**2021-2022 Iowa Basketball Season Thread**

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You're talking about three really good-to-great players combined? C'mon, Keegan's good, really good with the potential to be great...but let's not get carried away before the conference season starts.
 

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You're talking about three really good-to-great players combined? C'mon, Keegan's good, really good with the potential to be great...but let's not get carried away before the conference season starts.
Read what I wrote again.
 

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In my memory, healthy Ronnie > '21-'22 Keegan, but that's about it. Enjoy him while he's here.
 
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Doug is correct. Murray has an instinct & feel for the game, that is as good as anyone who’s played at Iowa.
 

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Who else from the Metro is going to Hilton this year? Normally I refuse to step in there - but only one Saturday conference game in Carver this year.
 

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Sports Illustrated with a new mock draft out. Keegan is at #9.

There’s a case to be made that Murray has been the best player in college basketball so far, and while Iowa hasn’t played anyone of quality yet, it’s hilarious in hindsight that Murray was so under-utilized as a freshman. While he’s on the older end for a potential lottery pick, Murray is gathering real steam among scouts right now with his sheer productivity, appealing athletic tools and versatile two-way skill set. The NBA continues to place a premium on skilled, jumbo forwards with well-rounded complementary skills, and Murray has also taken a major step forward as a scorer, while doing most of his damage in the flow of the game. Teams will be closely monitoring his progress as a shooter, but he appears to be trending in the right direction on that front. Murray should be able to defend wings and bigs, impact the passing lanes with his length, rebound and play in transition, capitalize on easy baskets and knock down open shots. There may be some debate about his upside, as he’s not a shot-creator or playmaker by nature, but most of what he’s good at is highly translatable to NBA value.
 

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Sports Illustrated with a new mock draft out. Keegan is at #9.

There’s a case to be made that Murray has been the best player in college basketball so far, and while Iowa hasn’t played anyone of quality yet, it’s hilarious in hindsight that Murray was so under-utilized as a freshman. While he’s on the older end for a potential lottery pick, Murray is gathering real steam among scouts right now with his sheer productivity, appealing athletic tools and versatile two-way skill set. The NBA continues to place a premium on skilled, jumbo forwards with well-rounded complementary skills, and Murray has also taken a major step forward as a scorer, while doing most of his damage in the flow of the game. Teams will be closely monitoring his progress as a shooter, but he appears to be trending in the right direction on that front. Murray should be able to defend wings and bigs, impact the passing lanes with his length, rebound and play in transition, capitalize on easy baskets and knock down open shots. There may be some debate about his upside, as he’s not a shot-creator or playmaker by nature, but most of what he’s good at is highly translatable to NBA value.
the negatives in the last sentence seem to be jumping the gun
 
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Was he? As a true freshman he played 44% of available minutes last year. I guess he could have taken minutes from Connor, but that would have totally changed how the team played with Garza on the floor.
It's revisionist history, much like the people who claim Kittle was under-utilized at Iowa while ignoring the fact that Kittle wasn't even physically ready to play until his redshirt junior year and then played injured for most of his senior year.

Keegan looked like a very athletic baby deer last year, just figuring out on the fly how athletic and how talented he actually was. This year he is much more polished as a scorer, both off the dribble and from the post. The wider sports world is apparently incapable of realizing that the guy playing last year wasn't the same guy playing this year.
 

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It's revisionist history, much like the people who claim Kittle was under-utilized at Iowa while ignoring the fact that Kittle wasn't even physically ready to play until his redshirt junior year and then played injured for most of his senior year.

Keegan looked like a very athletic baby deer last year, just figuring out on the fly how athletic and how talented he actually was. This year he is much more polished as a scorer, both off the dribble and from the post. The wider sports world is apparently incapable of realizing that the guy playing last year wasn't the same guy playing this year.
it is the same guy though.
 

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It's revisionist history, much like the people who claim Kittle was under-utilized at Iowa while ignoring the fact that Kittle wasn't even physically ready to play until his redshirt junior year and then played injured for most of his senior year.

Keegan looked like a very athletic baby deer last year, just figuring out on the fly how athletic and how talented he actually was. This year he is much more polished as a scorer, both off the dribble and from the post. The wider sports world is apparently incapable of realizing that the guy playing last year wasn't the same guy playing this year.
And he hasn’t played any good teams this year.
 

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Ash is just padding the stat sheet look at all those minutes
 
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It's revisionist history, much like the people who claim Kittle was under-utilized at Iowa while ignoring the fact that Kittle wasn't even physically ready to play until his redshirt junior year and then played injured for most of his senior year.

Keegan looked like a very athletic baby deer last year, just figuring out on the fly how athletic and how talented he actually was. This year he is much more polished as a scorer, both off the dribble and from the post. The wider sports world is apparently incapable of realizing that the guy playing last year wasn't the same guy playing this year.
Also, Keegan is allowed to improve as a player. It's silly to assume he would be the same player last year as he is now
 

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He’d get 33% more playing time if he didn’t act like a sideshow clown every time he set foot on the floor.
He’s like the kid who’s the worst guy on a 10 year old rec team who comes in at the end of the game, launches air balls and does everything to get attention while his mom yells incessantly.
 

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Bring in Bart Casey as his personal coach.
 

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Sports Illustrated with a new mock draft out. Keegan is at #9.

There’s a case to be made that Murray has been the best player in college basketball so far, and while Iowa hasn’t played anyone of quality yet, it’s hilarious in hindsight that Murray was so under-utilized as a freshman. While he’s on the older end for a potential lottery pick, Murray is gathering real steam among scouts right now with his sheer productivity, appealing athletic tools and versatile two-way skill set. The NBA continues to place a premium on skilled, jumbo forwards with well-rounded complementary skills, and Murray has also taken a major step forward as a scorer, while doing most of his damage in the flow of the game. Teams will be closely monitoring his progress as a shooter, but he appears to be trending in the right direction on that front. Murray should be able to defend wings and bigs, impact the passing lanes with his length, rebound and play in transition, capitalize on easy baskets and knock down open shots. There may be some debate about his upside, as he’s not a shot-creator or playmaker by nature, but most of what he’s good at is highly translatable to NBA value.
"skilled, jumbo forward" is not a term I've heard before. I assume it's a stretch 4 that can dribble?
 

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I don’t see anything about Murray that qualifies as jumbo, except, you know
 

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Wade was a no stretch zero in college for the fucking record
 

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That guy literally created a fake Twitter handle for the sole purpose of not getting Tyler Ulis to come to Iowa.
 

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Will Joe "the Key" Toussaint leave early for the NBA?
Maybe, maybe not.


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