**2021 Iowa Basketball Offseason Thread**

[L. Wade Childress]

Question 1: Who leads the team in scoring next season?

Question 2: Who leads the team in rebounding next season?

Question 3: Who gets more minutes next season, Mulvey or Ogundele?

Question 4: Rank these three in terms of the number of minutes that they will play next season: Ulis, Perkins, Kris Murray

Question 5: Who is second on the team in made 3s next season? (assuming bohannon is #1)

murray at 11-12 ppg

uncle fil at around 6

Mulvey 10, JO 8

Ulis, Perkins, murray

Sandfort or ke murray

 

[Brad Wesley]

Kenyon gets it.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

I don’t think Fran would have brought him back without buy in from the other guys.

It's easy to buy in right now. Maybe Fran will surprise me and bohannon gets limited minutes but I really doubt it. And maybe bohannon won't be a douche all season long but I really doubt it. This could potentially blow up in Fran's face.

 

[Brad Wesley]

It's easy to buy in right now. Maybe Fran will surprise me and bohannon gets limited minutes but I really doubt it. And maybe bohannon won't be a douche all season long but I really doubt it. This could potentially blow up in Fran's face.

I assume Fran told him there will be no fucking around this year.

When Jordan made mention of walking of the court and not playing round one of the tourney, that should’ve ended any chances of him coming back.

 

[Verbal]

I assume Fran told him there will be no fucking around this year.

I assume he didn't. He's going to put up with Jordan's shit in exchange for some reliable 3 point shooting.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

It's easy to buy in right now. Maybe Fran will surprise me and bohannon gets limited minutes but I really doubt it. And maybe bohannon won't be a douche all season long but I really doubt it. This could potentially blow up in Fran's face.

Or it couldn’t.

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

If we beat Iowa State, I hope he pulls his pants down at mid court and sprays diarrhea everywhere.

 

[Brad Wesley]

I assume he didn't. He's going to put up with Jordan's shit in exchange for some reliable 3 point shooting.

I think Fran was happy with Jordan moving on with his life. I don’t think he was begging him to return. Fran has no obligation to appease Jordan.

 

[Alan Lomax]

I think Fran was happy with Jordan moving on with his life. I don’t think he was begging him to return. Fran has no obligation to appease Jordan.

I think Fran likes him. Easily one of the closest adult relationships in JBo’s life. Suggesting he plays the 2 and gets his shots is great for next year’s team that will need shooting. I agree in hoping he sprays stool all over Hilton, and that iowa gets matched up with Kentucky in the ncaa tourney and butt fuck CJ, his uncle, and coach Cal. Ideally every big ten team iowa plays cries and cries that he’s still here as he shoots 6-10 threes a game making 40+% of them. Fuck the haters.

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

The good thing about Jordan is he won’t be a pussy and pass up open 3’s like the bitchass Wildcat that left. bohannon will have a couple 1-9 games from 3 and get beat on defense and fans will get pissed. He will break the all time big ten 3 point record and he won’t deserve it. But I think there’s a net positive to him coming back considering the lack of shooting. If he can control his twattitude.

 

[Brad Wesley]

I think Fran likes him. Easily one of the closest adult relationships in JBo’s life. Suggesting he plays the 2 and gets his shots is great for next year’s team that will need shooting. I agree in hoping he sprays stool all over Hilton, and that iowa gets matched up with Kentucky in the ncaa tourney and butt fuck CJ, his uncle, and coach Cal. Ideally every big ten team iowa plays cries and cries that he’s still here as he shoots 6-10 threes a game making 40+% of them. Fuck the haters.

I love the NCAA scenario against UK. Gives Jordan another chance to walk off the court in protest. How awesome would that be! Really show the NCAA who the boss is.

 

[Lee Beevers]

I love the NCAA scenario against UK. Gives Jordan another chance to walk off the court in protest. How awesome would that be! Really show the NCAA who the boss is.

you seem very pissed about a scenario that didn’t actually happen.

he’s an immature, rich kid, douchebag. Fortunately for most of us, we aren’t judged solely on our behavior when we were 22 or whatever.

 

[Alan Lomax]

I love the NCAA scenario against UK. Gives Jordan another chance to walk off the court in protest. How awesome would that be! Really show the NCAA who the boss is.

Butt hurt about something that didn’t happen. Fun.

 

[Brad Wesley]

you seem very pissed about a scenario that didn’t actually happen.

he’s an immature, rich kid, douchebag. Fortunately for most of us, we aren’t judged solely on our behavior when we were 22 or whatever.

