**2026 Iowa Football Season Thread**

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That wasn't my point. L Wade Dipshit above tried to say that the reason Iowa doesn't get elite athletes is because the offense has historically been bad. Then I pointed out that our defense historically has been great and we don't get five star athletes there. Then he realizes he made a stupid point and bailed.
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That wasn't my point. L Wade Dipshit above tried to say that the reason Iowa doesn't get elite athletes is because the offense has historically been bad. Then I pointed out that our defense historically has been great and we don't get five star athletes there. Then he realizes he made a stupid point and bailed.
Why do we coach offense and defense with completely different philosophies? The defense is simple, nothing terribly challenging, but they do it well and aim to force other teams to make mistakes.

Why do we coach our offense to do the same thing that we want the other teams offense to be?
 

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Why do we coach offense and defense with completely different philosophies? The defense is simple, nothing terribly challenging, but they do it well and aim to force other teams to make mistakes.

Why do we coach our offense to do the same thing that we want the other teams offense to be?
So you want Kirk’s son, Brian Ferentz back?
 

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I don't understand what the problem is. Three seasons ago Iowa averaged 15 points per game. Last season they were just short of 30. They've made significant progress the past two years, and made that progress with a different quarterback each year. So the offense is complicated? So what? It appears to be working. And you can start to see that a little bit by the portal players they brought in. Diaz was offered by Alabama for fucksake. I just think we need to unwad our panties on this. Progress is being made.
 

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If you have goals of seeing Iowa's offense throwing for 300 yards a game, then you probably need to switch teams. Tim Lester is a disciple of the West Coast offense, and particularly the Shanahan version. The Green Bay version. He was on that staff. Those offenses are pretty much 50/50 run pass.
 

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Kahmari Brown :oops:

"A second-team FCS All-American last year at Elon, Brown led the CAA program with 16 TFLs, 12 sacks, three forced fumbles and eight QB hurries. This offseason, the 6-2, 258-pound Brown, a former high school running back in North Carolina, broad jumped 10-3, vertical jumped 40.2 inches and was timed at 1.56 in his 10-yard split. All exceptional numbers for a nearly 260-pound edge rusher."
 

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That wasn't my point. L Wade Dipshit above tried to say that the reason Iowa doesn't get elite athletes is because the offense has historically been bad. Then I pointed out that our defense historically has been great and we don't get five star athletes there. Then he realizes he made a stupid point and bailed.
You are incredibly soft. Offended at every single thing that doesn’t perfectly fit your preconceived thoughts. Can’t even bother to read the actual words that people type.

I hope you enjoy our excellent offense and the forthcoming recruiting boost in that side of the ball.
 

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You are incredibly soft. Offended at every single thing that doesn’t perfectly fit your preconceived thoughts. Can’t even bother to read the actual words that people type.

I hope you enjoy our excellent offense and the forthcoming recruiting boost in that side of the ball.
I'm not upset in the least. Nor am I offended. I just speak directly. Which is something you're not used to because you've never been confronted by anyone in your life. Which is why you are the way you are. You are a coddled baby who was never told to shut up. You're the one who didn't read. Or actually I think you might have read them which is why you pulled the LOL and hit the bailout switch
 

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It's not only schemes.

Let's forget route adjustments and recognizing the defensive scheme. Let's forget about the pressure of the pass rush.

Imagine a known play with four receivers running routes against man to man coverage.

The QB has to a) know those four routes, b) know his progression through those four routes, c) mentally process the progression and determine the highest priority open receiver, and d) physically adjust to what they are seeing and mentally processing in order to throw the ball to the chosen receiver.

I pretty shittily played QB in high school. The pass rush didn't bother me. a) and b) weren't an issue. I knew what I was supposed to do. c) and d) are where I really struggled. It took me too long to mentally process whether or not a certain receiver was open, and to physically adjust (turn my body, etc) if I was going to throw to anyone other than the #1 receiver in the progression.

