**Virginia Tech vs. Iowa Basketball - 11/10 - 6pm - FOX1**

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

Up 58-56 when he left the game, up 74-72 when he re-entered. Hopefully he can be a 35 minute guy, but Ben is still feeling the new pieces out.

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

Not having McKeever in for the overtime tip was completely Idiotic. Possessions are vital at the point and Cam already showed in the opening tip that he couldn’t out jump the guy.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

I apologize to wade. Ben is a fucking idiot. Someone needs to give his kid mono. Any haloites have daughters (or sons) at Iowa?

 

[HerkyHopeful]

McKeever doesn't look healthy but nice to see him play as much as he did

 

[douglasbader]

Coleman sat from the 11:23 mark until 3:52.

It's insane, because from the first fucking time I saw him live a few games ago it's screamingly obvious he's going to be the guy with the ball in his hands when the game is on the line. A blind man could see he can get his shot whenever he wants. Defense isn't quite good enough yet, but that will come with time and it certainly is no worse than the fucking midget son of the head coach.

Can we just fast forward to the part where Benjamin McCollum figures out he's a flaming retard and plays the obvious players? Every single second that his Little Lord Peyton is on the court is a minute that Coleman or Coon or Thompson isn't on the court.

Stop the fucking madness. His son had one of the worst stat lines you can have tonight. He got blown by over and over, he did nothing on offense and he can't rebound. In addition to all that, he committed 2 horrible reach in fouls that led to 3 point plays in a game that Iowa needed a single point more to win in regulation.

Fuck Ben and fuck anyone who supports his dipshit kid playing.

 

[Silky Johnson]

Combs is slightly above average if that but given the situation you need to ride him nearly as hard as you did Stirtz. With the main difference being his mission should be to find opportunities for Koch and Sage.

Beyond that, Coon, Thompson, and Coleman should all play more but in the near term that pretty clearly won’t happen as Manyawu and little lick will be favored. If McCollum keeps this shit up with his son we won’t be making any tournaments. Big Ten guards will eat us alive if he plays more than 5 min/game.

 

[BillyBob]

I’m disgusted to say this, but L Tard was unfortunately correct.

 

[CamelTones]

I don’t really understand what the point of having a 7’3” guy is if you’re not going to put him in the game up 2 and a minute left knowing the other team is likely going to blow by one of your guards on a switch.

I also would like to know wtf happened with the Ace Glass recruitment because him and Coleman together would solve a lot of problems.

 

[The Dad]

Well, Ben took a zero offer D2 kid and turned him into a first-round pick, so yeah you could easily argue he’s currently doing the exact same thing with his son. Problem is, we all know Lil Ben isn’t Stirtz. When a high end 2027 recruit looks at Iowa and sees the coach’s kid getting real minutes you could argue that the coach sees him as the next Stirtz development project. Under your own framework, the PG whisperer is just going to run the same process with his D2-level son, Peyton.

And we all know that Ben wouldn't guarantee minutes when Cayden's Mom asked for a starting commitment. Personally, I think it's a vanity / money thing with Cayden, just looking at his Instagram.

But you could definitely make an argument that playing his son is going to make recruiting the position much harder when he has proven he can do more with less, and his son is now the new project.

His kid didn’t sniff any D2 offers either.

 

[The Dad]

The Pear is getting a free pass in here. Embarrassing performance against actual D1 athletes. Who could have seen it coming?

 

[Fletch]

Cam is fat and I am sick of him already

 

[Shawneemicks]

Banks would have been better than cam or Jirak every day of the week

 

[Hawkstrat]

On the post game, Ben said Peyton played elite defense and maybe they should have had him in at the end.

 

[nolookpass]

per usual,@Lwade nailed it.

 

[The Dad]

On the post game, Ben said Peyton played elite defense and maybe they should have had him in at the end.

Nice try. Not believing this.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

On the post game, Ben said Peyton played elite defense and maybe they should have had him in at the end.

He's straight up delusional. It's already killing my interest in caring about this team

 

[Fletch]

Someone should make a highlight reel of Peyton getting destroyed last night and email it to him

 

[Hawkstrat]

Nice try. Not believing this.

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Right around the 4 hour, 13 minute mark.

 

[Shawneemicks]

This year was always kind of a throwaway year in my mind. He better figure out how to get more talent, especially quickness in a hurry.

 

[The Dad]

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Right around the 4 hour, 13 minute mark.

 

[kenos]

Hopefully Peyton can have a nice ACL tear , herniated disk, or maybe just a nagging stress fracture and be out for a year. He can then transfer to D2.

 

[hawkeyealum]

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Right around the 4 hour, 13 minute mark.

Oh what the fuck

 

[The Dad]

What a Sunshine Boi FAGGOT!!!!!!

I’m going to trust that the coach that took Iowa to its first elite 8 in 40 years knows better than Captain Cul-de-sac

 

[Jim Tebow]

Well fuck. I guess he IS delusional. Good coach otherwise though. But yea, i will tune out if he continues to play his overmatched son big minutes.

 

[Uff Da]

FT shooting obviously needs to improve

After Connor and Patrick, really didn't want to go through that again, yet here we are. A walk on from Northwest is playing 17 minutes in a game.

 

[gohawkeyes811]

Wow, that is truly insane. Elite?

Man, I could understand him saying "Peyton worked his butt off but just really struggled with their guards" or something like that. He played elite defensively and should have been in at the end?

