***2024-2025 Iowa Men’s Basketball Season Thread***

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Maybe I'm making this up but I seem to remember there was a prevailing belief at the time amongst pseudo-smart people ("ANALYTICS SAY!") that there was no such thing as good or bad 3-point defense. It was just bad luck.

Am I making that up?
You are mostly making it up, with a side of misunderstanding. A defense has more control over how many three pointers an opponent attempts, and less control over opponent's 3 pt%. Which, of course, isn't saying 3 pt defense is unimportant or luck.
 

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It's been wild to see so many Iowa fans get to the point with Fran I've been for a while. The 'happy to make the tournament' crowd really thinned out when Iowa starts fighting for NIT births and their own conference tournament. Crazy thing is before this year there really was maybe only one bad season, but my problem with him has always been how low his ceiling has been.

I'm not convinced a change happens this year. I don't want Iowa to lose out like many others do, and will continue to go to a game but there's no doubt the Carver gameday atmosphere is dead and buried with Fran.

The best hire for Iowa would be a small school coach who will leave after 4-5 years for a better job. Not a lifer. Still that NIL money isn't going to magically appear just because Fran is gone so it will be an uphill battle.
 

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This years basketball team could potentially be the worst defensive Big 10 team in the KenPom era. During conference games they are allowing a defensive efficiency rate of 118.8 which is the second worst since 1996-97. Only the 15-16 Rutgers team was worse. Iowa opponents have an eFG% of 59.1 in conference games this year. For reference, Steph Curry's career eFG% is 58.1. It is fucking atrocious basketball and anyone who wants Fran back is retarded.
That Rutgers team went 1-17 in conference play with their only win the last game of the season over a 2-16 in conference play Minnesota.

That's how good Fran's offense is that this Iowa team is even 5-9.

Iowa should sign him to an extension.
 

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It's been wild to see so many Iowa fans get to the point with Fran I've been for a while. The 'happy to make the tournament' crowd really thinned out when Iowa starts fighting for NIT births and their own conference tournament. Crazy thing is before this year there really was maybe only one bad season, but my problem with him has always been how low his ceiling has been.

I'm not convinced a change happens this year. I don't want Iowa to lose out like many others do, and will continue to go to a game but there's no doubt the Carver gameday atmosphere is dead and buried with Fran.

The best hire for Iowa would be a small school coach who will leave after 4-5 years for a better job. Not a lifer. Still that NIL money isn't going to magically appear just because Fran is gone so it will be an uphill battle.
It actually took a while to convince me how low the ceiling was because we kept getting slightly better every year. But then there was a clear peak, which wasn’t actually that high, followed by a steady decline since.
 

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It's been wild to see so many Iowa fans get to the point with Fran I've been for a while. The 'happy to make the tournament' crowd really thinned out when Iowa starts fighting for NIT births and their own conference tournament. Crazy thing is before this year there really was maybe only one bad season, but my problem with him has always been how low his ceiling has been.

I'm not convinced a change happens this year. I don't want Iowa to lose out like many others do, and will continue to go to a game but there's no doubt the Carver gameday atmosphere is dead and buried with Fran.

The best hire for Iowa would be a small school coach who will leave after 4-5 years for a better job. Not a lifer. Still that NIL money isn't going to magically appear just because Fran is gone so it will be an uphill battle.
DeVries is the best hire, because if NIL money doesn’t show up with him, it’s never coming.
 

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Im holding out hope that the NIL is there, and the boosters are just holding out due to some sort of beef with Fran.

Do people really think of DeVries as some kind of world beater coach who would be a slam dunk hire? I'm not so sure.
 

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I have some mild insiders that swear to me up and down that this is Fran's last season and DeVries will be the next coach. But I'm not buying it.
 

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You are mostly making it up, with a side of misunderstanding. A defense has more control over how many three pointers an opponent attempts, and less control over opponent's 3 pt%. Which, of course, isn't saying 3 pt defense is unimportant or luck.
Michigan St has led the Big 10 in opponents 3 pt % in 5 of the last 6 seasons, so we should probably just do whatever Izzo is doing.
 

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Hard to see any scenario of a Fran return. Only 3 games have had more than 6000 in attendance; if that brings Fran back then the AD has written the program off as irrelevant.
 

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Michigan St has led the Big 10 in opponents 3 pt % in 5 of the last 6 seasons, so we should probably just do whatever Izzo is doing.
Become the director of Big Ten officiating?
 

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Even if/when he is replaced, nobody should be under any delusion that attendance will ever return to previous levels. As discussed a thousand times on here, no matter how good they are the days of consistent 12k-15k crowds are gone.

Bringing in the Drake or former Drake coach inspires zero passion or spark beyond core fans.

They would have to bring in Bruce Pearl to move the needle in a big way.
 

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They need to both win and play good teams at home. Neither of which will both happen at the same time.
 

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I have some mild insiders that swear to me up and down that this is Fran's last season and DeVries will be the next coach. But I'm not buying it.
That’s what my sources are saying too
 

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Even if/when he is replaced, nobody should be under any delusion that attendance will ever return to previous levels. As discussed a thousand times on here, no matter how good they are the days of consistent 12k-15k crowds are gone.

Bringing in the Drake or former Drake coach inspires zero passion or spark beyond core fans.

