Officially Done With Ferentz Thread

[Verbal]

Monster could have been the guru in the AD that tries to manage/temper fans' expectations. Guess they don't need that position anymore.

 

[Southsidehawk]

I emailed him once just to let him know Iowa has a Dental School..

I also know that. I have had more teeth knocked out than old crooked teeth himself. My wife's grand niece is enrolled there at 60k per year. Nice bill when she graduates.

 

[eclone]

Kirk's gone wild... First the afterseason pre-spring 2deeps, and now letting players give interviews after the pro day!

 

[Heavens]

Savvy Kirk, ramping up the excitement!

 

[brantshawks]

I'll renew my season tickets after hearing this!!!1!1

 

[Jimmie Dimmick]

I'm holding my money like it's fricken tax day.

 

[Shawneemicks]

How does Kirk have any say in that anyway?
These guys no longer play for him.
He was probably told by teams that they weren't going to come to his little pro days anymore if they couldn't talk to the players.

 

[Gushawk]

I assume that this "news" relates to a few (carefully selected) current members of the team doing interviews.

 

[eclone]

I assume that he's talking about the underclassmen that also go through the pro day workouts. And I also assume that it's not a free for all, but is a select few well-spoken, non-loose-cannons.

 

[TH1974]

There's no way he's letting his black-balled players talk to anyone.

 

[Ben Kenobi]

There's no way he's letting his black-balled players talk to anyone.

DJK has been eerily silent after all those workouts for NFL scouts...

 

[MikeyJoe]

How does Kirk have any say in that anyway?
These guys no longer play for him.
He was probably told by teams that they weren't going to come to his little pro days anymore if they couldn't talk to the players.

Underclassmen attend the pro days too.

 

[Stu Beagle]

"Iowa fullback Mark Weisman outperformed most of the running backs who were invited to the Scouting Combine. He has a John Kuhn-like skill-set..."
http://gnb.scout.com/story/1530625-pro-day-tour-weisman-states-case

Fuck Ferentz so fucking much

 

[MikeyJoe]

"Iowa fullback Mark Weisman outperformed most of the running backs who were invited to the Scouting Combine. He has a John Kuhn-like skill-set..."
http://gnb.scout.com/story/1530625-pro-day-tour-weisman-states-case

Fuck Ferentz so fucking much

Did you stop reading after the first two words you quoted?

 

[Stu Beagle]

"Iowa fullback Mark Weisman outperformed most of the running backs who were invited to the Scouting Combine. He has a John Kuhn-like skill-set..."
http://gnb.scout.com/story/1530625-pro-day-tour-weisman-states-case

Fuck Ferentz so fucking much

Did you stop reading after the first two words you quoted?

Nope, read it all. Weisman has the tools to be a really good fullback. I think we all knew this.

 

[Jimmie Dimmick]

"Iowa fullback Mark Weisman outperformed most of the running backs who were invited to the Scouting Combine. He has a John Kuhn-like skill-set..."
http://gnb.scout.com/story/1530625-pro-day-tour-weisman-states-case

Fuck Ferentz so fucking much

Did you stop reading after the first two words you quoted?

I did.

Weisman played out of position?

I thought we had someone here say that a couple times.

 

[douglasbader]

Weisman should have been an all time great Iowa fullback and goal line back. Kurt is a dumbfuck.

 

[Heavens]

ESPN names Ferentz Most Overpaid Coach in College Football

Again, Kirk Ferentz's salary was the source of ridicule earlier this week, this time from ESPN, which said the veteran Iowa Hawkeyes coach was the most overpaid in college football.

The Wednesday post at ESPN.com ranked Ferentz, the 17th-year Iowa coach, as having the most bloated deal in college football.

Iowa fans are already rolling their eyes. They've heard all this before because they've seen their school handcuffed for years by the worst contract in college football. If not for a buyout that at one point would have pushed $20 million, Ferentz likely would have been out. No, he definitely would have been out. Instead, because of an unheard of 10-year deal he signed after the 2009 season, Iowa continues to pay top-10 money for a program that isn't sniffing the top 10 in the polls. Coaches agree that Iowa isn't the easiest place to win, but the resources and facilities are well above average and the division is the most winnable in the country.

