**Iowa vs. Virginia Basketball - 11/29/21 - 6:00 pm - ESPN2**

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First 18 minutes was just about perfect. Then they figured out how to exploit the defense and we had to go against a set defense every trip and struggled. Lot of forced shots, many that they hit first half didn't fall. It's a good thing for the team that they went through that on the road and even better that they came out with a win.

I have no idea what we're going to do against physical teams with size but it's a fun team.
Space them and go 5 out.
 

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No he doesn't and the first sentence doesn't make any sense with Connor.
I agree with you on the first part, they both play team ball and that statement he made was absurd.

The second part I disagree. Connor is so bad at this point on offense that it is playing 4 on 5 with him on the court. He doesn't rebound well, he doesn't defend well. He wants to slow down instead of pushing way too often.

He's just a bad fit overall on this particular team outside of select situations.
 

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Them McCaffrey boys play shit team ball. Connor fucks up the offense and I think Pat still doesn't understand you have to play defense in college. They're the same players they were in high school.
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Kris has a lot of the good stuff that Keegan has but isn't always sure how to use it or what he wants to do. Just gonna take him some time but he'll have some big games along the way. Keegan will eventually realize he has to be the guy late in the clock to make something happen or draw enough attention for someone else. Twice tonight he had it on the perimeter with 5 on the shot clock and gave it up to Connor and then Perkins (I think?) where they had to force up a shot late.
If he didn't have that realized tonight by 9:30 then our coaches need fired.
 

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Yes he does. He can't pass to Garza or Nunge this year which means the one thing he could do, he can't anymore
So we're not going to post up Keegan, Rebraca or Kris? It's also not the only thing he can do. He's strong with the ball, loads up shooters in the right spot coming off screens and makes good decisions. He's not a scorer but he's still a guy with value off the bench and saying he doesn't play team ball or kills the offense is off base to me. He played 13 minutes tonight. 3 boards, 2 assists, 0 turnovers, missed 1 shot. Big offensive board and dish for a bucket. He is what he is but he'll help settle things when needed.
 

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Connor can play a role on this team as long as it’s not at the expense of getting Kris minutes. Play him 4-5 minutes each half or if someone is spazzing out and you need some stability like Hiawatha said.
 

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Connor has played in all 7 games this year, and 6 of them against terrible competition. Averaging about 18 minutes per game.

He is 2-9 (22%) from the floor. 1-7 (14%) from three. He has more fouls (9) than points (8).

That is just fucking awful and he is a detriment. Those minutes should almost all go to Perkins, Sandfort and Kris.
 

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Connor can play a role on this team as long as it’s not at the expense of getting Kris minutes. Play him 4-5 minutes each half or if someone is spazzing out and you need some stability like Hiawatha said.
Agreed. He would be fine getting about 8 minutes per game in situations like you describle, but getting 17-20 minutes per game is dumb.
 

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The people who don't think Connor has a significant role on this team are likely the same people who think Uilis should be playing over bohannon. They can't be taken seriously. The problem is these are the beliefs of the majority of the halo b-ball posters.
 

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The people who don't think Connor has a significant role on this team are likely the same people who think Uilis should be playing over bohannon. They can't be taken seriously. The problem is these are the beliefs of the majority of the halo b-ball posters.
Connor has played in all 7 games this year, and 6 of them against terrible competition. Averaging about 18 minutes per game.

He is 2-9 (22%) from the floor. 1-7 (14%) from three. He has more fouls (9) than points (8).

That is just fucking awful and he is a detriment. Those minutes should almost all go to Perkins, Sandfort and Kris.
 

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Really fucking tired of reading here and on TOD again and again how connor "settles the team down". Can someone explain to me wtf that equates to in terms of actual basketball outcomes? Does it mean the team turns the ball over less when hes in??? Do we play slower? Or does it mean some fag who knew connor in high school gets a chub watching him play?
 

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I don’t even think Connor knows what his role is supposed to be. The rest of us sure as hell don’t.
 

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Really fucking tired of reading here and on TOD again and again how connor "settles the team down". Can someone explain to me wtf that equates to in terms of actual basketball outcomes? Does it mean the team turns the ball over less when hes in??? Do we play slower? Or does it mean some fag who knew connor in high school gets a chub watching him play?
Tell 'em, Jim
 

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That was a hell of a win. Several guys stepping up in a tough, road environment. These guys have some big fucking balls-Joe T, Jbo, Murrays, even Flip. So damn impressive hitting big shots after pissing away the big lead.

I think Virginia is going to be pretty good and this win will look even better at the end of the year.
 

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Really fucking tired of reading here and on TOD again and again how connor "settles the team down". Can someone explain to me wtf that equates to in terms of actual basketball outcomes? Does it mean the team turns the ball over less when hes in??? Do we play slower? Or does it mean some fag who knew connor in high school gets a chub watching him play?
If means turns the ball over less, making good post feeds, playing the tempo coach wants them to play, ensuring they get a good shot.
 

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Weird i didnt see him do any of those things last night.
 

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Yeah he played too many minutes last night IMO.

It also appears you never want him on the floor and will refuse to admit he can do anything positive so let’s just leave it at that.
 
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Not sure Virginia missed a single shot in the second half and they still lost. 🔑
That's what happens when the other team absolutely refuses to play defense.
 

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Completely disagree. Rebecca was good and needs to be on the floor. Kris needs to play, but not at the expense of keeping Rebecca off the floor.

The best team for Iowa includes Keegan / Kris / Rebecca on the floor. I would mix them with one of the PG's and bohannon if he is rolling, but if not Perkins or Sandfort.
Absolutely correct.
 

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Yeah he played too many minutes last night IMO.

It also appears you never want him on the floor and will refuse to admit he can do anything positive so let’s just leave it at that.
Connor is a good passer. We have superior options in respect of every other facet of the game, including but not limited to: defense, shooting, ball handling, rebounding, shot blocks.
 

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Fran won’t get better coaching defense, but in previous years he has adjusted minutes played based on performance.
 

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I don't think you guys understand how this works. Actually the defense was good last night and Fran is a good defensive coach because they won, because philosophy reasons.
Something no one said?
 

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I don't think you guys understand how this works. Actually the defense was good last night and Fran is a good defensive coach because they won, because philosophy reasons.
well actually would Jordan have made all those shots if he was trying super hard on D? His legs would have been tired.
 

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I’m just happy both teams had fun. They looked like they were enjoying themselves out there.
 
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