**Official 2022 Iowa Football Season Thread**

[RecreationalGynecologist]

The biggest takeaway from watching that was how much more energy the skill guys have with Padilla in. They, especially LaPorta, look like they’re simply going through the motions with Spencer. Apathy it seems, isn’t exclusive to fans

That Northwestern game was terrible.

 

[Herky823]

And just think, I was actually contemplating driving up for this massacre.

Don’t want your tickets though. Gonna get Kin-nick Edge seats. May as well sit in comfort for this debacle.

I said this before but through some luck I got box seats at an LSU game. Call me crazy but it’s a fun way to watch a game.

 

[CleteyColgate]

I wish Aidan Hutchinson still played for Michigan so he could hulk smash Spencer

You need to cheer for Rutgers to win first.

#Halo

 

[CleteyColgate]

The biggest takeaway from watching that was how much more energy the skill guys have with Padilla in. They, especially LaPorta, look like they’re simply going through the motions with Spencer. Apathy it seems, isn’t exclusive to fans

Northwestern was 3-9 last year.

Build a statue for Padilla.

 

[brantshawks]

I just want a Cletey statue at this point.

 

[cloudhawk]

That Northwestern game was terrible.

Now imagine the QB was Petras

 

[cloudhawk]

Northwestern was 3-9 last year.

Build a statue for Padilla.

Just take your L

 

[RecreationalGynecologist]

Now imagine the QB was Petras

He did start the game. It turned into a shit show once the LT went down. Our OL was dogshit last year, and it’s worse this year.

 

[Mountain Hawk]

I think the only possible path to a competitive game vs Michigan involves a night game.

With the lights out.

 

[Mountain Hawk]

"We're at the side door to Hell."

 

[KitKatApples]

I just want a Cletey statue at this point.

And I want it to fall over on him

 

[CleteyColgate]

Now imagine the QB was Petras

Then you have last Saturday's game

 

[Uff Da]

I’ll wait for some snorts on Tuesday before issuing my final judgment.

Ferentz is not trying to intentionally derail things, he stated so last week

 

[cloudhawk]

Then you have last Saturday's game

Wat? You are terrible at this

 

[cloudhawk]

He did start the game. It turned into a shit show once the LT went down. Our OL was dogshit last year, and it’s worse this year.

He couldn't throw....it was a joke about his terribleness- Im not really sure what this has to do with Padilla making nice throws. He has proven to not being a 10 int machine if he got a chance to play as dipshit Clete is trying to say.

 

[RecreationalGynecologist]

He couldn't throw....it was a joke about his terribleness- Im not really sure what this has to do with Padilla making nice throws. He has proven to not being a 10 int machine if he got a chance to play as dipshit Clete is trying to say.

Padilla made a great throw to Johnson in his first possession I believe. It just felt like they went turtle in the 2nd half. Anyways, carry on

 

[Westside Ray Ray]

Northwestern was 3-9 last year.

Build a statue for Padilla.

Better hope the west is as dogshit pathetic as it appears it may be and the defense carries the entire load, otherwise we’re a 3-9 team with Spence at the helm of the DFL offense in all of CFB.

 

[Stu Beagle]

 

[TheOwl]

He's not wrong.

 

[ChipHilton]

Someone will say "You need to get a life" (only with several swear words), but I researched Iowa's worst total offense numbers since 1965 (post single platoon ball). Perhaps not the perfect metric Halo experts demand, blah-blah-blah, but one could mark this to see where this season's squad might ultimately fit into the bottom 10. Week 3's explosions places 2023 just out of 2nd at 217.7. They'll need to average just over 300 the rest of the way to better 1970. (Fuck you, I'm a historical perspective tard.)

