fucking years. You got me there kid.
The bottom line is that if a player is good enough, they will play, especially in situations like this year where the depth is weak (see Jones in 2003 and Bulaga in 07).

Is there any other aspect of Iowa football that you would like me to explain to you, or can I make you look like a fool in any other way today?

I'm here to help increase your knowledge.
Don't worry, Metuo, everyone still thinks you are a worthless piece of shit and you still won't last long here.
 

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Whoops, 3 in 13 fucking years. You got me there kid.
The bottom line is that if a player is good enough, they will play, especially in situations like this year where the depth is weak (see Jones in 2003 and Bulaga in 07).

Is there any other aspect of Iowa football that you would like me to explain to you, or can I make you look like a fool in any other way today?

I'm here to help increase your knowledge.
Don't worry, Metuo, everyone still thinks you are a worthless piece of shit and you still won't last long here.

That's funny, because that's exactly the impression I get of you judging from virtually every response I've seen to one of your posts.

I'm starting to realize that you're nothing more than the foul-mouthed comic relief around here, and I don't like picking on Special Ed kids.
 

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I think Metuo is very wrong about neither Blythe nor Walsh seeing the field next year.

Also, Sleeper will not be starting.
So you see them passing up not only Scherff (who had every bit as much recruiting accolades as either of them, plus actual game experience and a large size advantage over either), but a senior in Tobin who will have probably 12-13 starts under his belt, not to mention JRs like Donnal and Bofelli.

Okay then.

If either of them were that good, how come they are not seeing time in the rotation now? Kirk has played true frosh OL in the past if they are really good, which those guys would have to be in order to pass up all of the aforementioned players.

So yeah, you're wrong. And I'm right.

And I never said Sleeper would start, but he will see significant PT. If you think Kirk and Norm can go an entire year leaving a SR walk-on from small town Iowa, and one with extensive playing experience, on the bench, then you are twice as dumb as I think you are.
On what planet was Scherff even in the same realm of highly rated as Blythe and Walsh?

Not according to Rivals or anyone else.
 

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I think Metuo is very wrong about neither Blythe nor Walsh seeing the field next year.

Also, Sleeper will not be starting.
So you see them passing up not only Scherff (who had every bit as much recruiting accolades as either of them, plus actual game experience and a large size advantage over either), but a senior in Tobin who will have probably 12-13 starts under his belt, not to mention JRs like Donnal and Bofelli.

Okay then.

If either of them were that good, how come they are not seeing time in the rotation now? Kirk has played true frosh OL in the past if they are really good, which those guys would have to be in order to pass up all of the aforementioned players.

So yeah, you're wrong. And I'm right.

And I never said Sleeper would start, but he will see significant PT. If you think Kirk and Norm can go an entire year leaving a SR walk-on from small town Iowa, and one with extensive playing experience, on the bench, then you are twice as dumb as I think you are.
On what planet was Scherff even in the same realm of highly rated as Blythe and Walsh?

Not according to Rivals or anyone else.
Scherff and Blythe were both 3*s on scout with no other major offers besides Iowa State.

Pretty sure that's the planet earth.
 

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Scherff was a 4* on Rivals with offers from K-State, Kansas, Missouri, and Nebrantska.

Blythe was a 4* with offers from Kansas and K-State.
 

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So you see them passing up not only Scherff (who had every bit as much recruiting accolades as either of them, plus actual game experience and a large size advantage over either), but a senior in Tobin who will have probably 12-13 starts under his belt, not to mention JRs like Donnal and Bofelli.

Okay then.

If either of them were that good, how come they are not seeing time in the rotation now? Kirk has played true frosh OL in the past if they are really good, which those guys would have to be in order to pass up all of the aforementioned players.

So yeah, you're wrong. And I'm right.

And I never said Sleeper would start, but he will see significant PT. If you think Kirk and Norm can go an entire year leaving a SR walk-on from small town Iowa, and one with extensive playing experience, on the bench, then you are twice as dumb as I think you are.
On what planet was Scherff even in the same realm of highly rated as Blythe and Walsh?