My point is that I’m not certain that Jordan’s goals align with Fran’s.

Fran had a legitimate (most thought prior to Oregon game) final four team and Jordan is willing to fuck around and risk a historic run to make his point.

Ultimately Fran has all the power in this situation as he can sit Jordan for any reason. As previously mentioned, who else was Iowa going to get at this point? I don’t think anyone was excited about the DIII guy.

 

[MikeyJoe]

My point is that I’m not certain that Jordan’s goals align with Fran’s.

Fran had a legitimate (most thought prior to Oregon game) final four team and Jordan is willing to fuck around and risk a historic run to make his point.

Ultimately Fran has all the power in this situation as he can sit Jordan for any reason. As previously mentioned, who else was Iowa going to get at this point? I don’t think anyone was excited about the DIII guy.

bohannon is annoying, but he didn't actually do the thing you're annoyed with him for being willing to do, so?

 

[The Full Monte]

It's easy to buy in right now. Maybe Fran will surprise me and bohannon gets limited minutes but I really doubt it. And maybe bohannon won't be a douche all season long but I really doubt it. This could potentially blow up in Fran's face.

Jordan needs to spend the offseason working on becoming a catch and shoot guy. This changes his role quote a bit, but hopefully with a JT/Ulis at the 1...it creates a lot of open looks for him. But he isn’t going to have the same saunter down the court/launch from 59 feet opportunities

 

[L. Wade Childress]

If they have to guard him from 30 feet it will make things that much easier for keegan and Patrick

 

[WCFHawkeye]

It was pretty easy to guard Fredrick when one knew as long as a defender was within 10 feet he wasn't going to shoot.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

If they have to guard him from 30 feet it will make things that much easier for keegan and Patrick

Some people don't understand the importance of floor spacing. Those same people will also probably bitch if 3 point shooting %s are down because Garza isn't around to draw attention and provide open looks for teammates.

 

[bigazzturkeylegs]

bohannon essentially boycotted the Oregon game.

 

[Revolver]

Man, Kenyon definitely fucks. I can get on board with his lineup.

 

[kenos]

Jordan needs to spend the offseason working on becoming a catch and shoot guy. This changes his role quote a bit, but hopefully with a JT/Ulis at the 1...it creates a lot of open looks for him. But he isn’t going to have the same saunter down the court/launch from 59 feet opportunities

He can already do this -- he just needs to make it his go-to. There were plenty of times he got a pass off a kick out/ball reversal/pick and roll/whatever and then got off a three with his quick release.

He's going to have the greenest light in Iowa history. That may or may not be a good thing.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

He can already do this -- he just needs to make it his go-to. There were plenty of times he got a pass off a kick out/ball reversal/pick and roll/whatever and then got off a three with his quick release.

He's going to have the greenest light in Iowa history. That may or may not be a good thing.

I'd say for a guy who has shot 42%, 43%, 38%, 33%(shortened, hip surgery season), and 39% from 3 over his career it will be fine

 

[kenos]

I'd say for a guy who has shot 42%, 43%, 38%, 33%(shortened, hip surgery season), and 39% from 3 over his career it will be fine

He's a fine 3pt shooter. He's streaky. So, you just let him shoot -- you never know when he's going to go all Justin Johnson. If he goes 2-9, there you go.

 

[rodg12]

 

[Hawk_Kegmasters]

That seems very good.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

I'm curious what they looked like together defensively. Has to have been better than the bohannon/Fredrick combination.

 

[Herky823]

Anyone else play with them the majority of those minutes?

 

[kenos]

I'm curious what they looked like together defensively. Has to have been better than the bohannon/Fredrick combination.

better containment at the point forgives other sins

 

[kenos]

Anyone else play with them the majority of those minutes?

probably some guy with one eyebrow, who had a pretty high % at the rim

 

[eclone]

That seems like a miniscule number of possessions for a whole year. Why didn't Fran run them at the 1 and 2 more often, especially when CJ missed those games?

 

[StinkyMcFadden]

I'm all in!!!!

 

[The Tin Man]

Question 1: Who leads the team in scoring next season?

Question 2: Who leads the team in rebounding next season?

Question 3: Who gets more minutes next season, Mulvey or Ogundele?

