**Illinois at Iowa Basketball, 2-4-23, 1:30PM, FOX**

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He’s as good as anyone in the business.
Really glad he’s elevating the number of national broadcasts he gets. He should be doing lots of Big Ten going forward.

Carver sounded great. When it’s good, it’s as good as any building in the country.
 

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Really glad he’s elevating the number of national broadcasts he gets. He should be doing lots of Big Ten going forward.

Carver sounded great. When it’s good, it’s as good as any building in the country.
I know I’m in the HaLo minority with this, but I love CHA.
 

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Carver is great. The ceiling is high. The problem is, the floor is low, and the department does nothing to maximize home court advantage.
 

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The biggest problem with Carver is the number of stairs, concessions and traffic. The lack of bars in the area is a problem as well. For big games it is great, but for lower level games it is hard to get people in the door.
 

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Isn't the problem actually the lack of steepness to the seating and how far away the typical fan is from the court considering the size of the arena?
 

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Iowa just couldn’t land a kill shot. They had quite a few opportunities it seemed. I remember thinking in the moment multiple times “shit, if that had dropped, the roof blows off.”
 

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Isn't the problem actually the lack of steepness to the seating and how far away the typical fan is from the court considering the size of the arena?
I don’t feel far away at all unless I’m near the top.

Go look at ISUfan’s photo of his seats in Hilton.
 

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The problem with CHA has always been the people in it. The arena can rock when everyone is engaged. It would be nice to have it where the Old Capitol Mall is currently.
This is correct. At the game against Rutgers last weekend the student section was less than half full.
 

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The problem with CHA has always been the people in it. The arena can rock when everyone is engaged. It would be nice to have it where the Old Capitol Mall is currently.
That’s the dream. A downtown arena with more than 14 parking spots at a bar down the street (that somehow decided not to open until 11 yesterday.)
 

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Reffing was worrisome in the first half. Getting physical but no whistles. In the second, they called all the bumping and thank god they did. Then Iowa won it at the line and with Perkins. The last 60 seconds may have taken a half hour.
Illinois fans are PISSED they got caught fouling in the 2nd half.
 
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Replace the stairs with slides and Carver would be packed every game.
 

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Thankfully they built the roof high
Jesus you’re dumb.

Ceiling in terms of energy in the building. It outperforms most places when good, it’s cavernous and worse than most places when bad. Not the physical dimensions of the ceiling and ground.
 

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Lol, newsy gonna act like he didn't try to make a terrible pun.
 

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It wasn’t a pun, it’s a super common sports analogy. The best is great, the worst is awful. It should’ve been obvious, but ol Balls does struggle.
 

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That was the first home game where I wasn’t sure they would pull it out. They kept getting it within 2 or 3 points only to have Illinois extend it back out to 6 or 7 by getting offensive rebounds. Iowa had 2 or 3 chances halfway through the second half to tie the game and either missed an open shot or turned it over.

Luckily Perkins was automatic from the foul line. Hitting 15 in a row in a game that tight is more impressive than hitting 30 in a row over 5 or 6 games IMO. Sucked that he missed the last one.
 

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That was the first home game where I wasn’t sure they would pull it out. They kept getting it within 2 or 3 points only to have Illinois extend it back out to 6 or 7 by getting offensive rebounds. Iowa had 2 or 3 chances halfway through the second half to tie the game and either missed an open shot or turned it over.

Luckily Perkins was automatic from the foul line. Hitting 15 in a row in a game that tight is more impressive than hitting 30 in a row over 5 or 6 games IMO. Sucked that he missed the last one.
Tied Woolridge's record for most consecutive makes in one game.
 

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Sometimes, just sometimes, the ceiling is high and the floor is low.
 

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Once again Gasser came up big. Especially enjoyed his little dance after Sandfort made the three.
 

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I also love carver. So do most visitors from other schools I speak with. There is no way the traffic logistics of a downtown arena are possible.

But this is what they should do.

1. Build two 500+ spot parking ramps (think tower place downtown) funded by facility revenue bonds- one where the hillside timber is to the west, and the other on the north side of the current dental lot. Both have elevated walkways into the Carver concourse, which alleviates pedestrian vs vehicle congestions.

2. Reconfigure the current traffic infrastructure so the current “batcave” becomes a higher capacity exit option off EB 6 directly to that new ramp and possibly (3) below. Within those ramps, there’s exit with an option to exit directly onto EB highway 6 mini flyover exit onto WB 6 that includes pedestrian walkways or ten foot paved trails from Newton and the med school to the Vine/Wig/Jethros bar district and the Iowa River Trail.