Not according to Rivals or anyone else.
Scherff and Blythe were both 3*s on scout with no other major offers besides Iowa State.

Pretty sure that's the planet earth.
Blythe was a 4* and the 148th rated player in the Country. He had offers from Kansas State, Stanford, Wisconsin and many others.

Parade also named him a First Team All-American.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/iowa/football/recruiting/player-Austin-Blythe-98396;_ylt=ArgcnBFm88mnHi8cBgIMfa97sJB4
 

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On what planet was Scherff even in the same realm of highly rated as Blythe and Walsh?

Not according to Rivals or anyone else.
Scherff and Blythe were both 3*s on scout with no other major offers besides Iowa State.

Pretty sure that's the planet earth.
Blythe was a 4* and the 148th rated player in the Country. He had offers from Kansas State, Stanford, Wisconsin and many others.

Parade also named him a First Team All-American.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/iowa/football/recruiting/player-Austin-Blythe-98396;_ylt=ArgcnBFm88mnHi8cBgIMfa97sJB4
He did not have many others, he had 6, the same number as Scherff. Both were offered by Iowa, Iowa State, K-State, and Kansas.

Stanford and Wiscosin or Missouri and Nebrantska?

I would say those are equivalent. Stanford is really good right now but that is a historical anomaly and academics have a lot more to do with that than just about any other school.
 
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Scherff was a 4* on Rivals with offers from K-State, Kansas, Missouri, and Nebrantska.

Blythe was a 4* with offers from Kansas and K-State.
This isn't HROT, Metuo, you just can't make shit up and think people are going to believe you.

Scherff was a 3* on Rivals and ranked #4 in the State of Iowa and not in the Top 250 nationally.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/iowa/football/recruiting/player-Brandon-Scherff-92428

I like how you also bullshitted and left off Blythe's offers from Stanford and Wisconsin as well as his national ranking of #148.

Nice try though.
 

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Scherff was a 4* on Rivals with offers from K-State, Kansas, Missouri, and Nebrantska.

Blythe was a 4* with offers from Kansas and K-State.
This isn't HROT, Metuo, you just can't make shit up and think people are going to believe you.

Scherff was a 3* on Rivals and ranked #4 in the State of Iowa and not in the Top 250 nationally.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/iowa/football/recruiting/player-Brandon-Scherff-92428

I like how you also bullshitted and left off Blythe's offers from Stanford and Wisconsin as well as his national ranking of #148.

Nice try though.
I forgot to scroll down to the bottom of the page. They had schools listed in between that had not offered. I assumed all the schools that had offered were listed sequentially.

Either way, the offer lists are virtually identical. Scout had them both as a 3, Rivals gave Blythe an extra snowflake. Big fucking deal, and if you think that means jack shit as to their abilities as a player, then you are twice as stupid as I think you are already.
 

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Scherff was a 4* on Rivals with offers from K-State, Kansas, Missouri, and Nebrantska.

Blythe was a 4* with offers from Kansas and K-State.
This isn't HROT, Metuo, you just can't make shit up and think people are going to believe you.

Scherff was a 3* on Rivals and ranked #4 in the State of Iowa and not in the Top 250 nationally.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/iowa/football/recruiting/player-Brandon-Scherff-92428

I like how you also bullshitted and left off Blythe's offers from Stanford and Wisconsin as well as his national ranking of #148.

Nice try though.
I forgot to scroll down to the bottom of the page. They had schools listed in between that had not offered. I assumed all the schools that had offered were listed sequentially.

Either way, the offer lists are virtually identical. Scout had them both as a 3, Rivals gave Blythe an extra snowflake. Big fucking deal, and if you think that means jack shit as to their abilities as a player, then you are twice as stupid as I think you are already.
Translation:

Metuo said something stupid, got called on it, lied about it, omitted things, lied again, tried to play a "yeah, but" defense and then tried to justify his lies one last time.

This isn't HROT, you can't get away with this shit here. You are way, way out of your league.
 

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ESPN has them both listed as 3*s as well.

It looks like Rivals is the outlier here.

Kind of sucks for your argument.

