***2021 NCAAM Coaching Changes***

[HawkLax6]

 

[CurdMan]

interesting...I was in agreement with this until someone close to the program told me otherwise. We will see I guess.

I was wrong. KG is interested.

 

[ISUFan98]

It absolutely blows my mind. How the fuck can you not have everything but the signature on paper?

They have to be so arrogant they thought they would buy out Archie and coaches would be lining up for them.

For fuck's sake, just hire Alford already and get it over with.

They're the Nebrantska of CBB. Hoosier fans think recruits are still clamoring for the Coach Knight days of yore.

 

[douglasbader]

They're the Nebrantska of CBB. Hoosier fans think recruits are still clamoring for the Coach Knight days of yore.

It really is the best comparison. Bobby Knight hasn't coached there in 21 years, so any kid they are recruiting was like 5 years from being born the last time he was there. Shit, their parents might have been children the last time Knight had been to a Sweet 16 in 1994.

Crean got them to a few Sweet 16's and a high ranking, but other than a couple seasons Indiana has been mediocre since the early 90's.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Indiana has a lot more reason to be good than Nebrantska football though. That poll of conference coaches ranked it the best job in the league.

 

[CamelTones]

Indiana has a lot more reason to be good than Nebrantska football though. That poll of conference coaches ranked it the best job in the league.

Of course because their home state recruiting base is 100x greater than what Nebrantska football has. The problem is they haven’t had a coach that can keep those guys in state in awhile. Davis got them to the championship game and fans still wanted him gone.

Even with that, their roster was loaded with 4 and 5 star players the last couple years and they were still mediocre. If they’re moving on to candidates outside their top 5 wish list then they’ll likely be looking for another coach in 3 years.

 

[ISUFan98]

Of course because their home state recruiting base is 100x greater than what Nebrantska football has. The problem is they haven’t had a coach that can keep those guys in state in awhile. Davis got them to the championship game and fans still wanted him gone.

Even with that, their roster was loaded with 4 and 5 star players the last couple years and they were still mediocre. If they’re moving on to candidates outside their top 5 wish list then they’ll likely be looking for another coach in 3 years.

There's a very good reason they wanted Davis gone.

 

[eclone]

 

[ivan_drago]

There's a very good reason they wanted Davis gone.

LOL no shit. Indiana could’ve won ten titles with him and a large portion of their fanbase would still have wanted him fired. Something about him....

 

[ivan_drago]

That said, Indiana isn’t anything like Nebrantska IMO. They’ve been pretty successful recently in comparison. They fired Crean for winning two big ten titles!

 

[Wanderer]

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Curious, @eclone and maybe it's been talked about. Would you have rather gotten this guy? He's been on a lot of lists, has won 75 games the last three years, including 42-13 in the Mountain West. Buyout was actually less than $1 million. From the Midwest (Minnesota). Seems like he would have been a good fit for you guys.

 

[BBK]

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[kenos]

Frank Martin stays at South Carolina -- because the school blew their buyout wad on Will Muschamp, and the boosters don't care enough about basketball....

What a shitty job.

https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/university-of-south-carolina/usc-mens-basketball/article250244305.html

 

[Saul Berkley]

Frank Martin stays at South Carolina -- because the school blew their buyout wad on Will Muschamp, and the boosters don't care enough about basketball....

What a shitty job.

https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/university-of-south-carolina/usc-mens-basketball/article250244305.html

He's had a very mediocre career at South Carolina with the exception of that Final Four run. Why did he leave K-State again?

 

[kenos]

He's had a very mediocre career at South Carolina with the exception of that Final Four run. Why did he leave K-State again?

Because his in-practice demeanor suggested that he thought Bobby Knight was a limp-wristed daisy, and everyone in Manhattan was tired of the act.

The final four run saved his job at South Carolina, but kids -- apparently -- don't wish to put up with him, so the best in-state talent goes elsewhere.

There's a lot of talent in the state, but even at the HS level, basketball is seen as a distant second to FB, so it's just not an emphasis. Between the in-state kids and the semi-sketchy diploma mills in a couple of cities, the right coach could do pretty well. But why try to fight football?

 

[HiawathaHawk]

He's had a very mediocre career at South Carolina with the exception of that Final Four run. Why did he leave K-State again?

New A.D. came in and they hated each other.

 

[TH1974]

New A.D. came in and they hated each other.

That's hard to believe, he seems like such a likeable guy.

 

[Hawkstrat]

I would love to be in the position to call a coach mediocre outside of a final four run.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

I would love to be in the position to call a coach mediocre outside of a final four run.

