**2021 Iowa Basketball Offseason Thread**

[demmert4]

This could be true, but sure feels a lot like the Tyler Cook to Missouri stuff from a few years back.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Lol CJ leaving makes zero sense. Has to be total BS.

 

[douglasbader]

This could be true, but sure feels a lot like the Tyler Cook to Missouri stuff from a few years back.

Right, and seems to be more wishful thinking.

I love CJ and don't want to lose him, but at the same time he was a shell of himself for a good portion of 2 straight seasons and if I remember correctly he had issues his redshirt year as well.

It took him from a sharp shooting, solid defending and fearless player to a pump faking hesitating low confidence player that couldn't stay in front of anyone.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

I know and I still don’t buy it and we’ve been there with Cook to Mizzou. It’s somewhat weird that this has been in Kentucky circles for a while now. Would assume it’s been coming from somewhere on his side.

 

[douglasbader]

I also lol thinking that Calipari is sitting there watching Oregon vs. Iowa and saying to himself "gotta get that CJ Fredrick kid!!"

 

[Saul Berkley]

Honestly, it frees up another spot to add some athletes if Fran can manage. Who cares

Umm, he would be by far our best returning shooter.

Unless you want Connor and Joe T jacking up threes.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I know and I still don’t buy it and we’ve been there with Cook to Mizzou. It’s somewhat weird that this has been in Kentucky circles for a while now. Would assume it’s been coming from somewhere on his side.

it started with a completely speculative blog article about potential current NCAA players who could help Kentucky.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Umm, he would be by far our best returning shooter.

Unless you want Connor and Joe T jacking up threes.

if he’s healthy. He’s been hurt 3 straight years.

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

I also lol thinking that Calipari is sitting there watching Oregon vs. Iowa and saying to himself "gotta get that CJ Fredrick kid!!"

They couldn’t shoot for shit this year, so maybe he thinks he can hide his weaknesses and just stretch the floor.

 

[CamelTones]

He needs to go see 5 foot specialist. I’m guessing he’ll pay a little more attention to his diet this summer as well.

 

[26.2]

Ha. Nope.

 

[Alan Lomax]

 

[Shawneemicks]

I hate that there’s zero chance Fran does anything like this.

 

[CleteyColgate]

Ha. Nope.

Matt is pulling shit out of his ass

 

[MikeyJoe]

That's really not that meaningful. There have been 7 times in Fran's 11 years where Iowa's defensive efficiency changed by that much for better or worse year over year. Creighton was in the 40s/50s a few years ago.

 

[Pedro]

He needs to go see 5 foot specialist. I’m guessing he’ll pay a little more attention to his diet this summer as well.

What's the doctor's height have to do with it?

 

[HiawathaHawk]

That's really not that meaningful. There have been 7 times in Fran's 11 years where Iowa's defensive efficiency changed by that much for better or worse year over year. Creighton was in the 40s/50s a few years ago.

Yeah that’s a terrible example. Here’s the timeline:
2017- 46
2018- 58
Lusk is hired
2019- 83
2020- 78
2021- 32

 

[Alan Lomax]

Yeah that’s a terrible example. Here’s the timeline:
2017- 46
2018- 58
Lusk is hired
2019- 83
2020- 78
2021- 32

I can dig it’s a bad example, and out of curiosity what are Iowa’s rankings over Fran’s tenure?

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Bad

 

[Alan Lomax]

Bad

Lol...indeed, I thought you had a quick and easy way to pull them.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Chronologically 2011-2021: 56, 205, 24, 77, 34, 30, 123, 242, 111, 97, 75.

 

[MikeyJoe]

I can dig it’s a bad example, and out of curiosity what are Iowa’s rankings over Fran’s tenure?

2011 - 56
2012 - 205
2013 - 24 (Woodbury arrives)
2014 - 77
2015 - 34
2016 - 30 (Woodbury graduates)
2017 - 123
2018 - 242 (Top lineup is bohannon, Moss, Baer, Cook, Garza)
2019 - 111
2020 - 97
2021 - 75

 

[Fletch]

Sounds like we need a 7 foot center with short arms.

 

[douglasbader]

2011 - 56
2012 - 205
2013 - 24 (Woodbury arrives)
2014 - 77
2015 - 34
2016 - 30 (Woodbury graduates)
2017 - 123 (bohannon arrives)
2018 - 242
2019 - 111
2020 - 97
2021 - 75 (bohannon graduates)

Wanted to add more here....