Folks, it is literally impossible to objectively assess your own children. It cannot be done.

 

[gohawkeyes811]

Obviously it's impossible for us to not be biased in assessing Peyton's play as well. I think it is only fair to admit that. If he was some other player that was in playing like he did, we would probably just be like "Man he's working hard but really not that good".

But of course that isn't the case that he's just some other player. He wouldn't be playing ANYWHERE in D1 right now, correct? Is that pretty much the consensus?

 

[douglasbader]

Hot fucking take.... the NCAA Tournament and making an Elite Eight is awesome and everything, but that shit happens over a very quick 10 day period and is a total crapshoot. The rest of the season lasts nearly 5 months. I actually fucking enjoy and look forward to those 5 months as much or more than some 10 day run in a crapshoot tourney. It fills the cold and dark months with some joy watching 30+ games of these guys play.

The prospect of watching Benjamin fucking around with Little Lord Fauntleroy for the next 4 years at what appears to be a planned 25-35 minutes per game is pure nonsense. What a fucking asshole, and the guy must truly believe he's some sort of basketball genius. He's going to find out when it comes to his son he's not and it's going to cost him his fanbase and his job if he's not careful.

 

[The Dad]

Obviously it's impossible for us to not be biased in assessing Peyton's play as well. I think it is only fair to admit that. If he was some other player that was in playing like he did, we would probably just be like "Man he's working hard but really not that good".

But of course that isn't the case that he's just some other player. He wouldn't be playing ANYWHERE in D1 right now, correct? Is that pretty much the consensus?

He didn’t have any D1 or D2 offers. It would likely be Simpson or Central.

The best HS players in the state barely receive D2 offers. Peyton McCollum was not that in HS.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

@L. Wade Childress was right about everything

 

[gohawkeyes811]

By the way, I have nothing against Peyton whatsoever. I'm sure he loves being a Hawk and will do everything he can to be the best player he can be. It really has nothing to do with him personally. It's all just ridiculous.

 

[Saul Berkley]

This is why you don't even put your D2 son on the team to begin with. Should have had him go to NW Missouri State or whatever and let him play down there. When he's on the team, even as a walk-on, it's too tempting to put your own son in when he clearly does not belong.

 

[douglasbader]

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Right around the 4 hour, 13 minute mark.

Look at this board and this is how the progression is going to go everywhere. For the last few months it was only L. Wade being annoying about Ben and his son. Then it was me and maybe one other person the last few weeks. Everyone else still giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Now he goes and makes an insane comment after a loss where his team looked poorly coached and his son played 17 minutes getting roasted over and over. Instantly now nearly EVERYONE is going to be like "what the fuck man??" and that is going to bleed into the public IowaFan and the media and eventually the players.

The 4* guys aren't stupid. You can play basketball and make money anywhere in the year 2026. Why play for a delusional coach who will be prioritizing his midget son for the next 4 years?

This is bad.

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

Fuck everything

 

[douglasbader]

By the way, I have nothing against Peyton whatsoever. I'm sure he loves being a Hawk and will do everything he can to be the best player he can be. It really has nothing to do with him personally. It's all just ridiculous.

Fuck that. I have something against him and his father, both should have known after being Iowa fans and knowing what happened to the McCaffery's that they never should have even attempted this. It had no chance of working unless he was playing spot minutes at the end of games in blowouts.

Both of them are fucking assholes.

 

[gohawkeyes811]

Well that's just fucking ridiculous Doug. This is all on Ben.

 

[Shawneemicks]

I’m mad at the mom, shouldn’t have ever birthed him

 

[gohawkeyes811]

There's simply no doubt that this is the easiest and fastest way for a fan base to turn sour.

 

[The Dad]

There's simply no doubt that this is the easiest and fastest way for a fan base to turn sour.

Right or wrong, every recruiting miss, especially at guard, will be blamed on this shit.

And it provides an “elite” sales pitch to be used against us by other teams.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Fuck that. I have something against him and his father, both should have known after being Iowa fans and knowing what happened to the McCaffery's that they never should have even attempted this. It had no chance of working unless he was playing spot minutes at the end of games in blowouts.

Both of them are fucking assholes.

Especially when this was the entire reason the job was open in the first place.

 

[douglasbader]

Well that's just fucking ridiculous Doug. This is all on Ben.

I don't fucking care. Fuck Peyton as well. Fuck his mother and fuck his other shitty brother as well that now is almost guaranteed to join him at Iowa in a few years.

 

[gohawkeyes811]

I do question his judgment based on all the "cupping" marks on his shoulders.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Shit mccollum even looks like David Cross

 

[Fair and Balanced]

It’s time for a coaching Hot Board.

 

[douglasbader]

I do question his judgment based on all the "cupping" marks on his shoulders.

I'm going to guess they are the type of family where mommy rubs essential oils on the kids foreheads before going to bed each night.

 

[Monster]

Lots of pants shitting.

In this thread as well.

 

[Mysterio]

send ur kid to central college and all the issues are gone. other than the middle school level free throw shooting and missed layups

 

[Stu Beagle]

I was thinking Peyton was a junior or senior. Fuck

 

[CamelTones]

I’d like to know what Cam Manyawu worked on to get better in the off season.

 

[douglasbader]

I’d like to know what Cam Manyawu worked on to get better in the off season.

It appears he spent most of the offseason eating at Pizza Ranch.