**Virginia Tech vs. Iowa Basketball - 11/10 - 6pm - FOX1**

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Cam was a pretty giant turd that game. If you don’t have any guards that want to stay in front of their man, at least have the 7’4 behemoth playing to deal with down low.
 

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They’re pretty much what I figured they’d be this year. A game or two either side of .500
Ben better get some athleticism for next year, recruiting needs to pick up & quick
 

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Holy shit, the fucking sky is falling in here. Plenty to be optimistic about. Va Tech is going to be pretty damn good. They have 2 guards who can really score and that 4 who is pretty good too. Saw a lot of things that were good. Plenty to work on. They'll be fine. Especially if McKeever can get healthy.
 

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Had a chance to put some separation on the scoreboard, but McCollum keeps his kid in and he repeatedly gets abused on defense and VT ties it up. Free throws sucked. And Manyow really sucked down the stretch.

Happy with the rebounding and handling the physicality. Koch is an absolute stud. Coleman looked the part. Some good to be had in there, but what a frustrating game.
 

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Holy shit, the fucking sky is falling in here. Plenty to be optimistic about. Va Tech is going to be pretty damn good. They have 2 guards who can really score and that 4 who is pretty good too. Saw a lot of things that were good. Plenty to work on. They'll be fine. Especially if McKeever can get healthy.
Howard looked good. Was a monster on the glass.
 

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Holy shit, the fucking sky is falling in here. Plenty to be optimistic about. Va Tech is going to be pretty damn good. They have 2 guards who can really score and that 4 who is pretty good too. Saw a lot of things that were good. Plenty to work on. They'll be fine. Especially if McKeever can get healthy.
Yeah, I know Peyton ruins everything but JFC I feel like I watched a different game than half these faggots. Once Coleman solidifies himself as the best PG and Mckeever gets healthy there is alot to be optimistic about.
 

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Wtf was that stretch of Lil Ben from the 10-ish minute mark all the way to 5 minutes left? FFS. Getting blown by and air balling.
Of course McCollum is going to be the scapegoat, but the point differential in the 2nd half from when he entered to where he exited was negligible. Not sure exactly when he entered/exited, but at 10 minutes we were down 1 and at 5 minutes it was tied.
 

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We're still a solid two years away from being a big ten roster all the way up and down the lineup. Right now it's still Koch and the mid major all stars. They absolutely can't miss on a PG in 28
 

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We're still a solid two years away from being a big ten roster all the way up and down the lineup. Right now it's still Koch and the mid major all stars. They absolutely can't miss on a PG in 28
Close to missing on a PG in 27.
 

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We're still a solid two years away from being a big ten roster all the way up and down the lineup. Right now it's still Koch and the mid major all stars. They absolutely can't miss on a PG in 28
Daughtry staying close to home I assume? Sucks being second. But with Fran we were really good at it.
 

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They lost a home game to a undisciplined team that's going to be outside the bubble and not in the NCAA tourney while Ben played his Little Lord 17 minutes more than a 4* wing and 11 minutes more than a much better defensive 4* guard. All while being undisciplined themselves and maybe the worst free throw shooting team of the last decade of college basketball.

If anyone sees positive in that, you're looking through Elite Eight hangover colored glasses.

Ben McCollum really, really savored the smell of his own farts this offseason. He turned down the North Carolina job! The balding son of a bitch thinks he's invincible.
 

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The Little Mac shit aside (which is a shit show), the sub patterns with McKeever, Coon, Manyawu, even Sage are just mind-bottling. Howard played well, but lets not be setting him up for key shots. That's not his role at all.

Just a bizarre game.
 

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I think I've changed my opinion on Howard 15 different times in the year that he has been here. His toughness, defense and rebounding are so good for a guy his size. If he can just be adequate offensively he would be a great role player. He will probably throw up a couple air balls next game and I'll wonder WTF I was thinking.

Jirak and Manyawu are almost as bad as Peyton at this point. I'd rather go small in the minutes that Mckeever is out and give those minutes to Coon, Thompson or Harris.
 

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Seemed like Tate Freaking Sage was killing it for awhile. Then he just wasn’t on the court much it seemed in the second half.
 

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Seemed like Tate Freaking Sage was killing it for awhile. Then he just wasn’t on the court much it seemed in the second half.
"We kind of forgot about him. Yeah, we need to get him more minutes in those spots...."
 

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78 for 126 from the line this year. 61.9%, would make us one of the worst free throw shooting teams in the entire country the last decade.

Shooting 2 free throws down 1 point with 1.9 seconds left and can't seal it.

It's already cost Iowa a game. It will cost them multiple more games this year.
 
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Refs gave us the late foul call. Two free throws for the win. Couldn’t get it done.
Their leading scored fouled out and couldn’t play the overtime period. Missed opportunity.
 

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We're still a solid two years away from being a big ten roster all the way up and down the lineup. Right now it's still Koch and the mid major all stars. They absolutely can't miss on a PG in 28
Is a good PG going to commit when the coach's son that has 3 years left is playing as a walk on?
 

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Well, Ben took a zero offer D2 kid and turned him into a first-round pick, so yeah you could easily argue he’s currently doing the exact same thing with his son. Problem is, we all know Lil Ben isn’t Stirtz. When a high end 2027 recruit looks at Iowa and sees the coach’s kid getting real minutes you could argue that the coach sees him as the next Stirtz development project. Under your own framework, the PG whisperer is just going to run the same process with his D2-level son, Peyton.

And we all know that Ben wouldn't guarantee minutes when Cayden's Mom asked for a starting commitment. Personally, I think it's a vanity / money thing with Cayden, just looking at his Instagram.

But you could definitely make an argument that playing his son is going to make recruiting the position much harder when he has proven he can do more with less, and his son is now the new project.
 

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Couldn't get a stop to save their life and killed the crowd momentum so many times. Really a bad effort and the type of dipshittery we saw many times with Frans team. The groans during the missed free throws got pretty loud. A lot of fans in my area very vocal about Peyton and Cam being fucking terrible. This is going to be a thing all year. Understandable as they were awful though.
 
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