**2018 Iowa Basketball Offseason Thread**

[nolookpass]

You got to love the dudes that feel compelled to respond directly on Twitter to Tyler's post. LOL man have some pride

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Mature kid.

 

[douglasbader]

It's funny though, there were some small things earlier this year but all of this was really kicked off by Kakert and Brown on a podcast a few days ago and it caught fire from there.

The problem with how they handled it is they invited this sort of rampant speculation. If Kakert or Brown actually knew what they say they know now that they heard Cook planned to possibly go pro and hire an agent, then hinting specifically at that would have stopped any of this ridiculous transfer to Missouri shit.

 

[CamelTones]

Fuck I’m hungover

Here’s the other thing, and this is somewhat stupid but I assume you expect this from me. We just had a fucking horrible season. If cook bails I can totally see Pemsl and Kriener staying because they are iowa kids playing with their boy Jordan and they ain’t letting Iowa hoops go out like that. Add joe and Connor who is literally playing for his fathers pride and reputation and I think we see a feisty group next year who might need a tan but they can play.

These guys won the B10 outright, followed up with B10 tournament and went to back-to-back Final Fours:

http://uwbadgers.com/roster.aspx?roster=28&path=mbball

It's premature but not completely insane to see some of our guys fulfilling the roles:

Kaminsky- Garza
Dekker- Weiskamp
Koenig- bohannon
Hayes- Nunge???
Jackson- Moss/McCaffery

No one else on that team averaged more than 6 points/game. Obviously optimistic and easy to give most of the advantage to the Wisconsin guys but I doubt anyone saw those guys coming two years out. And within that time period we also add Patrick and maybe Carton. The Wisconsin teams also were not defense-optional.

I was thinking the same thing with regard to the roster with Cook as Hayes and Jordan as Gasser (not the donor) before all of this Cook speculation. Connor seems like a good comparison to Jackson IMO.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

You got to love the dudes that feel compelled to respond directly on Twitter to Tyler's post. LOL man have some pride

I don’t know, I used to make fun of this shit as well but now especially for people younger than me it’s pretty common place to interact with athletes.

 

[CamelTones]

If Nunge figures it out him and Garza are a perfect fit on offense. Both can step out so one doesn’t clog the lane for the other. You could run a lot of high low action with Wieskamp and bohannon shooting from the outside. Either have to hope Moss somehow figures it out or you start Connor and roll with the Aryan Race.

I still think Moss as your 5th option is ideal. Baer backs up Nunge, Kriener backs up Garza, Dailey is your 4th wing. Wagner gets spot minutes only when necessary.

Will never happen but if Pemsl stays you redshirt him to balance out the roster, he takes Baers spot the last 2 years while giving him a full year to get completely healthy and develop some sort of shot.

That’s a 9/10 man rotation with defined rolls assuming Cook is gone.

I was talking about what they would look like with the new strength and conditioning program.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Great case study in how rumors can gain a life of their own. Even for people that are usually connected. My comment yesterday literally came from someone on the football staff and they were convinced he was gone as were multiple other people within the program. In reality they probably heard the same bullshit everyone else did. Or, far more likely, cook changed his mind.

 

[douglasbader]

Great case study in how rumors can gain a life of their own. Even for people that are usually connected. My comment yesterday literally came from someone on the football staff and they were convinced he was gone as were multiple other people within the program. In reality they probably heard the same bullshit everyone else did. Or, far more likely, cook changed his mind.

I still think he mentally thinks he is done at Iowa, nothing he said in that post changes that. He clearly has a "plan" and logic would dictate that means going pro.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Great case study in how rumors can gain a life of their own. Even for people that are usually connected. My comment yesterday literally came from someone on the football staff and they were convinced he was gone as were multiple other people within the program. In reality they probably heard the same bullshit everyone else did. Or, far more likely, cook changed his mind.

I still think he mentally thinks he is done at Iowa, nothing he said in that post changes that. He clearly has a "plan" and logic would dictate that means going pro.

Plus technically he did not rule out a transfer, only to Missouri.

 

[douglasbader]

Great case study in how rumors can gain a life of their own. Even for people that are usually connected. My comment yesterday literally came from someone on the football staff and they were convinced he was gone as were multiple other people within the program. In reality they probably heard the same bullshit everyone else did. Or, far more likely, cook changed his mind.

I still think he mentally thinks he is done at Iowa, nothing he said in that post changes that. He clearly has a "plan" and logic would dictate that means going pro.

Plus technically he did not rule out a transfer, only to Missouri.

Correct, but unless that transfer is to roughly 4 blue chip schools, it also makes no sense.

 

[Shpadoinkle]

Great case study in how rumors can gain a life of their own. Even for people that are usually connected. My comment yesterday literally came from someone on the football staff and they were convinced he was gone as were multiple other people within the program. In reality they probably heard the same bullshit everyone else did. Or, far more likely, cook changed his mind.