Now add routes that adjust based upon coverage to that mix.

It's really hard.
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Kahmari Brown :oops:

"A second-team FCS All-American last year at Elon, Brown led the CAA program with 16 TFLs, 12 sacks, three forced fumbles and eight QB hurries. This offseason, the 6-2, 258-pound Brown, a former high school running back in North Carolina, broad jumped 10-3, vertical jumped 40.2 inches and was timed at 1.56 in his 10-yard split. All exceptional numbers for a nearly 260-pound edge rusher."
This is pretty exciting for me.
 

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I'm not upset in the least. Nor am I offended. I just speak directly. Which is something you're not used to because you've never been confronted by anyone in your life. Which is why you are the way you are. You are a coddled baby who was never told to shut up. You're the one who didn't read. Or actually I think you might have read them which is why you pulled the LOL and hit the bailout switch
yeah I was way thrown off by the use of the term “dipshit” for no apparent reason other than you disagreeing.

All hail the football expert who doesn’t think our offensive track record hurts recruiting, and that everything will be great and we are dumb for questioning him!
 

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Kirk has hired and retained excellent defensive coordinators. They have been elite at scheming, adjusting, and player development.

His offensive choices have mostly been embarrassingly bad. Kirk doesn’t know how to put together a good offense in today’s college football. Hopefully Tim Lester is the answer, this year will go a long way in finding out.
Iowa's defense is very simplistic as well. That's part of the reason for their success.
 

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yeah I was way thrown off by the use of the term “dipshit” for no apparent reason other than you disagreeing.

All hail the football expert who doesn’t think our offensive track record hurts recruiting, and that everything will be great and we are dumb for questioning him!
Yes, I called you a dipshit, after you decided to "lol ok" my point right before it. But, apologies. Please, though, if you will, address my question on the previous page. You suggested that perhaps the reason Iowa doesn't get elite athletes on offense is because the offense has been so terrible. So, using that logic, why doesn't Iowa get elite players on defense? If the overall success of the unit dictates the quality of athlete a team can recruit, then why doesn't Iowa bring in a handful of 4 and 5 star athletes on defense every year? After all, very few schools have had the defensive success Iowa has had the past 25 years.
 

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Yes, I called you a dipshit, after you decided to "lol ok" my point right before it. But, apologies. Please, though, if you will, address my question on the previous page. You suggested that perhaps the reason Iowa doesn't get elite athletes on offense is because the offense has been so terrible. So, using that logic, why doesn't Iowa get elite players on defense? If the overall success of the unit dictates the quality of athlete a team can recruit, then why doesn't Iowa bring in a handful of 4 and 5 star athletes on defense every year? After all, very few schools have had the defensive success Iowa has had the past 25 years.
I don’t think L Wade is engaging in good faith, friend.
 

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Our defensive recruiting is far head of the offensive skill positions. I didn’t say anything about getting 5 stars- you did- but regardless, we bring in way more talent on defense (reasonably frequent 4* and the occasional 5*) than we do at QB, WR, or RB.

There are several reasons for this (local recruiting base, NIL, focus on ball control, etc) but if you think our offensive scheme and general reputation as a team who loves to punt doesn’t hurt our efforts to get skill position talent, I don’t know what to tell you.
 

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Our defensive recruiting is far head of the offensive skill positions. I didn’t say anything about getting 5 stars- you did- but regardless, we bring in way more talent on defense (reasonably frequent 4* and the occasional 5*) than we do at QB, WR, or RB.

There are several reasons for this (local recruiting base, NIL, focus on ball control, etc) but if you think our offensive scheme and general reputation as a team who loves to punt doesn’t hurt our efforts to get skill position talent, I don’t know what to tell you.
We don't get any more elite athletes (which, in college football translates to 4 and 5 stars) on defense than offense. But since we're moving goalposts, it's now limited to QB, RB, WR?
 
