**2021 Iowa Basketball Offseason Thread**

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Agreed. That would be pretty easy to prove tampering.
It easily could be true. Burners would be used. They won't trace Fredrick's incoming calls, but even if they did it would be a non-recognized number. There would be no proof.

Texts could be another story, but I don't see any way Fredrick's phone is searched and anyone with a brain wouldn't use texts for this.
 

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It easily could be true. Burners would be used. They won't trace Fredrick's incoming calls, but even if they did it would be a non-recognized number. There would be no proof.

Texts could be another story, but I don't see any way Fredrick's phone is searched and anyone with a brain wouldn't use texts for this.
If we've learned anything about Joe, it's that he certainly, maybe, possibly has a functioning brain.
 

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The NCAA can't exactly search his phone which is why half of their rules are pretty unenforceable.
 

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It easily could be true. Burners would be used. They won't trace Fredrick's incoming calls, but even if they did it would be a non-recognized number. There would be no proof.

Texts could be another story, but I don't see any way Fredrick's phone is searched and anyone with a brain wouldn't use texts for this.
Burners can be traced
 

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Nobody is going to catch Cal cheating, because nobody is chasing him. They don't care, he doesn't care.
I'm not saying I want Iowa to go full bag man delivering cash, but it is a little annoying to follow a program that seems so self-righteous about following a bunch of stupid rules no one else seems to care about.
 

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I'm not saying I want Iowa to go full bag man delivering cash, but it is a little annoying to follow a program that seems so self-righteous about following a bunch of stupid rules no one else seems to care about.
It's legitimately the dumbest thing about the Iowa athletic department. The volleyball coach paid for a months rent and they fired him before the check cleared.
 

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I'm not saying I want Iowa to go full bag man delivering cash, but it is a little annoying to follow a program that seems so self-righteous about following a bunch of stupid rules no one else seems to care about.
They got a fucking violation for having recruits meet Ashton Kutcher in a box at a football game.
 

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He averaged 2.8 3-point attempts per game, and 5.6 total shots per game. There is no good reason those numbers weren't much higher except that he was a giant pussy and chose not to take more. Guaranteed the coaches weren't telling him to shoot less.

Connor McCaffery and Jack Nunge both averaged 2.1 3-point attempts per game, and Luka Garza 3.2. Fredrick should have been attempting 3 per half.
Maybe he was watching his FG and 3P%
 

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Is Joe Fredrick a UK booster as defined by the NCAA? If so even him influencing CJ would be tampering.
 

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I'm beginning to suspect that Iowa's ho-hum recruiting isn't the result of geographic challenges but because they insist on doing things the 'right way.' Probably true with FB as well, only to a lesser extent.
 

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Is Joe Fredrick a UK booster as defined by the NCAA? If so even him influencing CJ would be tampering.
I'm sure he's a UK booster by a couple of the definitions. But I'm also pretty sure he's excluded as a family member from the no contact rules.
 

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As you close in on 104k homeless guys blown. Get this guy a new punch card!!
I am holding at a solid zero, unlike you, a legendary fellator of the Austin homeless. Prolly have a little dougie statue under an overpass.
 

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I'm beginning to suspect that Iowa's ho-hum recruiting isn't the result of geographic challenges but because they insist on doing things the 'right way.' Probably true with FB as well, only to a lesser extent.
I think, and I could be very wrong, that college hoops is much dirtier than football. Not that it doesn't happen in football, but the AAU circuit and shoe companies make it a very shady deal in hoops obviously.
 

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My fucking driveway.

Yes, Fran is going to be confused that the every recruit top-25 recruit in the country is calling him, asking about Iowa. He can sit there and wonder.
I love it. Go a step further and get those recruits to go through Eimers at Senior first.
 

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This may have already been talked about, but did CJ get a scholarship his first year while Fran had Connor walk on? Was thinking they were 2 over and then Christian Williams left, which opened a spot that then went to CJ. Could be misremembering that though
 

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This may have already been talked about, but did CJ get a scholarship his first year while Fran had Connor walk on? Was thinking they were 2 over and then Christian Williams left, which opened a spot that then went to CJ. Could be misremembering that though
Yes he was always on scholarship at Iowa. Committed as a walkon and got Williams scholarship while still in high school.
 

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I'm beginning to suspect that Iowa's ho-hum recruiting isn't the result of geographic challenges but because they insist on doing things the 'right way.' Probably true with FB as well, only to a lesser extent.
When you haven’t won the conference in over 40 years or gotten past the second round in over 20 years you don’t cheat to tarnish that legacy
 

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Fuck these people. He’s going to get recruited over at Kentucky and regret ruining this relationship and his college career. He’ll be back home coaching as an assistant to his high school team within a few years of graduating and no one will ever give a fuck about him again.
 

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There are two middle aged men driving through downtown Iowa City with Kentucky shit all over their SUV. Vanity plates, magnets, and dual window flags flying.

Fucking weirdos.
Welcome to BBN. No one does crazy half as well as them.
 
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The NCAA can't exactly search his phone which is why half of their rules are pretty unenforceable.
This is right.

NCAA has no subpoena power so prefacing a request for phone records with the word “please” is about the best they can do.
 

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This is right.

NCAA has no subpoena power so prefacing a request for phone records with the word “please” is about the best they can do.
Is he not a public employee? Wouldn’t his written comms like texts and emails be easily compelled?

I don’t know, I’m asking. Also, none of it matters. No one gives a shit that he obviously tampered to get a guy from Iowa.
 

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Is he not a public employee? Wouldn’t his written comms like texts and emails be easily compelled?

I don’t know, I’m asking. Also, none of it matters. No one gives a shit that he obviously tampered to get a guy from Iowa.
My comment was about CJs phone. Regardless, they’re not going to look through Cals phone because of CJ Fredrick.
 

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Lol, now he and his dumbfuck uncle have to make it look like he is getting interest and seriously considering a bunch of schools before ultimately deciding on Kentucky.
Pry do a cut to 5, then down to 3 for the full shitshow.
 
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