Edit: what the fuck is with your unhealthy obsession with HROT. I have never seen so much single-minded Penus envy in my life. Did someone over there fuck your mother, steal your girlfriend, and rape your daughter?

Get over yourself, loser.
 
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...Rivals gave Blythe an extra snowflake. Big fucking deal, and if you think that means jack shit as to their abilities as a player, then you are twice as stupid as I think you are already.
No kidding. Who was the dumbass who brought up recruiting rankings?

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Scherff (who had every bit as much recruiting accolades as either of them
Oh.
 

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...Rivals gave Blythe an extra snowflake. Big fucking deal, and if you think that means jack shit as to their abilities as a player, then you are twice as stupid as I think you are already.
No kidding. Who was the dumbass who brought up recruiting rankings?

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Scherff (who had every bit as much recruiting accolades as either of them
Oh.
On the 3 main services, Scherff had a rating of 3.0, while Blythe comes in at 3.33. They had 6 offers, 4 to the exact same schools, and Blythe had Wisconsin while Scherff had Nebrantska, and Blythe had Stanford while Scherff had Missouri.

Yep, there is an outrageous difference there.
 

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ESPN has them both listed as 3*s as well.

It looks like Rivals is the outlier here.

Kind of sucks for your argument.

Edit: what the fuck is with your unhealthy obsession with HROT. I have never seen so much single-minded Penus envy in my life. Did someone over there fuck your mother, steal your girlfriend, and rape your daughter?

Get over yourself, loser.
ESPN has number ratings that are more specific than stars. Blythe was a 79 a
79 and Sherff was a 76.
 

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ESPN has them both listed as 3*s as well.

It looks like Rivals is the outlier here.

Kind of sucks for your argument.

Edit: what the fuck is with your unhealthy obsession with HROT. I have never seen so much single-minded Penus envy in my life. Did someone over there fuck your mother, steal your girlfriend, and rape your daughter?

Get over yourself, loser.
ESPN has number ratings that are more specific than stars. Blythe was a 79 a
79 and Sherff was a 76.
I'm not a math major, but that seems pretty goddamned fucking close to me.
 

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As Loogey always says, sometimes the hardest thing to learn in Internet arguing is that you've got to know which threads to back away from. Sometimes you've just gotta say "Oh, I didn't realize Blythe and Walsh were rated more highly. My bad."
 
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I'm starting to realize that you're nothing more than the foul-mouthed comic relief around here, and I don't like picking on Special Ed kids.
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Edit: what the fuck is with your unhealthy obsession with HROT. I have never seen so much single-minded Penus envy in my life. Did someone over there fuck your mother, steal your girlfriend, and rape your daughter?
Either way, the offer lists are virtually identical. Scout had them both as a 3, Rivals gave Blythe an extra snowflake. Big fucking deal, and if you think that means jack shit as to their abilities as a player, then you are twice as stupid as I think you are already.
And I never said Sleeper would start, but he will see significant PT. If you think Kirk and Norm can go an entire year leaving a SR walk-on from small town Iowa, and one with extensive playing experience, on the bench, then you are twice as dumb as I think you are.
I'm not a math major, but that seems pretty goddamned fucking close to me.
 

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As Loogey always says, sometimes the hardest thing to learn in Internet arguing is that you've got to know which threads to back away from. Sometimes you've just gotta say "Oh, I didn't realize Blythe and Walsh were 4* players. My bad."
I knew both were 4*. I though Scherff was a 4* on Rivals. I also thought Blythe was a consensus 4* on all the services, which he clearly was not. He is much closer to Scherff on average rating than I even thought initially. The offer lists were also shockingly similar.

This is the point where you might want to heed some of your own advice and slink away.
 
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keep this up, metuo, and you're TWICE as dumb as i think you are already!!
 

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ESPN has them both listed as 3*s as well.

It looks like Rivals is the outlier here.

Kind of sucks for your argument.

Edit: what the fuck is with your unhealthy obsession with HROT. I have never seen so much single-minded Penus envy in my life. Did someone over there fuck your mother, steal your girlfriend, and rape your daughter?