1- 1965- Passing- 124.1 Rushing- 84.8 Total- 208.9
2- 1971- Passing- 135.9 Rushing- 81.5 Total- 217.3
3- 1978- Passing- 98.5 Rushing- 124.4 Total- 222.7
4- 1972- Passing- 75.0 Rushing- 148.1 Total- 223.1
5- 1973- Passing- 102.4 Rushing- 145.4 Total- 247.6
6- 1977- Passing- 116.0 Rushing- 142.0 Total- 258.0
7- 1966- Passing- 121.0 Rushing- 138.5 Total-259.5
8- 1998- Passing- 185.9 Rushing- 80.9 Total- 266.8
9- 1975- Passing- 54.3 Rushing- 218.7 Total- 273.0
10- 1970 Passing- 86.0 Rushing- 193.5- Total- 279.5

Btw, Top 10, with no breakdown or decimal points:

1- 1983- 488
2- 1985- 464
3- 1968- 440
4- 1987- 438
5- 2005- 432
6- 1990- 429
7- 2002- 424
8- 1969- 424
9- 1997- 423
10- 1995- 417

The 400 mark has been crossed once (400.1) since 2005, in 2014. Next best was 2015, at 386.

 

[The Dad]

Someone will say "You need to get a life" (only with several swear words), but I researched Iowa's worst total offense numbers since 1965 (post single platoon ball). Perhaps not the perfect metric Halo experts demand, blah-blah-blah, but one could mark this to see where this season's squad might ultimately fit into the bottom 10. Week 3's explosions places 2023 just out of 2nd at 217.7. They'll need to average just over 300 the rest of the way to better 1970. (Fuck you, I'm a historical perspective tard.)

1- 1965- Passing- 124.1 Rushing- 84.8 Total- 208.9
2- 1971- Passing- 135.9 Rushing- 81.5 Total- 217.3
3- 1978- Passing- 98.5 Rushing- 124.4 Total- 222.7
4- 1972- Passing- 75.0 Rushing- 148.1 Total- 223.1
5- 1973- Passing- 102.4 Rushing- 145.4 Total- 247.6
6- 1977- Passing- 116.0 Rushing- 142.0 Total- 258.0
7- 1966- Passing- 121.0 Rushing- 138.5 Total-259.5
8- 1998- Passing- 185.9 Rushing- 80.9 Total- 266.8
9- 1975- Passing- 54.3 Rushing- 218.7 Total- 273.0
10- 1970 Passing- 86.0 Rushing- 193.5- Total- 279.5

Btw, Top 10, with no breakdown or decimal points:

1- 1983- 488
2- 1985- 464
3- 1968- 440
4- 1987- 438
5- 2005- 432
6- 1990- 429
7- 2002- 424
8- 1969- 424
9- 1997- 423
10- 1995- 417

The 400 mark has been crossed once (400.1) since 2005, in 2014. Next best was 2015, at 386.

Kirk when seeing those 2002 and 2005 numbers.

 

[rodg12]

 

[The Dad]

 

[KitKatApples]

Yea? Why put them through that?

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Not sure

 

[KitKatApples]

I believe you

 

[cloudhawk]

Yea? Why put them through that?

They don't want to wait another 2 seasons for a chance to improve?

 

[KitKatApples]

Oh

 

[Fletch]

Someone will say "You need to get a life" (only with several swear words), but I researched Iowa's worst total offense numbers since 1965 (post single platoon ball). Perhaps not the perfect metric Halo experts demand, blah-blah-blah, but one could mark this to see where this season's squad might ultimately fit into the bottom 10. Week 3's explosions places 2023 just out of 2nd at 217.7. They'll need to average just over 300 the rest of the way to better 1970. (Fuck you, I'm a historical perspective tard.)

1- 1965- Passing- 124.1 Rushing- 84.8 Total- 208.9
2- 1971- Passing- 135.9 Rushing- 81.5 Total- 217.3
3- 1978- Passing- 98.5 Rushing- 124.4 Total- 222.7
4- 1972- Passing- 75.0 Rushing- 148.1 Total- 223.1
5- 1973- Passing- 102.4 Rushing- 145.4 Total- 247.6
6- 1977- Passing- 116.0 Rushing- 142.0 Total- 258.0
7- 1966- Passing- 121.0 Rushing- 138.5 Total-259.5
8- 1998- Passing- 185.9 Rushing- 80.9 Total- 266.8
9- 1975- Passing- 54.3 Rushing- 218.7 Total- 273.0
10- 1970 Passing- 86.0 Rushing- 193.5- Total- 279.5

Btw, Top 10, with no breakdown or decimal points:

1- 1983- 488
2- 1985- 464
3- 1968- 440
4- 1987- 438
5- 2005- 432
6- 1990- 429
7- 2002- 424
8- 1969- 424
9- 1997- 423
10- 1995- 417

The 400 mark has been crossed once (400.1) since 2005, in 2014. Next best was 2015, at 386.