I still think he mentally thinks he is done at Iowa, nothing he said in that post changes that. He clearly has a "plan" and logic would dictate that means going pro.

Eh...

 

[douglasbader]

Great case study in how rumors can gain a life of their own. Even for people that are usually connected. My comment yesterday literally came from someone on the football staff and they were convinced he was gone as were multiple other people within the program. In reality they probably heard the same bullshit everyone else did. Or, far more likely, cook changed his mind.

I still think he mentally thinks he is done at Iowa, nothing he said in that post changes that. He clearly has a "plan" and logic would dictate that means going pro.

Eh...

Well, there are only 4 options...

1. Stay at Iowa
2. Declare for the draft and don't hire an agent with the potential to stay at Iowa
3. Declare for the draft and hire an agent
4. Transfer

He seemed to rule out #4 and his comments also seem to rule out #1.

#2 is the most logical followed by #3

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

That statement doesn't rule out him being forced to transfer to Missouri against his will.

 

[KingJames]

Fuck I’m hungover

Here’s the other thing, and this is somewhat stupid but I assume you expect this from me. We just had a fucking horrible season. If cook bails I can totally see Pemsl and Kriener staying because they are iowa kids playing with their boy Jordan and they ain’t letting Iowa hoops go out like that. Add joe and Connor who is literally playing for his fathers pride and reputation and I think we see a feisty group next year who might need a tan but they can play.

These guys won the B10 outright, followed up with B10 tournament and went to back-to-back Final Fours:

http://uwbadgers.com/roster.aspx?roster=28&path=mbball

It's premature but not completely insane to see some of our guys fulfilling the roles:

Kaminsky- Garza
Dekker- Weiskamp
Koenig- bohannon
Hayes- Nunge???
Jackson- Moss/McCaffery

No one else on that team averaged more than 6 points/game. Obviously optimistic and easy to give most of the advantage to the Wisconsin guys but I doubt anyone saw those guys coming two years out. And within that time period we also add Patrick and maybe Carton. The Wisconsin teams also were not defense-optional.

L O Fucking L. It is absolutely completely insane to compare that Iowa team to a team that went to back-to-back Final 4's.

 

[LifelongHawk]

Hooray, TC is doing exactly what made sense since he was 15, balance college ball vs pro opportunities. Go to the combine and see what's up, hooray. Good on ya studly!

JFC, fun watching LWade talk about this as a case study in rumors. Wonder if Pharty and Doc and Kakert et al will similarly try to go RATT. Especially Hardy with his done deal since Novermber bullshit.

But none of them will be able to come across as anything but shit stirring fools as always.

AFter all, they just can't help themselves from self-importantly wallowing in more shit, and will respond to TC saying "that was never the plan" by saying something like this:

Or, far more likely, cook changed his mind.

 

[Harlan]

I bet the replies to that tweet are awful.

 

[Harlan]

I bet the replies to that tweet are awful.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Yep, there it is for sure. He's going pro and the only question will he leave himself the out to come back. Either way, he isn't planning on transferring or sitting out and that is the best case scenario for Iowa when it comes to how this looks to recruits.

Triple circle!!!

 

[Shpadoinkle]

I still think he mentally thinks he is done at Iowa, nothing he said in that post changes that. He clearly has a "plan" and logic would dictate that means going pro.

Eh...

Well, there are only 4 options...

1. Stay at Iowa
2. Declare for the draft and don't hire an agent with the potential to stay at Iowa
3. Declare for the draft and hire an agent
4. Transfer

He seemed to rule out #4 and his comments also seem to rule out #1.

#2 is the most logical followed by #3

You listed them in the most logical order. (I was questioning his logic, not yours)

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

Here's a good ol' hedging Kakert sequence

On Sunday he wrote

Still stand by my over/under for transfers at three this off-season.

Yesterday he wrote

I said my guess would be three leaving the program...that includes possibly just leaving for the NBA. It always did. Leaving is leaving.

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

Here's a good ol' hedging Kakert sequence

On Sunday he wrote

Still stand by my over/under for transfers at three this off-season.

Yesterday he wrote

I said my guess would be three leaving the program...that includes possibly just leaving for the NBA. It always did. Leaving is leaving.

What a liar and a scumbag.

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

From Leistikow’s Twitter:

Luka Garza finished his first year at Iowa with exactly 400 points, fourth-most by a freshman in school history behind Ricky Davis (464), Tyler Smith (461) & Jess Settles (414). Feel free to be excited about @LukaG_55.

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

From Leistikow’s Twitter:

Luka Garza finished his first year at Iowa with exactly 400 points, fourth-most by a freshman in school history behind Ricky Davis (464), Tyler Smith (461) & Jess Settles (414). Feel free to be excited about @LukaG_55.

I am excited. Thanks!!!!!!!