According to the USA Today coaches salary database, Ferentz earned about $4.1 million in 2014. That ranked ninth among the highest-paid coaches in college football. Alabama's Nick Saban was the most handsomely paid, at about $7.2 million for 2014.

 

[Herky823]

ESPN names Ferentz Most Overpaid Coach in College Football

Again, Kirk Ferentz's salary was the source of ridicule earlier this week, this time from ESPN, which said the veteran Iowa Hawkeyes coach was the most overpaid in college football.

The Wednesday post at ESPN.com ranked Ferentz, the 17th-year Iowa coach, as having the most bloated deal in college football.

Iowa fans are already rolling their eyes. They've heard all this before because they've seen their school handcuffed for years by the worst contract in college football. If not for a buyout that at one point would have pushed $20 million, Ferentz likely would have been out. No, he definitely would have been out. Instead, because of an unheard of 10-year deal he signed after the 2009 season, Iowa continues to pay top-10 money for a program that isn't sniffing the top 10 in the polls. Coaches agree that Iowa isn't the easiest place to win, but the resources and facilities are well above average and the division is the most winnable in the country.

According to the USA Today coaches salary database, Ferentz earned about $4.1 million in 2014. That ranked ninth among the highest-paid coaches in college football. Alabama's Nick Saban was the most handsomely paid, at about $7.2 million for 2014.

Really? The Giant Douche West is worse than the ACC Coastal?

 

[douglasbader]

ESPN names Ferentz Most Overpaid Coach in College Football

Again, Kirk Ferentz's salary was the source of ridicule earlier this week, this time from ESPN, which said the veteran Iowa Hawkeyes coach was the most overpaid in college football.

The Wednesday post at ESPN.com ranked Ferentz, the 17th-year Iowa coach, as having the most bloated deal in college football.

Iowa fans are already rolling their eyes. They've heard all this before because they've seen their school handcuffed for years by the worst contract in college football. If not for a buyout that at one point would have pushed $20 million, Ferentz likely would have been out. No, he definitely would have been out. Instead, because of an unheard of 10-year deal he signed after the 2009 season, Iowa continues to pay top-10 money for a program that isn't sniffing the top 10 in the polls. Coaches agree that Iowa isn't the easiest place to win, but the resources and facilities are well above average and the division is the most winnable in the country.

According to the USA Today coaches salary database, Ferentz earned about $4.1 million in 2014. That ranked ninth among the highest-paid coaches in college football. Alabama's Nick Saban was the most handsomely paid, at about $7.2 million for 2014.

Really? The Giant Douche West is worse than the ACC Coastal?

It is sad, but I would say absolutely at this point.

Nebrantska is declining and now has a new coach that was shitty at Oregon State the last few years. Wisconsin might finally be set for a plunge after going through their 3rd coach in 3 years. Minnesota was celebrated at 8-5. Iowa is mediocre. Illinois sucks. Northwestern sucks. Purdue is a joke.

 

[Gushawk]

If Wisconsin and Nebrantska don't maintain, it will be just a tremendous shit show. That Iowa will finish 3rd or worse in.

 

[Shawneemicks]

I've said it before & I'll say it again, the Big Ten East will eventually be The Big Ten. The West will fragment over time. All the power resides in the East.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

I've said it before & I'll say it again, the Big Ten East will eventually be The Big Ten. The West will fragment over time. All the power resides in the East.

You also said 4 SEC teams would be in the playoff this year.

 

[ClintWalker]

I've said it before & I'll say it again, the Big Ten East will eventually be The Big Ten. The West will fragment over time. All the power resides in the East.

Mecca?

 

[Grape Ape]

I've said it before & I'll say it again, the Big Ten East will eventually be The Big Ten. The West will fragment over time. All the power resides in the East.

At what point does Ohio State leave the Big 10?

 

[Shawneemicks]

I've said it before & I'll say it again, the Big Ten East will eventually be The Big Ten. The West will fragment over time. All the power resides in the East.

You also said 4 SEC teams would be in the playoff this year.

Except that I didn't.

 

[Herky823]

I've said it before & I'll say it again, the Big Ten East will eventually be The Big Ten. The West will fragment over time. All the power resides in the East.

All of your other predictions have gone swimmingly so far. Can't see why this one would be any different.

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

I've said it before & I'll say it again, the Big Ten East will eventually be The Big Ten. The West will fragment over time. All the power resides in the East.