I swear to everything holy, if we have to endure this next year….

 

[WCFHawkeye]

Someone will say "You need to get a life" (only with several swear words), but I researched Iowa's worst total offense numbers since 1965 (post single platoon ball). Perhaps not the perfect metric Halo experts demand, blah-blah-blah, but one could mark this to see where this season's squad might ultimately fit into the bottom 10. Week 3's explosions places 2023 just out of 2nd at 217.7. They'll need to average just over 300 the rest of the way to better 1970. (Fuck you, I'm a historical perspective tard.)

1- 1965- Passing- 124.1 Rushing- 84.8 Total- 208.9
2- 1971- Passing- 135.9 Rushing- 81.5 Total- 217.3
3- 1978- Passing- 98.5 Rushing- 124.4 Total- 222.7
4- 1972- Passing- 75.0 Rushing- 148.1 Total- 223.1
5- 1973- Passing- 102.4 Rushing- 145.4 Total- 247.6
6- 1977- Passing- 116.0 Rushing- 142.0 Total- 258.0
7- 1966- Passing- 121.0 Rushing- 138.5 Total-259.5
8- 1998- Passing- 185.9 Rushing- 80.9 Total- 266.8
9- 1975- Passing- 54.3 Rushing- 218.7 Total- 273.0
10- 1970 Passing- 86.0 Rushing- 193.5- Total- 279.5

Btw, Top 10, with no breakdown or decimal points:

1- 1983- 488
2- 1985- 464
3- 1968- 440
4- 1987- 438
5- 2005- 432
6- 1990- 429
7- 2002- 424
8- 1969- 424
9- 1997- 423
10- 1995- 417

The 400 mark has been crossed once (400.1) since 2005, in 2014. Next best was 2015, at 386.

On the list of 10 worst years:

1965
1966
1970
1971
1972
1973
1975
1977

What the hell happened in 1968 and 1969 to be in the top 10 of best years, and why did they drop back off so fast? I should probably know, but I don't.

Also, why were they no better than 5-5 both of those years?

TIA.

 

[ChipHilton]

On the list of 10 worst years:

1965
1966
1970
1971
1972
1973
1975
1977

What the hell happened in 1968 and 1969 to be in the top 10 of best years, and why did they drop back off so fast? I should probably know, but I don't.

Also, why were they no better than 5-5 both of those years?

TIA.

1- Jimmies and Joes
2- Bad defenses

They had what was a good-to-great recruiting class in 1967, which I think narrowly lost to Ohio State's legendary class of that year and won its other games. I have this vague memory of hearing updates on this "exciting freshman class" on the radio or maybe Nagel's TV show. It was led by quarterback Larry Lawrence, a highly rated Pennsylvania running back named Dennis Green, exciting wingback Kerry Reardon out of KC, Texas TE Ray Manning. The '66 and '68 classes had some good players, too. Green got off to a great start as a soph, but had an injury (broken ankle?) that he never recovered from. (No Doyle) He ended up as a slow wingback by 1970, 20 pounds heavier. The only good thing about his injury was Nagel making Lawrence the starting QB and moving a poor passing QB named Podolak to running back. (They pissed away a game or two by delaying the move, even after Lawrence came off the bench to lead a come from behind win over #8 Oregon State in the opener.)

Fans were giddy after the '68 season, with most of the team returning, and then it all fell apart. First came the black boycott in the spring. A year later, a feud between Nagel and Evy resulted in Lawrence and an excellent fullback named Tom Smith leaving. Jerry Moses of Waterloo East, maybe the top running back recruit in the country, chose Iowa State, which was symbolic of the wreckage. Lawrence never played for Miami, where he and Smith were headed for, and played in Canada for a couple of years, left football and then became a backup for the Raiders in '74-75 and the Bucs in '76.

Nagel's teams also seemed to have way of not showing up consistently. In '68's defense, a young team had losses to #5 Notre Dame, #7 Purdue, #2 Ohio State and defending Big 10 champ Indiana.

