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I tend to believe that "X's and O's" is a vastly overrated concept in basketball.
I agree, which is one of the reasons I believe that raw talent is much more important to winning in basketball than it is in football.

Much of basketball is players performing outside of the system. Little of football is that way.
Debit is wise in this assessment.
 

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Scheduling around other teams' senior nights is key #3.
 

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I tend to believe that "X's and O's" is a vastly overrated concept in basketball.
I remember on one of the Big Ten Basketball specials on the Big Ten Network this last summer, they profiled the 1989 Michigan National Championship Team. One of the players being interviewed, I think it was either Terry Mills or Sean Higgins, said that during the tournament they weren't drawing up any set plays. He said they were "Straight ballin.'"

As long as you get athletes, X's and O's aren't nearly as important.
 

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i cant believe people believe ANYTHING that is posted during a coaching search. there is just as much BS thrown out there by other coaches are there is by the iowa people.
 

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It doesn't even look like Selby and Brust are playing the same game.
 
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So let me get this straight-

Forbes is a proven top notch recruiter at 3 different schools.

Forbes gets access to those top 10 recruits we haven't sniffed in years.

Forbes has serious pull with AAU unlike the last 2 coaches.

Forbes is on a team in the tourney right now.

Forbes is possibly an Iowa fan that really wants job.

Forbes probably is not going to be that expensive so Barta doesn't have to print money to make it happen.



Meanwhile Barta is hung up on coaching experience and will hire underwhelming guys from mid-majors.
 
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Brian Gregory might be it gentlemen.
link?
nothing solid yet. just putting multiple little tid-bits together and it seems to be pointing in that direction.

- barta flight from cinci (near dayton) to ic today
- a few different people via twitter claiming a former davis player said Gregory has been talked to and has quoted his 'price'
- forum on scout

i have nothing solid...just the flavor of the day, no doubt. but maybe it has steam.
 
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Brian Gregory might be it gentlemen.
link?
nothing solid yet. just putting multiple little tid-bits together and it seems to be pointing in that direction.

- barta flight from cinci (near dayton) to ic today
- a few different people via twitter claiming a former davis player said Gregory has been talked to and has quoted his 'price'
- forum on rivals suggesting coaching announcement tomorrow

i have nothing solid...just the flavor of the day, no doubt. but maybe it has steam.
Your link went to the scout site, not rivals.
 
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nothing solid yet. just putting multiple little tid-bits together and it seems to be pointing in that direction.

- barta flight from cinci (near dayton) to ic today
- a few different people via twitter claiming a former davis player said Gregory has been talked to and has quoted his 'price'
- forum on scout

i have nothing solid...just the flavor of the day, no doubt. but maybe it has steam.
Your link went to the scout site, not rivals.

thanks, changed. that was the wrong link all together.
 
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Brian Gregory might be it gentlemen.
link?
nothing solid yet. just putting multiple little tid-bits together and it seems to be pointing in that direction.

- barta flight from cinci (near dayton) to ic today
- a few different people via twitter claiming a former davis player said Gregory has been talked to and has quoted his 'price'
- forum on scout

i have nothing solid...just the flavor of the day, no doubt. but maybe it has steam.
isn't Dayton still in the NIT? Even if Gregory did give the team the day off, it'd be pretty bad form for him to interview for a different job on that day while his team was still actually "in season". I guess to me it wouldn't speak very highly of his character.
 

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So about 4 hours ago I didn't understand the Forbes talk. Really, other than him being from Iowa I couldn't understand why people would want him. But after seeing the video of Shelby, if (Big if) he could get that kid to play at Iowa, I would be 100% behind him.

I also violated my personal rule of never going to HawkeyeReport again. Damit.
 

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I'm not buying Gregory. If he is the hire, it looks like I will be waiting another 3-4 years before I truly follow the basketball team again.
 

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Sadly, I find this potential development a somewhat welcome and reassuring one.
 
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isn't Dayton still in the NIT? Even if Gregory did give the team the day off, it'd be pretty bad form for him to interview for a different job on that day while his team was still actually "in season". I guess to me it wouldn't speak very highly of his character.
yes, next game is 3/30.

good point though. that might be a tad shady of him to talk to another school while in a tournament. not sure on how that all works. like i said, probably just the flavor of the day.
 
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good point though. that might be a tad shady of him to talk to another school while in a tournament. not sure on how that all works. like i said, probably just the flavor of the day.
Doesn't bother me one bit. It happens all the time in college football.
 
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isn't Dayton still in the NIT? Even if Gregory did give the team the day off, it'd be pretty bad form for him to interview for a different job on that day while his team was still actually "in season". I guess to me it wouldn't speak very highly of his character.
yes, next game is 3/30.

good point though. that might be a tad shady of him to talk to another school while in a tournament. not sure on how that all works. like i said, probably just the flavor of the day.
It happens all the time. However, I think it would be shady if they announced anything prior to the conclusion of Dayton's season.
 

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It's Gregory's if they can come to terms which I think they will and it'll be announced in plenty of time for the final 4.
 

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isn't Dayton still in the NIT? Even if Gregory did give the team the day off, it'd be pretty bad form for him to interview for a different job on that day while his team was still actually "in season". I guess to me it wouldn't speak very highly of his character.
yes, next game is 3/30.

good point though. that might be a tad shady of him to talk to another school while in a tournament. not sure on how that all works. like i said, probably just the flavor of the day.
It happens all the time. However, I think it would be shady if they announced anything prior to the conclusion of Dayton's season.
It happens more times in the 'leveraging my current job for an extension & more $$$' situation.
 
