**Iowa Basketball vs. Clemson Thread - 11/25/22 - 6:00pm - CBSSN**

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Also won by double digits on the road in a super physical game at Seton Hall. The “at some point Iowa needs to adjust” argument is outdated. They’ve done that plenty the last two+ years.
My comment was more directed at the MSU and Wisconsin type games that are called that way from the beginning. No sense bitching about the refs in those cases. Perkins (and no bohannon) is incredibly helpful in these situations going forward.
 

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Fran's rotations in the first half won the game. His 2nd half rotations almost lost it.
 

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They did adjust to it, which is why they won. They toughed that game out despite the refs allowing way too much physical play which by nature slows down the offensive advantaged team and mucks the game up making it close.
This is absolutely 100% true. It was ridiculous. Just blow the whistle until they knock it off, refs.... it's not hard.
 

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This is absolutely 100% true. It was ridiculous. Just blow the whistle until they knock it off, refs.... it's not hard.
ISU takes the constant fouling to the next level. It makes me want to murder players like Grill and Kunc, and this is when they’re playing random teams I don’t give a shit about. The Iowa/ISU game is going to be so fucking painful to watch. Patrick and Rebecca are both candidates for double digit turnovers.
 

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ISU takes the constant fouling to the next level. It makes me want to murder players like Grill and Kunc, and this is when they’re playing random teams I don’t give a shit about. The Iowa/ISU game is going to be so fucking painful to watch. Patrick and Rebecca are both candidates for double digit turnovers.
It's in Carver, so that should help some.

Have to hope this is one of the games where Iowa is scorching on offense as I think Iowa State will be prone to getting buried if they get blitzed early.
 

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ISU takes the constant fouling to the next level. It makes me want to murder players like Grill and Kunc, and this is when they’re playing random teams I don’t give a shit about. The Iowa/ISU game is going to be so fucking painful to watch. Patrick and Rebecca are both candidates for double digit turnovers.
Does ISU really have players named Grill and Kunc? Do they slobber all over themselves and wear harnesses?
 

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I am fine with the starting 5, but would assume Sandfort to the bench, and Perkins slides over.

Bowen
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Rebraca
Keep bringing the freshman off the bench.
 

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Just accept it for what it is -- he's part of the rotation and our pg situation is better than it's ever been under fran.
 

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I'm not arguing he should start, just assuming that's what deuce meant.
 

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I'm not arguing he should start, just assuming that's what deuce meant.
I knew what deuce meant. It’s rinse and repeat with the promising young player.
 

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My retardation is well documented. I just think as he gets more seasoned he could end up starting or at least getting starter minutes.

Jeez!!
Breaking news!!! A promising freshman is probably going to get more minutes when gets more experience!!
 

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I knew what deuce meant. It’s rinse and repeat with the promising young player.
Same goes the other way though. Your side of the argument can never be proven wrong because it's always "well coach really eased so and so into his role and that was the reason player A broke out in year 2 or 3."

Not saying Bowen is on Keegan or Kris' level but if Fran let those guys grow on the floor more in Year 1 and 2 respectively I think the team would have been much better for it.

For this particular argument I'm not a huge fan of Bowen and Ulis on the floor together. I would rather see Bowen/Perkins and Ulis/Sandfart because I think the second unit could use someone that hunts for their shot.
 

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I don't think it should be Bowen, but maybe having one guard start the game is a poor idea.

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Might be good for Sandfort to come off the bench for awhile. I'm not freaking out about a loss in November, just wondering if Sandfort at the 2 is really Iowa's best bet.
 

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It’s about the most halo thing ever to think Bowen would or should be the eventual starting point guard this year.

He has no feel for finding the open man on offense and is constantly lost on defense.

I think he’ll end up being decent but man he is not good right now.
 

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It’s about the most halo thing ever to think Bowen would or should be the eventual starting point guard this year.

He has no feel for finding the open man on offense and is constantly lost on defense.

I think he’ll end up being decent but man he is not good right now.
How about shut the fuck up when you are the piece of shit that likes Wisconsin basketball?
 
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