This has good stuff about the disasters of '69 and '70.

Ray Nagel - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Other trivia:

CR Jefferson and Waterloo East were the football kings of the day. Lawrence played there (his dad coached there and came to Iowa with Larry as freshman coach) and classmate Layne McDowell was a highly regard DT who came to Iowa with Lawrence. Jon Meskimen was a very good OG in the class ahead. Doug Lane was the top high school shot putter in the country who went to USC to throw. When Lawrence was a senior, they won the "mythical" title in football and Lawrence started at guard on a really outstanding state baskeball championship team. After that, future Commings OC Howard Vernon led East to something like 4 consecutive undefeated seasons with players like Moses and an unstoppable Wing T.

Evy didn't think much of Nagel's coaching acumen, but reasoned that he could be an impressive recruiter and that a good staff could do the coaching. They did have some coaches who had long careers, most famously Wayne Fontes of Lions fame. Nagel unfortunately fired Evy loyalist and outstanding OL coach Gary Grouwinkel, who went on to have a long and illustrious career as a Chicago area high school coach.

Players who became coaches were Green, Rich Solomon, a Commings assistant and long time Green assistant, and Podolak's brother-in-law Tom Hayes, who had a long career at Iowa, UCLA (DC under Donahue), the Redskins, Saints and Kansas State (DC in Snyder's second term).

Thus concludes this exciting episode of "Grandpa talks about the old days".

 

[sobrien51]

1- Jimmies and Joes
2- Bad defenses

They had what was a good-to-great recruiting class in 1967, which I think narrowly lost to Ohio State's legendary class of that year and won its other games. I have this vague memory of hearing updates on this "exciting freshman class" on the radio or maybe Nagel's TV show. It was led by quarterback Larry Lawrence, a highly rated Pennsylvania running back named Dennis Green, exciting wingback Kerry Reardon out of KC, Texas TE Ray Manning. The '66 and '68 classes had some good players, too. Green got off to a great start as a soph, but had an injury (broken ankle?) that he never recovered from. (No Doyle) He ended up as a slow wingback by 1970, 20 pounds heavier. The only good thing about his injury was Nagel making Lawrence the starting QB and moving a poor passing QB named Podolak to running back. (They pissed away a game or two by delaying the move, even after Lawrence came off the bench to lead a come from behind win over #8 Oregon State in the opener.)

Fans were giddy after the '68 season, with most of the team returning, and then it all fell apart. First came the black boycott in the spring. A year later, a feud between Nagel and Evy resulted in Lawrence and an excellent fullback named Tom Smith leaving. Jerry Moses of Waterloo East, maybe the top running back recruit in the country, chose Iowa State, which was symbolic of the wreckage. Lawrence never played for Miami, where he and Smith were headed for, and played in Canada for a couple of years, left football and then became a backup for the Raiders in '74-75 and the Bucs in '76.

Nagel's teams also seemed to have way of not showing up consistently. In '68's defense, a young team had losses to #5 Notre Dame, #7 Purdue, #2 Ohio State and defending Big 10 champ Indiana.

This has good stuff about the disasters of '69 and '70.

Ray Nagel - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Other trivia:

CR Jefferson and Waterloo East were the football kings of the day. Lawrence played there (his dad coached there and came to Iowa with Larry as freshman coach) and classmate Layne McDowell was a highly regard DT who came to Iowa with Lawrence. Jon Meskimen was a very good OG in the class ahead. Doug Lane was the top high school shot putter in the country who went to USC to throw. When Lawrence was a senior, they won the "mythical" title in football and Lawrence started at guard on a really outstanding state baskeball championship team. After that, future Commings OC Howard Vernon led East to something like 4 consecutive undefeated seasons with players like Moses and an unstoppable Wing T.

Evy didn't think much of Nagel's coaching acumen, but reasoned that he could be an impressive recruiter and that a good staff could do the coaching. They did have some coaches who had long careers, most famously Wayne Fontes of Lions fame. Nagel unfortunately fired Evy loyalist and outstanding OL coach Gary Grouwinkel, who went on to have a long and illustrious career as a Chicago area high school coach.

