Wow, Tennessee

[Mo T]

Cuonzo Martin........

Bad move. Trust me on this one.

 

[gable_guy]

Who else was going to take the job with probation looming?

 

[ivan_drago]

Some people are really high on Martin.

I'm not one of those people.

 

[cjhawks]

Cuonzo Martin........

Bad move. Trust me on this one.

Unpaid speeding and parking tickets, huh?

 

[gable_guy]

Cuonzo Martin........

Bad move. Trust me on this one.

Unpaid speeding and parking tickets, huh?

I was thinking shaved Cuonzo apple scar.

 

[newsbreaker]

But MSU [STRIKE]is in as an at-large[/STRIKE] is going to join a new major conference just as soon as the Big East blows up and the remnants come and get them. They have money! They're big time!

 

[Mo T]

But MSU [STRIKE]is in as an at-large[/STRIKE] is going to join a new major conference just as soon as the Big East blows up and the remnants come and get them. They have money! They're big time!

??????

 

[Mo T]

Cuonzo Martin........

Bad move. Trust me on this one.

Unpaid speeding and parking tickets, huh?

No, I just don't think he's a good coach.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

this doesnt really affect me at all

 

[Lime]

Oh no! Who will guide Missouri to inexplicable road losses and NIT appearances now?

 

[DGHawk]

this doesnt really affect me at all

That's a first. Thanks for letting us know.

 

[Lime]

Other than Painter and Weber, I'm trying to think of a Valley coach that was actually successful at the major conference level.

Keno- disaster
McDermott- disaster
Alford- below average
Turgeon- slightly above average
Stallings- above average
Altman- poor so far

even Weber has sucked since Self's recruits left (just two wins in NCAAs the last six seasons).

this is an admittedly unscientific study.

 

[jabberjaw]

Other than Painter and Weber, I'm trying to think of a Valley coach that was actually successful at the major conference level.

Keno- disaster
McDermott- disaster
Alford- below average
Turgeon- slightly above average
Stallings- above average
Altman- poor so far

even Weber has sucked since Self's recruits left (just two wins in NCAAs the last six seasons).

this is an admittedly unscientific study.

Does Painter even count?

 

[cjhawks]

Cuonzo Martin........

Bad move. Trust me on this one.

Unpaid speeding and parking tickets, huh?

No, I just don't think he's a good coach.

Christ Mo, it was a joke.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

i think turgeon has been good. TAMU isnt exactly a hoops power.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Other than Painter and Weber, I'm trying to think of a Valley coach that was actually successful at the major conference level.

Keno- disaster
McDermott- disaster
Alford- below average
Turgeon- slightly above average
Stallings- above average
Altman- poor so far

even Weber has sucked since Self's recruits left (just two wins in NCAAs the last six seasons).

this is an admittedly unscientific study.

I would say Turgeon has been more than "slightly above average" and Stallings has been great for Vanderbilt. Plus you have to add Painter who has been successful.

 

[jabberjaw]

Seems like Turgeon is getting credit for the work done by Billy G.

 

[BBK]

Other than Painter and Weber, I'm trying to think of a Valley coach that was actually successful at the major conference level.

Keno- disaster
McDermott- disaster
Alford- below average
Turgeon- slightly above average
Stallings- above average
Altman- poor so far

even Weber has sucked since Self's recruits left (just two wins in NCAAs the last six seasons).

this is an admittedly unscientific study.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Weber fired within the next couple of years.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

Seems like Turgeon is getting credit for the work done by Billy G.

He's been there 4 years, gone 97-40 and 38-26 in the Big 12 with 4 NCAA trips and 3 of them in the 2nd round. He's been better the last two years with his own guys. It's not the total rebuild it was for BCG but he's been really solid.

 

[Lime]

Other than Painter and Weber, I'm trying to think of a Valley coach that was actually successful at the major conference level.

Keno- disaster
McDermott- disaster
Alford- below average
Turgeon- slightly above average
Stallings- above average
Altman- poor so far

even Weber has sucked since Self's recruits left (just two wins in NCAAs the last six seasons).

this is an admittedly unscientific study.

I would say Turgeon has been more than "slightly above average" and Stallings has been great for Vanderbilt. Plus you have to add Painter who has been successful.

He did a nice job initially, but the SEC is somewhat lacking in depth. I don't think he can be great when he loses to double-digit seeds in the first round of the tournament every year.

 

[HiawathaHawk]

It's mostly the SEC West that is down though. Florida, Kentucky and Tennessee have been very good recently and Georgia has been better than most of the West. The last 5 years he's gone to 4 tournaments with 1 Sweet 16 but the other 3 times they've been upset as you said. Still he's won 22, 26, 19, 24, 23 and gone 10-6, 10-6, 8-8, 12-4, 9-7 in conference in the last 5 years. At Vanderbilt, that's pretty impressive.