**Official 2017 Iowa Football Off-Season Thread**

sergeanthulka

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You know what makes HaMo happy...when people pay their gambling debts.
 

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Fuck you Jimmy! Fuck. You.

No offense. Strictly business.
 

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Option 1: bad grades

Option 2: good grades, plays really well in the fall and big boy offers roll in

Option 3: goes to Iowa
 

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We somehow currently have like 5 times as many scholarship PFs on campus as we do WRs so I'm extremely in favor of this idea.
 

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That video that Wagner was narrating was pretty cool, but I'd be fine if I never heard any Iowa sanctioned video, any coach, or administrator say "do things the right way" again.
 

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We somehow currently have like 5 times as many scholarship PFs on campus as we do WRs so I'm extremely in favor of this idea.
He can't catch.
 

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Wagner would need to sit out a year to learn.
 

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Btw, please name players who have switched sports and contributed immediately.

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He has only played one year of football.
ah, that I did not know.
Really not surprising.

But even if had played all 4 years in hs, stepping on the practice field in July and contributing to the team in a meaningful way in September is highly unlikely. I know you have this romantic, backyard vision of football, but its just not real. Its hard. Lots to learn.

I think AW is an interesting prospect, and if he gave up basketball completely, sat out this year, he'd have a decent chance of playing his final two years.
 

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Btw, please name players who have switched sports and contributed immediately.

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Btw, please name players who have switched sports and contributed immediately.

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Bo Jackson
Tom Rusk
Tim Dwight
Russell Wilson
Bo Porter
those are just a few I thought of right away. theres many others.

Its football, not rocket science. Rookies play wr in the nfl all the time. Freshman wrs play plenty.
 

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Btw, please name players who have switched sports and contributed immediately.

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Bo Jackson
Tom Rusk
Tim Dwight
Russell Wilson
Bo Porter
those are just a few I thought of right away. theres many others.

Its football, not rocket science. Rookies play wr in the nfl all the time. Freshman wrs play plenty.
Those are terrible examples and poor analogies.

Bo played college baseball and minor league pro ball before playing for KC.

Rusk played football in hs, including some linebacker, before playing linebacker at iowa. He didnt switch sports, just positions, and to a position he at least had some experience.

I have no idea why you would include Dwight. He played hs football. He never switched sports.

Wilson is another weird example. He was a football and baseball star in hs, got drafted for baseball, played 93 minor league games, then played qb at nc state. He essentially missed one year of football. Always played qb.

Porter might be the only example that even comes close to making sense, but even he played all 4 years in hs football, and he had a lot more time to practice than AW.

Your nfl rookie comparison is weird. Your freshman wr comparison is forgetting that those guys played 4 years of hs ball and had a lot more time in the summer to work with the qb.
 

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you got me, Sport. It's real complex. Most those dudes in the nfl would be Rhodes scholars had they chosen a different path.
 

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You've mentioned many times that football isn't rocket science. I agree. It's not that. But it's definitely more complicated than you seem to want to think, and despite the evidence around you, you still continue with this same strange, overly simplistic view of the sport. It seems weird that for the past few years on this board there have been dozens of posts acknowledging the complexity of the offense, and for the receivers in particular. But I'm sure a career basketball player with one year experience in organized football could start working with the team in late July and contribute immediately. Pretty simple, really.
 

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It's either stupid easy or rocket science.
 

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You've mentioned many times that football isn't rocket science. I agree. It's not that. But it's definitely more complicated than you seem to want to think, and despite the evidence around you, you still continue with this same strange, overly simplistic view of the sport. It seems weird that for the past few years on this board there have been dozens of posts acknowledging the complexity of the offense, and for the receivers in particular. But I'm sure a career basketball player with one year experience in organized football could start working with the team in late July and contribute immediately. Pretty simple, really.
I don't recall saying he'd contribute immediately. Claiming he'd need to sit a year seems just as speculative. I'm guessing you don't know how quick he catches on or how smart he is.
 

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Oh, so he'd contribute by, what, week 5?
 

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Oh, so he'd contribute by, what, week 5?
he couldn't be any worse than some of the stiffs Iowa ran out there last year. Wagner is a very good athlete. A good coach can make it work. If the guys not smart, you dumb it down for him.

Like my buddy says(coach who took his hs team to the finals in Dome)"its not the Xs and Os, its the Jimmies and Joes. "
 

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Oh, so he'd contribute by, what, week 5?
he couldn't be any worse than some of the stiffs Iowa ran out there last year. Wagner is a very good athlete. A good coach can make it work. If the guys not smart, you dumb it down for him.

Like my buddy says(coach who took his hs team to the finals in Dome)"its not the Xs and Os, its the Jimmies and Joes. "
I've never heard that saying before. It's genius!

Want me to explain to you what it means?
 
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Btw, please name players who have switched sports and contributed immediately.

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Bo Jackson
Tom Rusk
Tim Dwight
Russell Wilson
Bo Porter
those are just a few I thought of right away. theres many others.

Its football, not rocket science. Rookies play wr in the nfl all the time. Freshman wrs play plenty.
Jimmy Graham and Antonio Gates would be the actual useful examples
 

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Btw, please name players who have switched sports and contributed immediately.

I'll hang up and listen.
Bo Jackson
Tom Rusk
Tim Dwight
Russell Wilson
Bo Porter
those are just a few I thought of right away. theres many others.

Its football, not rocket science. Rookies play wr in the nfl all the time. Freshman wrs play plenty.
Jimmy Graham and Antonio Gates would be the actual useful examples
Gates is the best example. He didnt play any college football, then had a pretty decent rookie season. He was a highly recruited football player out of hs though. Graham played one year of college football and only caught 21 passes for 217 yards.
 

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Btw, please name players who have switched sports and contributed immediately.

I'll hang up and listen.
Bo Jackson
Tom Rusk
Tim Dwight
Russell Wilson
Bo Porter
those are just a few I thought of right away. theres many others.

Its football, not rocket science. Rookies play wr in the nfl all the time. Freshman wrs play plenty.
Jimmy Graham and Antonio Gates would be the actual useful examples
Don't forget the starting OT for the Seahawks, Fant.
 

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That he only played one season and was immediately an all state player in one of the better states in the country for high school football seems pretty good
 

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That he only played one season and was immediately an all state player in one of the better states in the country for high school football seems pretty good
doesn't matter. It's very complicated. As evidenced by the Davis boys at ISU.
 
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