Yeah that sounds dumb but he’s pretty much right. That’s the only tournament he’s made in 9 years there. They made the Final Four as a 7 seed.

 

[eclone]

Curious, @eclone and maybe it's been talked about. Would you have rather gotten this guy? He's been on a lot of lists, has won 75 games the last three years, including 42-13 in the Mountain West. Buyout was actually less than $1 million. From the Midwest (Minnesota). Seems like he would have been a good fit for you guys.

2 comments.
1. I did get him—Utah is my other alma matter
2. For all of the reasons you listed, he was my preferred option after Otz. Otz was clearly pollard’s #1 option. And I’m honestly good with that. I think he’s a good coach and a great recruiter. I have no problem giving him his first major college job to see if he has he chops at this level. But if that wouldn’t have worked out, I hope Smith was the next in line.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

2 comments.
1. I did get him—Utah is my other alma matter
2. For all of the reasons you listed, he was my preferred option after Otz. Otz was clearly pollard’s #1 option. And I’m honestly good with that. I think he’s a good coach and a great recruiter. I have no problem giving him his first major college job to see if he has he chops at this level. But if that wouldn’t have worked out, I hope Smith was the next in line.

Are you a weatherman? how many wives do you have?

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

 

[ISUFan98]

Woof.

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

 

[bigazzturkeylegs]

 

[ivan_drago]

 

[JD720]

Jeez. He probably doesn’t even remember his playing career at Indiana.

 

[Hawkstrat]

They should have targeted Houston's coach.

 

[TH1974]

What a shitty hire

 

[Swingin' Dick Stanzi]

What a shitty hire. IU fans were convinced they would end up with Brad Stevens. Instead, they get a 62 year-old with zero college coaching experience that went below .500 as an NBA head coach.

 

[Talkin' Goat]

Shitty hire IMO

 

[Talkin' Goat]

 

[Hawkstrat]

I'm sure that will work.

 

[ivan_drago]

They definitely won’t have issues.

 

[TH1974]

the fuck

 

[Hawkstrat]

You know the old phrase, the more cooks in the kitchen the merrier.

 

[The Tin Man]

 

[roseboundhawk]

Seems like a hire Rutgers would make.

 

[ISUFan98]

A college of college coaches.

 

[bigazzturkeylegs]

 

[scottsdalehawk]

I'd be furious if that was Iowa's hire. I can't imagine what Indiana fans think of it.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Not a good hire but if they use the resources to have Thad do some big picture stuff and hire a good staff it could work.

 

[thrawn]

It really is the best comparison. Bobby Knight hasn't coached there in 21 years, so any kid they are recruiting was like 5 years from being born the last time he was there. Shit, their parents might have been children the last time Knight had been to a Sweet 16 in 1994.

Crean got them to a few Sweet 16's and a high ranking, but other than a couple seasons Indiana has been mediocre since the early 90's.

Isn’t Michigan football the better comparison? They haven’t been bad generally speaking but haven’t hit their old peak in forever. It’s still a good job with good resources but changes over time have made it more like a top 15 job than a top 5 one.

 

[WCFHawkeye]

You know the old phrase, the more cooks in the kitchen the merrier.

I browse Halo too much. I seriously read this as "the more cocks in the kitchen the merrier."

Had to stop and reread. Fuck me.

 

[TH1974]

I browse Halo too much. I seriously read this as "the more cocks in the kitchen the merrier."

Had to stop and reread. Fuck me.

Browsing HaLo too much, or snooping through your wife's text messages?

 

[CamelTones]

But seriously, what exactly is Mattas job going to entail?

 

[kenos]

But seriously, what exactly is Mattas job going to entail?

Run the show with Woodson as a figurehead.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Isn’t Michigan football the better comparison? They haven’t been bad generally speaking but haven’t hit their old peak in forever. It’s still a good job with good resources but changes over time have made it more like a top 15 job than a top 5 one.

Agreed

 

[HiawathaHawk]

But seriously, what exactly is Mattas job going to entail?

I’m guessing he’ll be a connection point for him with AAU programs and high school coaches. Help without breakdowns and film stuff on the league. Probably avoid travel, hands on recruiting, banquets, crazy hours, real stress/responsibility but still scratch the coaching itch and get paid well.

 

[BngHawk]

I browse Halo too much. I seriously read this as "the more cocks in the kitchen the merrier."

Had to stop and reread. Fuck me.

You a little bit gay?