They would have to bring in Bruce Pearl to move the needle in a big way.
I disagree. Iowa State does it, and the Iowa women do it. The University of Iowa Men’s Basketball Team can certainly be a hot ticket again.

Get someone to coach a winning team with explosive athletes that are fun to watch, and stop scheduling like fucking morons and people will come back.

I’m not driving to CHA to watch a bunch of unathletic Iowa kids give up 95 points to Purdue. And I’m not driving to CHA to watch an otherwise exciting basketball team bore me to death beating some place called Elon by 60 points. But if you can give me an exciting team of athletes with a chance to make some postseason noise play a team in the top 100, I will drive to CHA in November.
 

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I disagree. Iowa State does it, and the Iowa women do it. The University of Iowa Men’s Basketball Team can certainly be a hot ticket again.

Get someone to coach a winning team with explosive athletes that are fun to watch, and stop scheduling like fucking morons and people will come back.

I’m not driving to CHA to watch a bunch of unathletic Iowa kids give up 95 points to Purdue. And I’m not driving to CHA to watch an otherwise exciting basketball team bore me to death beating some place called Elon by 60 points. But if you can give me an exciting team of athletes with a chance to make some postseason noise play a team in the top 100, I will drive to CHA in November.
Did you go to a lot of games the season they won the BTT?

Obviously we will never know, but I do agree with the thought that Iowa would have had some monster crowds during Garza’s senior season. There is something about the attendance for the midweek games which the university needs to address one way or another.
 

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Did you go to a lot of games the season they won the BTT?

Obviously we will never know, but I do agree with the thought that Iowa would have had some monster crowds during Garza’s senior season. There is something about the attendance for the midweek games which the university needs to address one way or another.
3 or 4. Is that a lot?

I went to 0 this year
 

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3 or 4. Is that a lot?

I went to 0 this year
I’d say yes. You are the type of fan Iowa basketball needs to get to return. I had my tickets the first year I moved back to Chicago and maybe got to 5-6 games. It’s not realistic for the Chicago alumni base.
 

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Did you go to a lot of games the season they won the BTT?

Obviously we will never know, but I do agree with the thought that Iowa would have had some monster crowds during Garza’s senior season. There is something about the attendance for the midweek games which the university needs to address one way or another.
Got screwed out of fans at the North Carolina game, that atmosphere would have been electric.
 

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1) brad S. from Boston, thanks to our ADs Rolodex
2) devries
3) mccollum
 

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I disagree. Iowa State does it, and the Iowa women do it. The University of Iowa Men’s Basketball Team can certainly be a hot ticket again.

Get someone to coach a winning team with explosive athletes that are fun to watch, and stop scheduling like fucking morons and people will come back.

I’m not driving to CHA to watch a bunch of unathletic Iowa kids give up 95 points to Purdue. And I’m not driving to CHA to watch an otherwise exciting basketball team bore me to death beating some place called Elon by 60 points. But if you can give me an exciting team of athletes with a chance to make some postseason noise play a team in the top 100, I will drive to CHA in November.
Iowa State is 30 mins from the largest metro area in the state . Iowa doesn’t have that luxury.
 

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Im holding out hope that the NIL is there, and the boosters are just holding out due to some sort of beef with Fran.

Do people really think of DeVries as some kind of world beater coach who would be a slam dunk hire? I'm not so sure.
no one is saying that. He’s a good coach, a proven coach, he wants the job, and the best we are going to get.
 

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If they were to get to the sweet 16 and return a majority of their starters, they would easily sell out 3/4 games the following season
 

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Right and it’s still a basketball problem anyway. They’re not selling out football games so it isn’t that big of an advantage
 

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If they were to get to the sweet 16 and return a majority of their starters, they would easily sell out 3/4 games the following season
They would have sold out most games Garza’s senior year. Would have sold out most games if Keegan Murray would have been back for his junior year. They just need people to think they’re going to have a good season.
 

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Did you go to a lot of games the season they won the BTT?

Obviously we will never know, but I do agree with the thought that Iowa would have had some monster crowds during Garza’s senior season. There is something about the attendance for the midweek games which the university needs to address one way or another.
Was that the year you and I went to the game together???
 

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Not sure what to think about attendance. Not sure it is the fans necessarily.

3 other Iowa sports are selling out consistently, mens basketball can barely get half of carver filled
 

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Minnesota came back and won at UCLA last night. Iowa is still likely to avoid missing the BTT, but they need to show up on Saturday and at Northwestern. Just sad.

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Not sure what to think about attendance. Not sure it is the fans necessarily.

3 other Iowa sports are selling out consistently, mens basketball can barely get half of carver filled
Most schools don’t seriously compete with other Winter sports. There’s only so much money, time and energy to go around. Until men’s basketball either drastically cuts prices or gets a lot better I don’t see anyone trading in their women’s tickets.
 

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i see two more wins as most likely for iowa, leaving them at 7-13 in conference. yikes
 

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LOL who was the poster who was star fucking about sitting next to that fucking loser Hawkeye Elvis? Wanderer??
 

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LOL who was the poster who was star fucking about sitting next to that fucking loser Hawkeye Elvis? Wanderer??
I drank with him at Stu and Herbs (or whatever it’s called) after the game in 2022 I think? We first went to Sallys, and he was in line, by himself. Literally had nobody to drink with in his home town. He latched onto our group and we went to the other place and he was a decent guy. I don’t think I bragged about it here though 😀
 
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