3. Move either the dental school (assume this happening in the next couple decades anyways)/RMH OR, more likely, the Soccer practice field, in favor of a new mixed use entertainment area, developed through public-private partnership. Build a pedestrian bridge over Highway 6 from the new bars to the Vine/Wig with Jamie Pollards picture on it and the name of the new area, which is the Legend12 Clear Creek-City Sports Mecca.
4.????
5. Profit
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They're already building a new ramp next year in the north Kinnick lot
 

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Inside, I would remove like 4 current sections and extend the concourse where the terrace boxes are currently located towards the court. The results is that you have additional square footage for a couple airport-sized brand name bars (bww, spoco?). Below the new extended concourse you build an experience similar to Pacha in Kinnick. You could put an escalator and elevator there that goes down to the suites all the way to current floor level.
 

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I also love carver. So do most visitors from other schools I speak with. There is no way the traffic logistics of a downtown arena are possible.

But this is what they should do.

1. Build two 500+ spot parking ramps (think tower place downtown) funded by facility revenue bonds- one where the hillside timber is to the west, and the other on the north side of the current dental lot. Both have elevated walkways into the Carver concourse, which alleviates pedestrian vs vehicle congestions.

2. Reconfigure the current traffic infrastructure so the current “batcave” becomes a higher capacity exit option off EB 6 directly to that new ramp and possibly (3) below. Within those ramps, there’s exit with an option to exit directly onto EB highway 6 mini flyover exit onto WB 6 that includes pedestrian walkways or ten foot paved trails from Newton and the med school to the Vine/Wig/Jethros bar district and the Iowa River Trail.

3. Move either the dental school (assume this happening in the next couple decades anyways)/RMH OR, more likely, the Soccer practice field, in favor of a new mixed use entertainment area, developed through public-private partnership. Build a pedestrian bridge over Highway 6 from the new bars to the Vine/Wig with Jamie Pollards picture on it and the name of the new area, which is the Legend12 Clear Creek-City Sports Mecca.
4.????
5. Profit
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I also love carver. So do most visitors from other schools I speak with. There is no way the traffic logistics of a downtown arena are possible.

But this is what they should do.

1. Build two 500+ spot parking ramps (think tower place downtown) funded by facility revenue bonds- one where the hillside timber is to the west, and the other on the north side of the current dental lot. Both have elevated walkways into the Carver concourse, which alleviates pedestrian vs vehicle congestions.

2. Reconfigure the current traffic infrastructure so the current “batcave” becomes a higher capacity exit option off EB 6 directly to that new ramp and possibly (3) below. Within those ramps, there’s exit with an option to exit directly onto EB highway 6 mini flyover exit onto WB 6 that includes pedestrian walkways or ten foot paved trails from Newton and the med school to the Vine/Wig/Jethros bar district and the Iowa River Trail.

3. Move either the dental school (assume this happening in the next couple decades anyways)/RMH OR, more likely, the Soccer practice field, in favor of a new mixed use entertainment area, developed through public-private partnership. Build a pedestrian bridge over Highway 6 from the new bars to the Vine/Wig with Jamie Pollards picture on it and the name of the new area, which is the Legend12 Clear Creek-City Sports Mecca.
4.????
5. Profit
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Where could they put in a bridge?
 

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Where could they put in a bridge?
connect the nature trail south of the strip to the iowa river trail along the river. I believe that area is some part of drainage area so it would need to be built up anyways.

The inefficiency of getting pedestrians across hwy 6/Hawkins is a main driver of the clusterfuck. Also put a bridge connecting the new bars in was is currently dental lot with the baseball stadium. One of the bars should have a rooftop.
 

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Inside, I would remove like 4 current sections and extend the concourse where the terrace boxes are currently located towards the court. The results is that you have additional square footage for a couple airport-sized brand name bars (bww, spoco?). Below the new extended concourse you build an experience similar to Pacha in Kinnick. You could put an escalator and elevator there that goes down to the suites all the way to current floor level.
The entire athletic department offices are located underneath the stands. That’s not gonna work.
 

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I feel sorry for Lisa Bluder, who previously worked out of the homeless camp before we built her lower level corner office as part of the practice facility project.
 
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That was the best Carver experience I’ve had in awhile and I appreciated Fran parking Patrick on the bench in the second half
 
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