Players who became coaches were Green, Rich Solomon, a Commings assistant and long time Green assistant, and Podolak's brother-in-law Tom Hayes, who had a long career at Iowa, UCLA (DC under Donahue), the Redskins, Saints and Kansas State (DC in Snyder's second term).

Thus concludes this exciting episode of "Grandpa talks about the old days".

What in the Fuck did I just read?

 

[ChipHilton]

What in the Fuck did I just read?

The Antiquities?

 

[sobrien51]

The Antiquities?

Oh.

 

[thrawn]

I love when @ChipHilton digs out the parchment to recap some Iowa football history.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

What in the Fuck did I just read?

magic.

 

[brantshawks]

What in the Fuck did I just read?

The truth, son.

 

[ChipHilton]

I love when @ChipHilton digs out the parchment to recap some Iowa football history.

 

[hawkeyealum]

1- Jimmies and Joes
2- Bad defenses

They had what was a good-to-great recruiting class in 1967, which I think narrowly lost to Ohio State's legendary class of that year and won its other games. I have this vague memory of hearing updates on this "exciting freshman class" on the radio or maybe Nagel's TV show. It was led by quarterback Larry Lawrence, a highly rated Pennsylvania running back named Dennis Green, exciting wingback Kerry Reardon out of KC, Texas TE Ray Manning. The '66 and '68 classes had some good players, too. Green got off to a great start as a soph, but had an injury (broken ankle?) that he never recovered from. (No Doyle) He ended up as a slow wingback by 1970, 20 pounds heavier. The only good thing about his injury was Nagel making Lawrence the starting QB and moving a poor passing QB named Podolak to running back. (They pissed away a game or two by delaying the move, even after Lawrence came off the bench to lead a come from behind win over #8 Oregon State in the opener.)

Fans were giddy after the '68 season, with most of the team returning, and then it all fell apart. First came the black boycott in the spring. A year later, a feud between Nagel and Evy resulted in Lawrence and an excellent fullback named Tom Smith leaving. Jerry Moses of Waterloo East, maybe the top running back recruit in the country, chose Iowa State, which was symbolic of the wreckage. Lawrence never played for Miami, where he and Smith were headed for, and played in Canada for a couple of years, left football and then became a backup for the Raiders in '74-75 and the Bucs in '76.

Nagel's teams also seemed to have way of not showing up consistently. In '68's defense, a young team had losses to #5 Notre Dame, #7 Purdue, #2 Ohio State and defending Big 10 champ Indiana.

This has good stuff about the disasters of '69 and '70.

Ray Nagel - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Other trivia:

CR Jefferson and Waterloo East were the football kings of the day. Lawrence played there (his dad coached there and came to Iowa with Larry as freshman coach) and classmate Layne McDowell was a highly regard DT who came to Iowa with Lawrence. Jon Meskimen was a very good OG in the class ahead. Doug Lane was the top high school shot putter in the country who went to USC to throw. When Lawrence was a senior, they won the "mythical" title in football and Lawrence started at guard on a really outstanding state baskeball championship team. After that, future Commings OC Howard Vernon led East to something like 4 consecutive undefeated seasons with players like Moses and an unstoppable Wing T.

Evy didn't think much of Nagel's coaching acumen, but reasoned that he could be an impressive recruiter and that a good staff could do the coaching. They did have some coaches who had long careers, most famously Wayne Fontes of Lions fame. Nagel unfortunately fired Evy loyalist and outstanding OL coach Gary Grouwinkel, who went on to have a long and illustrious career as a Chicago area high school coach.

Players who became coaches were Green, Rich Solomon, a Commings assistant and long time Green assistant, and Podolak's brother-in-law Tom Hayes, who had a long career at Iowa, UCLA (DC under Donahue), the Redskins, Saints and Kansas State (DC in Snyder's second term).

Thus concludes this exciting episode of "Grandpa talks about the old days".