What is this Middle Earth? GFY.

 

[HoundedHawk]

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[PipeDaddy]

That article said KF would have been gone by now if not for the hellacious buyout. I'm not so sure. I'm not sure they really understand the culture here.

 

[cjhawks]

That article said KF would have been gone by now if not for the hellacious buyout. I'm not so sure. I'm not sure they really understand the culture here.

It's ESPN - of COURSE they understand the culture at Iowa. They are Iowa heavy in their coverage for cripes sake.

 

[howler]

The program feels as if it's broken and under highly questionable leadership right now.

 

[Russell Ziske]

That seems a bit harsh.

 

[howler]

I can handle a loss just like any other fan in America, but it's so damn hard to know the program is handcuffed to a mediocre coaching staff for the next decade or so.

 

[ClintWalker]

The program feels as if it's broken and under highly questionable leadership right now.

Maybe not broken but seriously undermanned in several areas. For every really good year there are one or two so-so years along with the occasional real turd. Something Iowa fans must accept and try to live with.

 

[Hawkeye_Pierce]

The program feels as if it's broken and under highly questionable leadership right now.

Maybe not broken but seriously undermanned in several areas. For every really good year there are one or two so-so years along with the occasional real turd. Something Iowa fans must accept and try to live with.

There's no mystery. Iowa does a great job in player development but a poor job in building depth through recruiting. They can't "reload" like the best teams so you go through these shitty years where guys play that shouldn't. Usually, after 3-4 years, they're solid. But until then, you have years like this.

 

[PipeDaddy]

The program feels as if it's broken and under highly questionable leadership right now.

Maybe not broken but seriously undermanned in several areas. For every really good year there are one or two so-so years along with the occasional real turd. Something Iowa fans must accept and try to live with.

There's no mystery. Iowa does a great job in player development but a poor job in building depth through recruiting. They can't "reload" like the best teams so you go through these shitty years where guys play that shouldn't. Usually, after 3-4 years, they're solid. But until then, you have years like this.

The reality is that last season was incredibly lucky. The stars aligned for so many games, so many breaks, weak schedule, etc. It was a magical season no doubt, and I'm not trying to diminish it at all. But it was not the usual Iowa breakout season where we have developed guys and they come to fruition either when you look at the talent levels.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the last few years are a direct result of crappier than usual recruiting due to a stale program which appeared to have lost its desire to compete. And some poor usage of the talent there is. I don't think you can pass it off as the same old same old regular cycles like earlier in KFs tenure.

That being said there is some hope because of this years recruiting class and hopefully reviving some of the talent level. If we can retain the commits we have gotten, of course.

 

[HawkLax6]

I can handle a loss just like any other fan in America, but it's so damn hard to know the program is handcuffed to a mediocre coaching staff for the next decade or so.

Dantonio is mediocre?

 

[Fletch]

Maybe not broken but seriously undermanned in several areas. For every really good year there are one or two so-so years along with the occasional real turd. Something Iowa fans must accept and try to live with.

There's no mystery. Iowa does a great job in player development but a poor job in building depth through recruiting. They can't "reload" like the best teams so you go through these shitty years where guys play that shouldn't. Usually, after 3-4 years, they're solid. But until then, you have years like this.

The reality is that last season was incredibly lucky. The stars aligned for so many games, so many breaks, weak schedule, etc. It was a magical season no doubt, and I'm not trying to diminish it at all. But it was not the usual Iowa breakout season where we have developed guys and they come to fruition either when you look at the talent levels.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the last few years are a direct result of crappier than usual recruiting due to a stale program which appeared to have lost its desire to compete. And some poor usage of the talent there is. I don't think you can pass it off as the same old same old regular cycles like earlier in KFs tenure.

That being said there is some hope because of this years recruiting class and hopefully reviving some of the talent level. If we can retain the commits we have gotten, of course.

Lets let the ink dry first.

 

[nolookpass]

I guess the reality is the state of iowa doesn't produce a large number of D1 recruits and it doesn't have an ocean or anything else cool here to attract players so I have to enjoy the great seasons that happen every 5 or 6 years and accept mediocrity the rest of the time.

 

[Fletch]

How was Nebrantska so good for so long? They had no problem attracting top talent and they have those same issues.