 

[MikeyJoe]

That 2018 lineup was particularly bad. Cook and Baer were good shot blockers but complete matadors in the lane. bohannon was bohannon. You had a young Garza who was an even worse defender. Woof.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Ina 247 article, Mulvey’s AAU coach was raving about him as a monster defensive presence. Says he’s the anchor, rim protector, communicates, gets everyone in their spots and cleans up mistakes. Then he made some lofty comparisons that you’d take with a a grain of salt but he has at least run a high level program. Would be awesome if he was a little more athletic Woodbury.

 

[Saul Berkley]

2011 - 56
2012 - 205
2013 - 24 (Woodbury arrives)
2014 - 77
2015 - 34
2016 - 30 (Woodbury graduates)
2017 - 123
2018 - 242 (Top lineup is bohannon, Moss, Baer, Cook, Garza)
2019 - 111
2020 - 97
2021 - 75

Yea, that 2018 defense was horrible. I remember getting thrashed in that high school gym in the non conference tournament against a bunch of low mid-major teams.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

It certainly seems less likely a kid who was willing to initially walk on to play for Fran would transfer. But who knows anymore. I know he's tight with Wieskamp

 

[WestMifflin]

Yea, that 2018 defense was horrible. I remember getting thrashed in that high school gym in the non conference tournament against a bunch of low mid-major teams.

Holy shit I forgot about that. The Cayman Islands Classic on FloTv. Games against Louisiana (L), South Dakota State (L), and UAB (W). Woof.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

OMG the NCAA tournament dropped us 15 spots in defense LOL

 

[eclone]

Holy shit I forgot about that. The Cayman Islands Classic on FloTv. Games against Louisiana (L), South Dakota State (L), and UAB (W). Woof.

Sounds like an Iowa State football schedule.

 

[KitKatApples]

Sounds like an Iowa State football schedule.

This is where I will say I bet the water in Ames is a lot better

 

[Will McCoy]

Ina 247 article, Mulvey’s AAU coach was raving about him as a monster defensive presence. Says he’s the anchor, rim protector, communicates, gets everyone in their spots and cleans up mistakes. Then he made some lofty comparisons that you’d take with a a grain of salt but he has at least run a high level program. Would be awesome if he was a little more athletic Woodbury.

Woodbury’s defensive fundamentals and communication with Gabes athleticism and Garza’s offensive. Add in Wilts sexual exploits and maybe we can make the sweet 16.

 

[BBK]

He needs to go see 5 foot specialist. I’m guessing he’ll pay a little more attention to his diet this summer as well.

What's seeing a dwarf going to do for him?

 

[CleteyColgate]

What's seeing a dwarf going to do for him?

Practice dunking over people

 

[L. Wade Childress]

So Miller Kopp is actually transferring. Assuming he read this thread.

 

[CleteyColgate]

I also lol thinking that Calipari is sitting there watching Oregon vs. Iowa and saying to himself "gotta get that CJ Fredrick kid!!"

Who finished the game injured

 

[Hawk4Life94]

J Bo has found his calling.

 

[douglasbader]

I think bohannon might be shocked to find out how many people don't actually like him or give a shit about him now.

 

[Kamala]

I think bohannon might be shocked to find out how many people don't actually like him or give a shit about him now.

Yes

Now that he is not an Iowa Basketball player anymore, I hope to never see him or hear from him again.

 

[Hawkstrat]

He has said he's done, right?

 

[Dr. Zaius]

J Bo has found his calling.

Have fun going pro in something other than sports, Jordan

 

[HiawathaHawk]

He has said he's done, right?

Kind of but then their podcast account tweeted this. Can’t imagine he’d come back again and honestly Fran might tell him it’s time.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

He can grad transfer somewhere if he wants

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Also saw that Toussaint RT’d this. I’m still going to hold out hope that he can figure it out enough to just be a little above average on offense.

 

[Lee Beevers]

Also saw that Toussaint RT’d this. I’m still going to hold out hope that he can figure it out enough to just be a little above average on offense.

Joe seems like a really great kid. His Instagram stuff is always positive and I look forward to seeing what he can give Iowa for a few more years.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Joe seems like a really great kid. His Instagram stuff is always positive and I look forward to seeing what he can give Iowa for a few more years.

completely. I hope he stays.

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

He would be pretty good if he could shoot a decent 3 pt percentage when people play under screens or when he is standing still.

 

[CamelTones]

I think bohannon might be shocked to find out how many people don't actually like him or give a shit about him now.

I think this all hit him as he was sitting on the bench in the second half.

 

[hawkeyealum]

He’s going to grad transfer somewhere because he realizes it’s the only way he’s staying relevant