I’m fully erect. Thank you for your service

 

[BluesHawk]

1- Jimmies and Joes
2- Bad defenses

They had what was a good-to-great recruiting class in 1967, which I think narrowly lost to Ohio State's legendary class of that year and won its other games. I have this vague memory of hearing updates on this "exciting freshman class" on the radio or maybe Nagel's TV show. It was led by quarterback Larry Lawrence, a highly rated Pennsylvania running back named Dennis Green, exciting wingback Kerry Reardon out of KC, Texas TE Ray Manning. The '66 and '68 classes had some good players, too. Green got off to a great start as a soph, but had an injury (broken ankle?) that he never recovered from. (No Doyle) He ended up as a slow wingback by 1970, 20 pounds heavier. The only good thing about his injury was Nagel making Lawrence the starting QB and moving a poor passing QB named Podolak to running back. (They pissed away a game or two by delaying the move, even after Lawrence came off the bench to lead a come from behind win over #8 Oregon State in the opener.)

Fans were giddy after the '68 season, with most of the team returning, and then it all fell apart. First came the black boycott in the spring. A year later, a feud between Nagel and Evy resulted in Lawrence and an excellent fullback named Tom Smith leaving. Jerry Moses of Waterloo East, maybe the top running back recruit in the country, chose Iowa State, which was symbolic of the wreckage. Lawrence never played for Miami, where he and Smith were headed for, and played in Canada for a couple of years, left football and then became a backup for the Raiders in '74-75 and the Bucs in '76.

Nagel's teams also seemed to have way of not showing up consistently. In '68's defense, a young team had losses to #5 Notre Dame, #7 Purdue, #2 Ohio State and defending Big 10 champ Indiana.

This has good stuff about the disasters of '69 and '70.

Ray Nagel - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Other trivia:

CR Jefferson and Waterloo East were the football kings of the day. Lawrence played there (his dad coached there and came to Iowa with Larry as freshman coach) and classmate Layne McDowell was a highly regard DT who came to Iowa with Lawrence. Jon Meskimen was a very good OG in the class ahead. Doug Lane was the top high school shot putter in the country who went to USC to throw. When Lawrence was a senior, they won the "mythical" title in football and Lawrence started at guard on a really outstanding state baskeball championship team. After that, future Commings OC Howard Vernon led East to something like 4 consecutive undefeated seasons with players like Moses and an unstoppable Wing T.

Evy didn't think much of Nagel's coaching acumen, but reasoned that he could be an impressive recruiter and that a good staff could do the coaching. They did have some coaches who had long careers, most famously Wayne Fontes of Lions fame. Nagel unfortunately fired Evy loyalist and outstanding OL coach Gary Grouwinkel, who went on to have a long and illustrious career as a Chicago area high school coach.

Players who became coaches were Green, Rich Solomon, a Commings assistant and long time Green assistant, and Podolak's brother-in-law Tom Hayes, who had a long career at Iowa, UCLA (DC under Donahue), the Redskins, Saints and Kansas State (DC in Snyder's second term).

Thus concludes this exciting episode of "Grandpa talks about the old days".

 

[BBK]

1- Jimmies and Joes
2- Bad defenses

They had what was a good-to-great recruiting class in 1967, which I think narrowly lost to Ohio State's legendary class of that year and won its other games. I have this vague memory of hearing updates on this "exciting freshman class" on the radio or maybe Nagel's TV show. It was led by quarterback Larry Lawrence, a highly rated Pennsylvania running back named Dennis Green, exciting wingback Kerry Reardon out of KC, Texas TE Ray Manning. The '66 and '68 classes had some good players, too. Green got off to a great start as a soph, but had an injury (broken ankle?) that he never recovered from. (No Doyle) He ended up as a slow wingback by 1970, 20 pounds heavier. The only good thing about his injury was Nagel making Lawrence the starting QB and moving a poor passing QB named Podolak to running back. (They pissed away a game or two by delaying the move, even after Lawrence came off the bench to lead a come from behind win over #8 Oregon State in the opener.)

Fans were giddy after the '68 season, with most of the team returning, and then it all fell apart. First came the black boycott in the spring. A year later, a feud between Nagel and Evy resulted in Lawrence and an excellent fullback named Tom Smith leaving. Jerry Moses of Waterloo East, maybe the top running back recruit in the country, chose Iowa State, which was symbolic of the wreckage. Lawrence never played for Miami, where he and Smith were headed for, and played in Canada for a couple of years, left football and then became a backup for the Raiders in '74-75 and the Bucs in '76.

Nagel's teams also seemed to have way of not showing up consistently. In '68's defense, a young team had losses to #5 Notre Dame, #7 Purdue, #2 Ohio State and defending Big 10 champ Indiana.