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Not to say I told ya so.....but I wasn't kidding guys

and this is a lock coming from the back to back HALO bracket champ!@






from 2 days ago

Get ready for the Forbes announcement next week.

He is probably the best recruiter for Pearl and "I" believe will take Iowa to a consistent top 5 status in the Big 10. This is his dream job imo.


I would be happy with Forbes.

I realize I will probably be in the minority.

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Yeah he KNOWS that he is a hot commodity and can afford to get in a salary battle. My guess is that he goes to Auburn and Tennessee loses to UNI in the Elite 8 and we hire Forbes the 29th, the day Mr. Hawk stated.[/QUOTE]
 

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Gregory is the best name out there from the "not quite high major, but also not really a mid-major" ranks, but when its all said and done... give me Forbes instead.
 
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Brian Gregory might be it gentlemen.
link?
nothing solid yet. just putting multiple little tid-bits together and it seems to be pointing in that direction.

- barta flight from cinci (near dayton) to ic today
- a few different people via twitter claiming a former davis player said Gregory has been talked to and has quoted his 'price'
- forum on scout

i have nothing solid...just the flavor of the day, no doubt. but maybe it has steam.
That's some solid sleuthing there, gumshoe. Why don't you find bin Laden next?
 
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http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/basketball/8045-gregory-bartas-1-guy-full-buyout-2m-year.html

Interesting. If true, would you pay Gregory $2million per year? I know I said I wanted Barta to break the piggy bank, but I don't know about doing that for Gregory.

Also according to that thread, that would make him the third highest paid coach in the Big 10.
There is no fuckin' way that Gregory should get paid $2 million a year. If he wants that, it's time to move on to another candidate.
 

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Gregory is the best name out there from the "not quite high major, but also not really a mid-major" ranks, but when its all said and done... give me Forbes instead.

This. It's Forbes or bust for me.
 

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http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/basketball/8045-gregory-bartas-1-guy-full-buyout-2m-year.html

Interesting. If true, would you pay Gregory $2million per year? I know I said I wanted Barta to break the piggy bank, but I don't know about doing that for Gregory.

Also according to that thread, that would make him the third highest paid coach in the Big 10.
There is no fuckin' way that Gregory should get paid $2 million a year. If he wants that, it's time to move on to another candidate.

How about paying much less for a guy that WANTS to coach here...that WANTS to be a Hawkeye (again)???
 
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Gregory inherited a strong mid major program from Oliver Purnell. He's been to two NCAA tournaments in 7 years, and had a losing season. Is Gary Barta looking for The Criminal's doppelganger? Dayton fans would drive Gregory to Iowa City if it means getting rid of him.

If Iowa isn't going to spend the money to get a name guy, then just roll the dice with a high potential guy like Forbes instead of some mid major scrub.
 

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I agree that $2 million seems like too much for someone like Gregory. But here the thing, we need to acknowledge that people aren't exactly clamoring to come here right now. Iowa BB is in a deep, dark hole, and the normal rules may not apply.
 

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I agree that $2 million seems like too much for someone like Gregory. But here the thing, we need to acknowledge that people aren't exactly clamoring to come here right now. Iowa BB is in a deep, dark hole, and the normal rules may not apply.
Yeah, but I agree with Karl. I've already acknowledged that it's going to take more money than one might otherwise want to spend to get a coach to come to Iowa. But if the end result of that is paying a coach like Gregory $2 million, I'd rather just roll the dice on a guy like Forbes - who (despite "really wanting to be a Hawkeye") would be an admittedly extraordinary risk.
 
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I agree that $2 million seems like too much for someone like Gregory. But here the thing, we need to acknowledge that people aren't exactly clamoring to come here right now. Iowa BB is in a deep, dark hole, and the normal rules may not apply.
I'm hardly a fan of hiring that Steve Forbes character, but it'd make a lot more sense to hire him and pay 750k.
 

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I agree that $2 million seems like too much for someone like Gregory. But here the thing, we need to acknowledge that people aren't exactly clamoring to come here right now. Iowa BB is in a deep, dark hole, and the normal rules may not apply.
Yeah, but I agree with Karl. I've already acknowledged that it's going to take more money than one might otherwise want to spend to get a coach to come to Iowa. But if the end result of that is paying a coach like Gregory $2 million, I'd rather just roll the dice on a guy like Forbes - who (despite "really wanting to be a Hawkeye") would be an admittedly extraordinary risk.
It may be a "risk" but simply due to the nature of the game it would take nothing more than one or two recruits for it all to pay off. For less than half of what is getting tossed around for these other guys....I think that sounds like a far smaller risk.
 
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So let me get this straight-

Forbes is a proven top notch recruiter at 3 different schools.

Forbes gets access to those top 10 recruits we haven't sniffed in years.

Forbes has serious pull with AAU unlike the last 2 coaches.

Forbes is on a team in the tourney right now.

Forbes is possibly an Iowa fan that really wants job.

Forbes probably is not going to be that expensive so Barta doesn't have to print money to make it happen.



Meanwhile Barta is hung up on coaching experience and will hire underwhelming guys from mid-majors.
I have been championing we hire a proven winner as a head coach from a major.

That being said, Forbes might be the exception, but I still go back to my first comment.
 

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Rumblings are afoot that certain members of the committee (you can guess who) have ruled out pursuing Drew because he might be, to quote another post, "a tad shady".
 
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