**Official 2022 Iowa Football Season Thread**

[Brad Wesley]

Texas has a shitload of 4/5 star QBs on the roster with Arch Manning coming in next year. Maybe the Iowa staff can make a few calls?

 

[douglasbader]

Seriously, stop it with this shit. Kirk (and Brian for that matter) have won nearly 10 games per year since 2015. Haven't won less than 8 games in a season (not counting the COVID year where they would have won 10 if it was a full season) over that time. They are landing 5* recruits.

Now more than a few people want him fired or to resign? You've lost your fucking minds worse than Kirk has.

 

[Gushawk]

Texas has a shitload of 4/5 star QBs on the roster with Arch Manning coming in next year. Maybe the Iowa staff can make a few calls?

that wouldn’t be sporting. or fair to Spencer during his COVID year after all he’s invested

 

[ivan_drago]

Seriously, stop it with this shit. Kirk (and Brian for that matter) have won nearly 10 games per year since 2015. Haven't won less than 8 games in a season (not counting the COVID year where they would have won 10 if it was a full season) over that time. They are landing 5* recruits.

Now more than a few people want him fired or to resign? You've lost your fucking minds worse than Kirk has.

He's not getting fired and he's not resigning. He just needs to stop being such a FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gushawk]

I’m with you on Kirk, douglas, but we part ways on his son, Brian

 

[douglasbader]

He's not getting fired and he's not resigning. He just needs to stop being such a FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, no shit, so just say that.

 

[douglasbader]

I’m with you on Kirk, douglas, but we part ways on his son, Brian

Yes, that is the key. Brian either has to go, or more likely, take another job at the end of the season.

 

[The Dad]

Texas has a shitload of 4/5 star QBs on the roster with Arch Manning coming in next year. Maybe the Iowa staff can make a few calls?

There will be a ton of them chomping at the bit to come be part of the offensive laughingstock of college football.

 

[douglasbader]

Can I also point out, even with as bad as this is, they still were kicking a FG in the rain to tie that game and go into OT. It isn't like Iowa State blew the out.

 

[The Dad]

Can I also point out, even with as bad as this is, they still were kicking a FG in the rain to tie that game and go into OT. It isn't like Iowa State blew the out.

Because they fucking suck, Doug.

 

[Brad Wesley]

There will be a ton of them chomping at the bit to come be part of the offensive laughingstock of college football.

While the staff is making calls to QBs, mix in a few to some WRs.

 

[fossilhawk]

Brian wants to start Padilla. He's being overruled.

I won't stick up for the playcalling, but it's not like Brian is consistently an idiot. The stats have been kind of shit overall since he took over as OC, but BF's offenses put up 40+ three times in conference/bowl play in 2017 and 2018 and twice in 2019. (The last time a point-scoring stretch like that occurred was 2001-03, as best as I can tell.)

And then 2020 came along and the bottom fell out. Not coincidentally, that was Petras' first year as starter. (Stanley had an ugly tendency to get the yips during key moments of games, but not long ago I realized that if they hadn't burnt his redshirt against NDSU he would have still had eligibility last year thanks to COVID, and imagine the 2020-21 teams with a competent QB, and oh, look, there's the red haze of murderous rage again.)

I really don't think it's Brian, if only for the fact that they've gimped the offense before to shoehorn their preferred starter in (see e.g. 2012 James Vandenberg). Kirk somehow thinks that if he just throws Petras to the wolves one more time it'll click and he'll sling dimes, and after three years it's obvious to everyone else on staff that he won't.

The only other explanation is that somehow starting that moron for three years is part of the deal to get Lainez in the room, which, at this point, cannot be worth it even if the kid is Mahomes 2.0. Cut bait and find literally anyone else. Cy Phillips wasn't this bad, and he got buried by Jason Manson, for fuck's sake.

 

[RazHawk]

For fuck's sake, settle down guys.

Fire Kirk? He should resign?

Lolz. What a bunch of morons. I'm as pissed as anyone but this is just silly.

I'm just asking a question - what's the buyout? I honestly don't know.

We all agree Brian has to go and someone else has to take over on offense, what if Kirk is as stubborn after the season about his OC as he his his QB? After that game Saturday, I couldn't believe anyone would stick by Petras, I was wrong. What if we're all assuming the same about OC and are wrong?

 

[CleteyColgate]

And whose fault is that?