This has good stuff about the disasters of '69 and '70.

Ray Nagel - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Other trivia:

CR Jefferson and Waterloo East were the football kings of the day. Lawrence played there (his dad coached there and came to Iowa with Larry as freshman coach) and classmate Layne McDowell was a highly regard DT who came to Iowa with Lawrence. Jon Meskimen was a very good OG in the class ahead. Doug Lane was the top high school shot putter in the country who went to USC to throw. When Lawrence was a senior, they won the "mythical" title in football and Lawrence started at guard on a really outstanding state baskeball championship team. After that, future Commings OC Howard Vernon led East to something like 4 consecutive undefeated seasons with players like Moses and an unstoppable Wing T.

Evy didn't think much of Nagel's coaching acumen, but reasoned that he could be an impressive recruiter and that a good staff could do the coaching. They did have some coaches who had long careers, most famously Wayne Fontes of Lions fame. Nagel unfortunately fired Evy loyalist and outstanding OL coach Gary Grouwinkel, who went on to have a long and illustrious career as a Chicago area high school coach.

Players who became coaches were Green, Rich Solomon, a Commings assistant and long time Green assistant, and Podolak's brother-in-law Tom Hayes, who had a long career at Iowa, UCLA (DC under Donahue), the Redskins, Saints and Kansas State (DC in Snyder's second term).

Thus concludes this exciting episode of "Grandpa talks about the old days".

 

[jandj]

1- Jimmies and Joes
2- Bad defenses

They had what was a good-to-great recruiting class in 1967, which I think narrowly lost to Ohio State's legendary class of that year and won its other games. I have this vague memory of hearing updates on this "exciting freshman class" on the radio or maybe Nagel's TV show. It was led by quarterback Larry Lawrence, a highly rated Pennsylvania running back named Dennis Green, exciting wingback Kerry Reardon out of KC, Texas TE Ray Manning. The '66 and '68 classes had some good players, too. Green got off to a great start as a soph, but had an injury (broken ankle?) that he never recovered from. (No Doyle) He ended up as a slow wingback by 1970, 20 pounds heavier. The only good thing about his injury was Nagel making Lawrence the starting QB and moving a poor passing QB named Podolak to running back. (They pissed away a game or two by delaying the move, even after Lawrence came off the bench to lead a come from behind win over #8 Oregon State in the opener.)

Fans were giddy after the '68 season, with most of the team returning, and then it all fell apart. First came the black boycott in the spring. A year later, a feud between Nagel and Evy resulted in Lawrence and an excellent fullback named Tom Smith leaving. Jerry Moses of Waterloo East, maybe the top running back recruit in the country, chose Iowa State, which was symbolic of the wreckage. Lawrence never played for Miami, where he and Smith were headed for, and played in Canada for a couple of years, left football and then became a backup for the Raiders in '74-75 and the Bucs in '76.

Nagel's teams also seemed to have way of not showing up consistently. In '68's defense, a young team had losses to #5 Notre Dame, #7 Purdue, #2 Ohio State and defending Big 10 champ Indiana.

This has good stuff about the disasters of '69 and '70.

Ray Nagel - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Other trivia:

CR Jefferson and Waterloo East were the football kings of the day. Lawrence played there (his dad coached there and came to Iowa with Larry as freshman coach) and classmate Layne McDowell was a highly regard DT who came to Iowa with Lawrence. Jon Meskimen was a very good OG in the class ahead. Doug Lane was the top high school shot putter in the country who went to USC to throw. When Lawrence was a senior, they won the "mythical" title in football and Lawrence started at guard on a really outstanding state baskeball championship team. After that, future Commings OC Howard Vernon led East to something like 4 consecutive undefeated seasons with players like Moses and an unstoppable Wing T.

Evy didn't think much of Nagel's coaching acumen, but reasoned that he could be an impressive recruiter and that a good staff could do the coaching. They did have some coaches who had long careers, most famously Wayne Fontes of Lions fame. Nagel unfortunately fired Evy loyalist and outstanding OL coach Gary Grouwinkel, who went on to have a long and illustrious career as a Chicago area high school coach.