 

[CamelTones]

How was Nebrantska so good for so long? They had no problem attracting top talent and they have those same issues.

115 scholarships plus they got a lot of the local guys to 'walk on'

 

[CamelTones]

Maybe not broken but seriously undermanned in several areas. For every really good year there are one or two so-so years along with the occasional real turd. Something Iowa fans must accept and try to live with.

There's no mystery. Iowa does a great job in player development but a poor job in building depth through recruiting. They can't "reload" like the best teams so you go through these shitty years where guys play that shouldn't. Usually, after 3-4 years, they're solid. But until then, you have years like this.

The reality is that last season was incredibly lucky. The stars aligned for so many games, so many breaks, weak schedule, etc. It was a magical season no doubt, and I'm not trying to diminish it at all. But it was not the usual Iowa breakout season where we have developed guys and they come to fruition either when you look at the talent levels.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the last few years are a direct result of crappier than usual recruiting due to a stale program which appeared to have lost its desire to compete. And some poor usage of the talent there is. I don't think you can pass it off as the same old same old regular cycles like earlier in KFs tenure.

That being said there is some hope because of this years recruiting class and hopefully reviving some of the talent level. If we can retain the commits we have gotten, of course.

The reason Iowa can't sustain success is, well, their inability to sustain success. They have gotten a little spike in recruiting with this class and last years class. With a poor year this year they will take a dip in recruiting for a couple of classes. Then there will be an uptick again once the good recruits become juniors and seniors.

The other thing is Iowa struggles when they don't have a motivated team. Last year they were motivated, watched film all summer and set strength records. After the game yesterday Jewell said they need to get back to watching film again. Basically it sounds like they got a little lazy and it is showing up on the field.

 

[KitKatApples]

How was Nebrantska so good for so long? They had no problem attracting top talent and they have those same issues.

They used to be able to have around ten academic partial qualifiers now it's only two.

 

[nolookpass]

How was Nebrantska so good for so long? They had no problem attracting top talent and they have those same issues.

They were the leaders into strength training

 

[RecreationalGynecologist]

Everyone else caught up to Nebrantska in the S&C dept but IMO Nebrantska's biggest advantage was their system and they ran it to perfection. They always had an identity-today? Not so much but they have enough tradition, $$$ and fan support to stay successful but I doubt they'll ever reach their previous level of success.

 

[PipeDaddy]

There's no mystery. Iowa does a great job in player development but a poor job in building depth through recruiting. They can't "reload" like the best teams so you go through these shitty years where guys play that shouldn't. Usually, after 3-4 years, they're solid. But until then, you have years like this.

The reality is that last season was incredibly lucky. The stars aligned for so many games, so many breaks, weak schedule, etc. It was a magical season no doubt, and I'm not trying to diminish it at all. But it was not the usual Iowa breakout season where we have developed guys and they come to fruition either when you look at the talent levels.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the last few years are a direct result of crappier than usual recruiting due to a stale program which appeared to have lost its desire to compete. And some poor usage of the talent there is. I don't think you can pass it off as the same old same old regular cycles like earlier in KFs tenure.

That being said there is some hope because of this years recruiting class and hopefully reviving some of the talent level. If we can retain the commits we have gotten, of course.

Lets let the ink dry first.

Thus the last sentence.

 

[Fletch]

The reality is that last season was incredibly lucky. The stars aligned for so many games, so many breaks, weak schedule, etc. It was a magical season no doubt, and I'm not trying to diminish it at all. But it was not the usual Iowa breakout season where we have developed guys and they come to fruition either when you look at the talent levels.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the last few years are a direct result of crappier than usual recruiting due to a stale program which appeared to have lost its desire to compete. And some poor usage of the talent there is. I don't think you can pass it off as the same old same old regular cycles like earlier in KFs tenure.

That being said there is some hope because of this years recruiting class and hopefully reviving some of the talent level. If we can retain the commits we have gotten, of course.

Lets let the ink dry first.

Thus the last sentence.

Yeah, it was early. I missed it.

 

[Soda Popinski]

Somebody start a GoFundMe to hire Miles.

 

[Gushawk]

Certainly did not take him long to make us utterly irrelevant again. Considerably faster than I expected. At least a year ahead of schedule, and yes it will and probably should have crootin' consequences.