That's my point

 

[CleteyColgate]

I won't stick up for the playcalling, but it's not like Brian is consistently an idiot. The stats have been kind of shit overall since he took over as OC, but BF's offenses put up 40+ three times in conference/bowl play in 2017 and 2018 and twice in 2019. (The last time a point-scoring stretch like that occurred was 2001-03, as best as I can tell.)

And then 2020 came along and the bottom fell out. Not coincidentally, that was Petras' first year as starter. (Stanley had an ugly tendency to get the yips during key moments of games, but not long ago I realized that if they hadn't burnt his redshirt against NDSU he would have still had eligibility last year thanks to COVID, and imagine the 2020-21 teams with a competent QB, and oh, look, there's the red haze of murderous rage again.)

I really don't think it's Brian, if only for the fact that they've gimped the offense before to shoehorn their preferred starter in (see e.g. 2012 James Vandenberg). Kirk somehow thinks that if he just throws Petras to the wolves one more time it'll click and he'll sling dimes, and after three years it's obvious to everyone else on staff that he won't.

The only other explanation is that somehow starting that moron for three years is part of the deal to get Lainez in the room, which, at this point, cannot be worth it even if the kid is Mahomes 2.0. Cut bait and find literally anyone else. Cy Phillips wasn't this bad, and he got buried by Jason Manson, for fuck's sake.

Brian = regression

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Padilla must warm up with ear buds in listening to rap music.

 

[RecreationalGynecologist]

While the staff is making calls to QBs, mix in a few to some WRs.

We need to recruit at least two WRs a year. There’s no excuse for our current depth chart at the position.

 

[Gushawk]

I’m not at all convinced the program/administration can successfully navigate a Brian exit after the season.

That’s why a guy like Wade is hedging so hard on his sucking despite his performance. Gotta be in a position to try to justify his retention.

 

[newsbreaker]

Kirk isn’t leaving or getting fired. In college football 2022, however, the distance from 10 wins to compete program-wide rebuild is 1/10th the distance it’s ever been before.

 

[Whatever]

I won't stick up for the playcalling, but it's not like Brian is consistently an idiot. The stats have been kind of shit overall since he took over as OC, but BF's offenses put up 40+ three times in conference/bowl play in 2017 and 2018 and twice in 2019. (The last time a point-scoring stretch like that occurred was 2001-03, as best as I can tell.)

And then 2020 came along and the bottom fell out. Not coincidentally, that was Petras' first year as starter. (Stanley had an ugly tendency to get the yips during key moments of games, but not long ago I realized that if they hadn't burnt his redshirt against NDSU he would have still had eligibility last year thanks to COVID, and imagine the 2020-21 teams with a competent QB, and oh, look, there's the red haze of murderous rage again.)

I really don't think it's Brian, if only for the fact that they've gimped the offense before to shoehorn their preferred starter in (see e.g. 2012 James Vandenberg). Kirk somehow thinks that if he just throws Petras to the wolves one more time it'll click and he'll sling dimes, and after three years it's obvious to everyone else on staff that he won't.

The only other explanation is that somehow starting that moron for three years is part of the deal to get Lainez in the room, which, at this point, cannot be worth it even if the kid is Mahomes 2.0. Cut bait and find literally anyone else. Cy Phillips wasn't this bad, and he got buried by Jason Manson, for fuck's sake.

2020 is the highest scoring offense Brian has had.

 

[thrawn]

It's because they don't know shit about the QB position. Maybe instead of handing the QB job over to Brian, they should have, I dunno, hired an actual QB fucking coach. Would have been a good start.

I wonder how many attractive QB coach candidates would take the job without being OC. That’s a pretty common combination. Unfortunately, Iowa looked at it and decided to make the combination from the top instead of vice versa.

 

[Westside Ray Ray]

No it’s not.

Lol

 

[RazHawk]

I won't stick up for the playcalling, but it's not like Brian is consistently an idiot. The stats have been kind of shit overall since he took over as OC, but BF's offenses put up 40+ three times in conference/bowl play in 2017 and 2018 and twice in 2019. (The last time a point-scoring stretch like that occurred was 2001-03, as best as I can tell.)

And then 2020 came along and the bottom fell out. Not coincidentally, that was Petras' first year as starter. (Stanley had an ugly tendency to get the yips during key moments of games, but not long ago I realized that if they hadn't burnt his redshirt against NDSU he would have still had eligibility last year thanks to COVID, and imagine the 2020-21 teams with a competent QB, and oh, look, there's the red haze of murderous rage again.)