 

[Revolver]

From Leistikow’s Twitter:

Luka Garza finished his first year at Iowa with exactly 400 points, fourth-most by a freshman in school history behind Ricky Davis (464), Tyler Smith (461) & Jess Settles (414). Feel free to be excited about @LukaG_55.

Halo’s been on board much of the Big Ten season.

 

[Herky823]

From Leistikow’s Twitter:

Luka Garza finished his first year at Iowa with exactly 400 points, fourth-most by a freshman in school history behind Ricky Davis (464), Tyler Smith (461) & Jess Settles (414). Feel free to be excited about @LukaG_55.

I am excited. Thanks!!!!!!!

Bet ya a million bucks he passes Tyler next year.

 

[Carter Page]

All the dumbass writers and posters who suddenly knew for months that Cook was leaving for Mizzou and it was an open secret since November need to eat some crow and then go fuck themselves hard.

Wasn't Harty saying this? Can he finally just go away and stay away now, shamed for all time?

 

[Carter Page]

Here's a good ol' hedging Kakert sequence

On Sunday he wrote

Still stand by my over/under for transfers at three this off-season.

Yesterday he wrote

I said my guess would be three leaving the program...that includes possibly just leaving for the NBA. It always did. Leaving is leaving.

Once a douche, always a douche.

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

All the dumbass writers and posters who suddenly knew for months that Cook was leaving for Mizzou and it was an open secret since November need to eat some crow and then go fuck themselves hard.

Wasn't Harty saying this? Can he finally just go away and stay away now, shamed for all time?

Sources probably = Kakert.

 

[Fletch]

All the dumbass writers and posters who suddenly knew for months that Cook was leaving for Mizzou and it was an open secret since November need to eat some crow and then go fuck themselves hard.

Wasn't Harty saying this? Can he finally just go away and stay away now, shamed for all time?

Sources probably = Kakert.

Kakert new he wasn’t going to Missouri two weeks ago.

 

[Verbal]

Anyone who pays any of these goobers actual money for access to their content is an idiot. They don't know jack shit.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I enjoy the conversation on the rivals boards but god this was a bad whiff by everyone.

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

I enjoy the conversation on the rivals boards but god this was a bad whiff by everyone.

Yep. Even Blair Sanderson was "liking" posts having Cook headed to Missouri.

 

[Slidewilly]

Cook's tweet didn't rule out a transfer to somewhere other than Mizzou, but I assume he's only focused on the NBA. Now someone needs to figure out a way to block calls between Cook and Jayson Tatum.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Sounds like some people need to suck a fat one

 

[Geese]

Wasn't Harty saying this? Can he finally just go away and stay away now, shamed for all time?

Sources probably = Kakert.

Kakert new he wasn’t going to Missouri two weeks ago.

 

[Fletch]

Sources probably = Kakert.

Kakert new he wasn’t going to Missouri two weeks ago.

 

[Slidewilly]

FWIW, the same (apparent) insider who was quoted by Hiawatha a couple of days ago about Cook's plans posted that Cook was told this morning that there was no chance he would get a release to go to Mizzou.

 

[Revolver]

FWIW, the same (apparent) insider who was quoted by Hiawatha a couple of days ago about Cook's plans posted that Cook was told this morning that there was no chance he would get a release to go to Mizzou.

In other words....

 

[nolookpass]

Former Hoops player is telling us that Wagner is seriously considering going out for football

 

[Hawkstrat]

Is it a secret who that player i

 

[Revolver]

Is it a secret who that player i

It can’t be a hot rumor unless it is shrouded in mystery.

 

[TurdBurgler]

Google says that Euro leagues pay high end $20,000 a month and more typically in the 4-10k a month range. If I were Cook (and I'm not, but if I were...) I would go to Finland, make $80,000/year and bang hot Finnish women for a couple years.

The real question for him is what best improves his chances of playing in the NBA, where the real money is. Its a long shot either way, but he needs to be a better defender & rebounder to make it as an undersized 4. His best comp would be Kenneth Faried.

 

[Geese]

Former Hoops player is telling us that Wagner is seriously considering going out for football

Dochterman is furiously pulling his pud tonight.

 

[Revolver]

Former Hoops player is telling us that Wagner is seriously considering going out for football

Dochterman is furiously pulling his pud tonight.

Gross.

 

[Slidewilly]

nvm

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Former Hoops player is telling us that Wagner is seriously considering going out for football

I heard this from a current valley coach who is good friends with a former hoops player.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Former Hoops player is telling us that Wagner is seriously considering going out for football

I heard this from a current valley coach who is good friends with a former hoops player.

Does his name rhyme with reff morner?

 

[Slidewilly]

nvm

 

[bigazzturkeylegs]

Would that open up a scholarship? He's not getting one from the football team.

 

[CamelTones]

If he plays both sports I believe the scholarship counts against football. But I’ve been wrong a lot.