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I don't understand what the problem is. Three seasons ago Iowa averaged 15 points per game. Last season they were just short of 30. They've made significant progress the past two years, and made that progress with a different quarterback each year. So the offense is complicated? So what? It appears to be working. And you can start to see that a little bit by the portal players they brought in. Diaz was offered by Alabama for fucksake. I just think we need to unwad our panties on this. Progress is being made.
The problem is that Iowa still ranked outside the top 80 in yards per play last season. That's entirely a function of them lacking anything that resembles a consistent medium to deep passing game. They were extremely efficient last year in red zone scoring and short yardage, which was great to see, and the running game is consistent and fixed now.

They don't need to throw for 300 yards per game, but to have truly functional offense, they need to throw for 200 consistently. Unsure if the have the QBs to do that, but they've had time to learn the system at least.

No one here can argue the offense hasn't been going in the right direction, but it's not a good college offense yet. It's been a reliable running game with a broken pass offense. To get to that 30 PPG number you're giving the offense credit for points scored by special teams/defense.
 

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The problem is that Iowa still ranked outside the top 80 in yards per play last season. That's entirely a function of them lacking anything that resembles a consistent medium to deep passing game. They were extremely efficient last year in red zone scoring and short yardage, which was great to see, and the running game is consistent and fixed now.

They don't need to throw for 300 yards per game, but to have truly functional offense, they need to throw for 200 consistently. Unsure if the have the QBs to do that, but they've had time to learn the system at least.

No one here can argue the offense hasn't been going in the right direction, but it's not a good college offense yet. It's been a reliable running game with a broken pass offense. To get to that 30 PPG number you're giving the offense credit for points scored by special teams/defense.

To be fair (or not), Iowa had a QB that was hobbled from shoulder surgery at the start of the year and then hobbled from a knee injury in the middle of the season. He looked bad and couldn't throw for shit in most of those games.

When he finally got healthy and against Nebrantska and then especially against a very good Vanderbilt team (albeit not with a great defense), Iowa was up in the Top 25 or even the Top 15 in YPP. He finally threw for 200+ yards with multiple great throws down the field.

This year will be telling for Lester and the offense. They have the best offensive weapons collectively in maybe 10+ years and a really good offensive line. They should be able to get near 6.0 YPP if things go right. There is some legitimate reason for hope for the first time since Nate Stanley was here.
 

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Holy fucking shit, these two games by Gronowski to start the season last year vs. the last 2 games of the year. Atrocious. Night and day.

Combination of getting healthy, having your best WR healthy and a stud TE emerge.

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We don't get any more elite athletes (which, in college football translates to 4 and 5 stars) on defense than offense. But since we're moving goalposts, it's now limited to QB, RB, WR?
what? I mean if you dont follow recruiting rankings that’s fine, but they clearly disprove your comments.
 

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Why are you engaging with him? Just laugh at him and call him a retard.
because from the beginning I clearly stated skill positions. Most of our highly ranked offensive players are linemen, or the occasional tight end. And most programs don’t utilize a tight end like we do, so it’s not valued as highly by other schools.

again, reading the actual words people type is an important part of respectful discussion. Are you also going to argue that we recruit just as well at the offensive skill positions as we do on defense?
 

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I take comfort in knowing LWade is widely considered a top 3 retard on this board, so when he lectures me on my reading comprehension it really doesn't sting at all.
 

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I just put top 3 because I wanted to avoid hyperbole.
 

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because from the beginning I clearly stated skill positions. Most of our highly ranked offensive players are linemen, or the occasional tight end. And most programs don’t utilize a tight end like we do, so it’s not valued as highly by other schools.

again, reading the actual words people type is an important part of respectful discussion. Are you also going to argue that we recruit just as well at the offensive skill positions as we do on defense?
That's a lot of words to confirm you're a retard and we should laugh at you.
 

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During Covid. When Iowa state won a fiesta bowl. I’m a season they list to ul monroe
 

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when facts and common sense show that you are wrong, just call everyone retarded and dig in further.

This is trumps America.
 
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