I really don't think it's Brian, if only for the fact that they've gimped the offense before to shoehorn their preferred starter in (see e.g. 2012 James Vandenberg). Kirk somehow thinks that if he just throws Petras to the wolves one more time it'll click and he'll sling dimes, and after three years it's obvious to everyone else on staff that he won't.

The only other explanation is that somehow starting that moron for three years is part of the deal to get Lainez in the room, which, at this point, cannot be worth it even if the kid is Mahomes 2.0. Cut bait and find literally anyone else. Cy Phillips wasn't this bad, and he got buried by Jason Manson, for fuck's sake.

I had to go back and look at that 2012 team because I remembered them being so bad at 4-8.
In that 2012 ISU/IA game that was 9-6, Iowa had 304 yards of offense. It's almost unfathomable how bad this offense is.. The 2012 team that went 4-8 averaged 310 yards of offense on the season.

 

[06 Outback Offg Crew]

Seriously, stop it with this shit. Kirk (and Brian for that matter) have won nearly 10 games per year since 2015. Haven't won less than 8 games in a season (not counting the COVID year where they would have won 10 if it was a full season) over that time. They are landing 5* recruits.

Now more than a few people want him fired or to resign? You've lost your fucking minds worse than Kirk has.

In a sane organization blinding, sustained incompetence is not a luxury.

 

[RazHawk]

Kirk isn’t leaving or getting fired. In college football 2022, however, the distance from 10 wins to compete program-wide rebuild is 1/10th the distance it’s ever been before.

Would you feel the same way if there is no change at offensive coordinator after the season?

 

[douglasbader]

In a sane organization blinding, sustained incompetence is not a luxury.

Eat shit you fucking piece of shit n00b. Don't ever respond to a post of mine again without messaging me first to ask permission.

Now go get fucked.

 

[Westside Ray Ray]

The dumpster fire and drama that the remainder of this fall is trending towards is going to be far more entertaining to watch than whatever the first two games of the year were.

 

[HawkBall23]

I’d be on the verge of committing murder if I were Phil Parker.

KF can't share the actual answer because "they were incredulous and told me to go fuck myself, but I'm sticking with my guy anyways" isn't family friendly.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

@MikeyJoe close the floodgates

 

[newsbreaker]

Would you feel the same way if there is no change at offensive coordinator after the season?

I think there is a chance we’re fucked. Kirk isn't getting fired, not after one bad year. History tells you he’ll figure it out, but his kid has never been the problem.

There is a chance you’re stuck with this, and every good player you have leaves. You’re re-recruiting your kids every year. You can’t sustain this for long. The kids are in charge now.

The lone bright spot right now is the fact the kids are all saying every team-focused, but that’s less likely if you’re sitting on three wins in November.

 

[nikolausp]

Kirk today:

"We're not trying to drive this train off the road by any stretch. It's not an intentional derailment. "

 

[ivan_drago]

Trains don't go on roads, Kirk.

 

[fossilhawk]

Would you feel the same way if there is no change at offensive coordinator after the season?

To be honest, I'm more interested in what the offense looks with a not-Petras on the field, BF or no.

I had hope for Petras after 2020, but in the last ten games we're 5-5 and he's gotten worse as it's gone along. Spencer Petras is killing this team and it's time to cut bait on him at least.

Again, picture what 2020-21 could have been with Stanley at the reins; that's an alternate reality in which there's a lot less chatter about Brian's job performance. Petras can't quarterback himself out of a wet paper sack, and at least Padilla isn't a statue.

 

[Saul Berkley]

Yes, that is the key. Brian either has to go, or more likely, take another job at the end of the season.

1 - Brian isn't going anywhere
2 - If he did, how would that fix things?

 

[RazHawk]

Brian is the QB coach and Offensive Coordinator, the passing game is a total and complete dumpster fire, both from a scheme and talent standpoint.

If this offense averages 200 yards per game for the season, there is no universe where someome should not be fired.

I mean Kirk made KOK move along after 2011 once it had gotten a little stale. Those days were the glory days of Iowa offense vs what we're seeing today.

I agree this is mostly a Kirk problem, but it's never been this bad, and if it's this bad all year, how do you sell any hope to recruits or fans going into 2023 if your message is "Yeah, Spencer is the best guy we have, which means QB play will be dogshit next year too!"

 

[CleteyColgate]

1 - Brian isn't going anywhere
2 - If he did, how would that fix things?

Like changing quarterback

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

I’m not at all convinced the program/administration can successfully navigate a Brian exit after the season.