Players who became coaches were Green, Rich Solomon, a Commings assistant and long time Green assistant, and Podolak's brother-in-law Tom Hayes, who had a long career at Iowa, UCLA (DC under Donahue), the Redskins, Saints and Kansas State (DC in Snyder's second term).

Thus concludes this exciting episode of "Grandpa talks about the old days".

@ChipHilton has forgotten more about Iowa football than the rest of us know.

 

[nolookpass]

anyone who remembers the great Tom Rusk is a friend of mine.

 

[26.2]

anyone who remembers the great Tom Rusk is a facebook friend of mine.

corrected

 

[L. Wade Childress]

anyone who remembers the great Tom Rusk is a friend of mine.

I think I had some friends who knew his daughter

 

[Greg Obrecht]

Oh

 

[ChipHilton]

@ChipHilton has forgotten more about Iowa football than the rest of us know.

Or misremembered.

 

[nikolausp]

1- Jimmies and Joes
2- Bad defenses

They had what was a good-to-great recruiting class in 1967, which I think narrowly lost to Ohio State's legendary class of that year and won its other games. I have this vague memory of hearing updates on this "exciting freshman class" on the radio or maybe Nagel's TV show. It was led by quarterback Larry Lawrence, a highly rated Pennsylvania running back named Dennis Green, exciting wingback Kerry Reardon out of KC, Texas TE Ray Manning. The '66 and '68 classes had some good players, too. Green got off to a great start as a soph, but had an injury (broken ankle?) that he never recovered from. (No Doyle) He ended up as a slow wingback by 1970, 20 pounds heavier. The only good thing about his injury was Nagel making Lawrence the starting QB and moving a poor passing QB named Podolak to running back. (They pissed away a game or two by delaying the move, even after Lawrence came off the bench to lead a come from behind win over #8 Oregon State in the opener.)

Fans were giddy after the '68 season, with most of the team returning, and then it all fell apart. First came the black boycott in the spring. A year later, a feud between Nagel and Evy resulted in Lawrence and an excellent fullback named Tom Smith leaving. Jerry Moses of Waterloo East, maybe the top running back recruit in the country, chose Iowa State, which was symbolic of the wreckage. Lawrence never played for Miami, where he and Smith were headed for, and played in Canada for a couple of years, left football and then became a backup for the Raiders in '74-75 and the Bucs in '76.

Nagel's teams also seemed to have way of not showing up consistently. In '68's defense, a young team had losses to #5 Notre Dame, #7 Purdue, #2 Ohio State and defending Big 10 champ Indiana.

This has good stuff about the disasters of '69 and '70.

Ray Nagel - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Other trivia:

CR Jefferson and Waterloo East were the football kings of the day. Lawrence played there (his dad coached there and came to Iowa with Larry as freshman coach) and classmate Layne McDowell was a highly regard DT who came to Iowa with Lawrence. Jon Meskimen was a very good OG in the class ahead. Doug Lane was the top high school shot putter in the country who went to USC to throw. When Lawrence was a senior, they won the "mythical" title in football and Lawrence started at guard on a really outstanding state baskeball championship team. After that, future Commings OC Howard Vernon led East to something like 4 consecutive undefeated seasons with players like Moses and an unstoppable Wing T.

Evy didn't think much of Nagel's coaching acumen, but reasoned that he could be an impressive recruiter and that a good staff could do the coaching. They did have some coaches who had long careers, most famously Wayne Fontes of Lions fame. Nagel unfortunately fired Evy loyalist and outstanding OL coach Gary Grouwinkel, who went on to have a long and illustrious career as a Chicago area high school coach.

Players who became coaches were Green, Rich Solomon, a Commings assistant and long time Green assistant, and Podolak's brother-in-law Tom Hayes, who had a long career at Iowa, UCLA (DC under Donahue), the Redskins, Saints and Kansas State (DC in Snyder's second term).

Thus concludes this exciting episode of "Grandpa talks about the old days".

 

[Gushawk]

Hope they don’t, but unlike with Brian, it’s inevitable

 

[Hawkstrat]

He might be the next great college coach, but where does one justify "top shelf recruiter" or particularly "knows how you build a program."

He's never coached anywhere but Iowa and started that in 2008. Build a program?