Get over yourself, loser.
ESPN has number ratings that are more specific than stars. Blythe was a 79 a
79 and Sherff was a 76.
I'm not a math major, but that seems pretty goddamned fucking close to me.
No, it isn't close. For example, Blythe was ranked #19 at his position and Sherff was #72. Blythe was much higher rated by both Rivals and ESPN.
 

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ESPN has number ratings that are more specific than stars. Blythe was a 79 a
79 and Sherff was a 76.
I'm not a math major, but that seems pretty goddamned fucking close to me.
No, it isn't close. For example, Blythe was ranked #19 at his position and Sherff was #72. Blythe was much higher rated by both Rivals and ESPN.
79 is close to 76 and their offers are virtually identical.

You guys sound like Iowa State fans after they get some hotshot JUCO ranked in the top 10 at his position with offers from Army, Tulane and N Texas.
 
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Metuo got himself PWNED here, boyz.
 

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This is one of the stupidest arguments I've ever had on HaLo, and keep in mind that I have argued with Mo T about a lot of things.

Rankings from the top 3 services:

Rivals | Scherff | Blythe | Walsh
Stars | 3* | 4* | 4*
Position Rank | 44 | 7 | 10
National Rank | NR | 148 | 179

Scout | Scherff | Blythe | Walsh
Stars | 3* | 3* | 4*
Position Rank | 55 | 23 | 2
National Rank | NR | NR | 75

ESPN | Scherff | Blythe | Walsh
Stars | 3* | 3* | 4*
Position Rank | 72 | 19 | 13

Scherff has similar offers to Blythe, not even remotely near Walsh. It's honestly beginning to become embarrassing that you continue to try and argue this.
 

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Everyone forget your arguing points for a minute and ask yourself this: ''Why?''
 

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Everyone forget your arguing points for a minute and ask yourself this: ''Why?''
Because Blythe will obviously be an All-American due to his 4 star ranking, even though the last time we had a 4* OL that lived up to his billing, he actually played as a true frosh on a bad line.
 

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Everyone forget your arguing points for a minute and ask yourself this: ''Why?''
Because Blythe will obviously be an All-American due to his 4 star ranking, even though the last time we had a 4* OL that lived up to his billing, he actually played as a true frosh on a bad line.
Right. I can't believe that some idiot brought recruiting rankings into this argument.
 

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Everyone forget your arguing points for a minute and ask yourself this: ''Why?''
Because Blythe will obviously be an All-American due to his 4 star ranking, even though the last time we had a 4* OL that lived up to his billing, he actually played as a true frosh on a bad line.
Right. I can't believe that some idiot brought recruiting rankings into this argument.
I wasn't the one raving about redshirting freshmen that are behind a lot of other guys. The only reason dougie and the rest are creaming their pants over them is due to their high rankings. Scherff was no slouch in this department himself. That was my point, and the facts bear this out. And we haven't even touched on Donnal, who can go toe-to-toe even with the almighty Jordan Walsh.

Nice try at deflection, though.
 
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I'm not sure you understand what deflection means.
 

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I'm not sure you understand what deflection means.
The recruiting rankings were the underlying reason for the entire discussion, whether it was explicitly stated by me, someone else, or just ignored.

If they were 2* nobodies or farm boy walk-ons, nobody would care and their would no expectations that they would tell Tobin to "sit the fuck down" next season, which is still a fairly ridiculous assertion.
 
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Metuo is on the ropes and swinging wildly, the only problem is he doesn't realize he's been knocked out and the fight is over.
 

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Because Blythe will obviously be an All-American due to his 4 star ranking, even though the last time we had a 4* OL that lived up to his billing, he actually played as a true frosh on a bad line.
Right. I can't believe that some idiot brought recruiting rankings into this argument.
I wasn't the one raving about redshirting freshmen that are behind a lot of other guys. The only reason dougie and the rest are creaming their pants over them is due to their high rankings. Scherff was no slouch in this department himself. That was my point, and the facts bear this out. And we haven't even touched on Donnal, who can go toe-to-toe even with the almighty Jordan Walsh.

Nice try at deflection, though.
Donnal doesn't even play the same position.
 
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