That’s why a guy like Wade is hedging so hard on his sucking despite his performance. Gotta be in a position to try to justify his retention.

I am not convinced that removing Brian would make Kirk good at math and personnel decisions.

 

[Renegade_ofFunk]

To be honest, I'm more interested in what the offense looks with a not-Petras on the field, BF or no.

I had hope for Petras after 2020, but in the last ten games we're 5-5 and he's gotten worse as it's gone along. Spencer Petras is killing this team and it's time to cut bait on him at least.

Again, picture what 2020-21 could have been with Stanley at the reins; that's an alternate reality in which there's a lot less chatter about Brian's job performance. Petras can't quarterback himself out of a wet paper sack, and at least Padilla isn't a statue.

2020 was so weird.

Some of Petras issues were apparent in the first start. The happy feet, being uncomfortable in the pocket etc. I think most reasonable people chalked it up to him not having spring ball and a weird Covid season. Everything was off schedule.

But after fumbling away the Purdue game and Brian throwing the ball 372 times against NW for some reason, the offense put up some points in games, then Iowa beat Wisconsin pretty convincingly. It wasn’t unreasonable to assume things would continue into next season and be a bit better. Sure, we lost ISM but it wasn’t like he was Tyreek Hill or something, we had guys coming in, etc.

I don’t think anyone thought it would get this bad. The post 2021 Penn St euphoria turned to this pretty quick in the grand scheme of things.

 

[wondergrape]

I'm just asking a question - what's the buyout? I honestly don't know.

We all agree Brian has to go and someone else has to take over on offense, what if Kirk is as stubborn after the season about his OC as he his his QB? After that game Saturday, I couldn't believe anyone would stick by Petras, I was wrong. What if we're all assuming the same about OC and are wrong?

Nobody knows because Kirk Ferentz's buyout couldn't be less relevant.

 

[rodg12]

2020 was so weird.

Some of Petras issues were apparent in the first start. The happy feet, being uncomfortable in the pocket etc. I think most reasonable people chalked it up to him not having spring ball and a weird Covid season. Everything was off schedule.

But after fumbling away the Purdue game and Brian throwing the ball 372 times against NW for some reason, the offense put up some points in games, then Iowa beat Wisconsin pretty convincingly. It wasn’t unreasonable to assume things would continue into next season and be a bit better. Sure, we lost ISM but it wasn’t like he was Tyreek Hill or something, we had guys coming in, etc.

I don’t think anyone thought it would get this bad. The post 2021 Penn St euphoria turned to this pretty quick in the grand scheme of things.

We were ranked second in the nation. And now we've fallen to this. Fucking pathetic.

 

[CamelTones]

The 2020 Wisconsin game was an absolute punt fest snoozer until Petras completed a long throw to ISM. From that point iowa dominated. Up until then it was a bunch of 3 and outs.

 

[The Full Monte]

watching Kirk unable to bench the worst QB in the country makes a discussion about him letting his own son go seem awfully funny

 

[Uli Kunkel]

To be fair, anyone who thought last year's team, even immediately after Penn State, was anything close to resembling a #2 team were huffing paint thinner.

 

[Stu Beagle]

To be fair, anyone who thought last year's team, even immediately after Penn State, was anything close to resembling a #2 team were huffing paint thinner.

Well yeah they’re not power rankings dipshit

 

[Debit One]

Kirk today:

"We're not trying to drive this train off the road by any stretch. It's not an intentional derailment. "

The fact that a coach feels the need to say that is quite something.

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

The fact that a coach feels the need to say that is quite something.

Accidental derailment. Not on purpose.

 

[Mr. Hawk]

Kirk today:

"We're not trying to drive this train off the road by any stretch. It's not an intentional derailment. "

I refuse to believe that this is an accurate quote. No way.

 

[CamelTones]

Basically Kirks argument is the receivers are all injured so he can’t fairly evaluate Petras. What he fails to realize is he could have played Padilla at least a couple series against the same opponents with the same receivers and seen what that looked like in a game.

Instead they accidentally derailed the train.

 

[RazHawk]

In case anyone was interested, it looks like it's almost $50M, Garta is a fucking idiot.

College football world reacts to insane Kirk Ferentz buyout

If Iowa were ever to fire head football coach Kirk Ferentz, they would owe him an awful lot of money thanks to his buyout.

thecomeback.com

Nebbie just paid $15M to fire Frost for comparison.

 

[CamelTones]

I refuse to believe that this is an accurate quote. No way.

It was.