Question 4: Rank these three in terms of the number of minutes that they will play next season: Ulis, Perkins, Kris Murray

Question 5: Who is second on the team in made 3s next season? (assuming bohannon is #1)

 

[WCFHawkeye]

I am probably remembering wrong, and not sure how to look it up, but it seemed Fredrick did all right the first 10 or 15 minutes of the game, and then almost never scored in the second half.

Someone who knows how to look up CJ's shots/attempts per half confirm if I am a dumbass or not (I am, but maybe not on this topic).

bohannon will at least keep shooting in the second half if he isn't pouting on the bench. That would be a big net plus. bohannon will also get to the free throw line much more often.

 

[MikeyJoe]

That seems like a miniscule number of possessions for a whole year. Why didn't Fran run them at the 1 and 2 more often, especially when CJ missed those games?

It wasn't even one of Iowa's top 10 lineups.

 

[kenos]

bohannon will at least keep shooting in the second half if he isn't pouting on the bench.

bohannon will keep shooting after he falls asleep that night. That's one of the things you have to like about the kid.

 

[26.2]

you seem very pissed about a scenario that didn’t actually happen.

he’s an immature, rich kid, douchebag. Fortunately for most of us, we aren’t judged solely on our behavior when we were 22 or whatever.

I'm still judging you on what you did when you were that age

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

I'm still judging you on what you did when you were that age

Wasn’t the third one recent?

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

Also deadbeat /= foolish 23 year old.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

That seems like a miniscule number of possessions for a whole year. Why didn't Fran run them at the 1 and 2 more often, especially when CJ missed those games?

Because cherry picked stupid stats like that are essentially meaningless. Might as well chart how many games we won when Ogundele sharted on the sidelines or how many games we won the day after Austin Ash didn't get laid the night before.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

He's a fine 3pt shooter. He's streaky. So, you just let him shoot -- you never know when he's going to go all Justin Johnson. If he goes 2-9, there you go.

LOL, jorbo is not a streaky shooter. He’s the best shooter in school history. He’s a career 40% shooter despite a ridiculous quantity and degree of difficulty.

 

[Stomper15]

I don’t think Fran would have brought him back without buy in from the other guys.

Agreed. And throughout the summer practices, they will be figuring out what lineups work and what lineups don't. There will be a focus on building Joe T and Jordan's chemistry -- especially Jordan's comfort playing off the ball. During practices, I would expect Jordan only to play point if either Joe T or Ahron is out for a session.

Secondly, I anticipate a ton of Joe T / Ahron drive and kicks to a wide-open perimeter player (Jordan, Rebraca, Keegan, Kris, and Patrick). There won't be a big clogging the lane to post which will open up Joe T's and Ahron's ability to drive and kick. Even though you don't have pure shooters like Wieskamp, CJ, and Garza, there will still be a ton of pick and pop 3pts attempted by Keegan, Kris, and Rebraca. To some extent, I see Iowa's offense either living or dying by the 3pt and the volume of 3pts attempted to remain the same or go up. Either you are going to let Joe dribble by you and lay it in or you will have a wide-open player shooting a 3pt.

I think this will still be a 75+ points per game team which would have been good enough for Top 5 (in the conference) this season with improved defense due to length and athleticism. There are still going to be bonehead defensive lapses by players like Jordan and Patrick, but that's how it goes with Fran. 8-10 seed or a first 4 team. The conference is going to be a gauntlet next year with your likely top 6 (in random order): Michigan, Purdue, Ohio State, Maryland, Michigan State, and Illinois. The next tier will have Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Rutgers.

There are lots of minutes to be had and it's not going to be like last season where the core starters were playing 25-30 minutes per game so it should be a good opportunity for the young guys to grow. There will be plenty of minutes for Ahron and Tony.

 

[Hawkstrat]

Agreed. And throughout the summer practices, they will be figuring out what lineups work and what lineups don't. There will be a focus on building Joe T and Jordan's chemistry -- especially Jordan's comfort playing off the ball. During practices, I would expect Jordan only to play point if either Joe T or Ahron is out for a session.

Secondly, I anticipate a ton of Joe T / Ahron drive and kicks to a wide-open perimeter player (Jordan, Rebraca, Keegan, Kris, and Patrick). There is not going to be a big clogging the lane to post which will open up Joe T's and Ahron's ability to drive and kick. Even though you don't have pure shooters like Weiskamp, CJ, and Garza, there will still be a ton of pick and pop 3pts attempted by Keegan, Kris, and Rebraca. To some extent, I see Iowa's offense either living or dying by the 3pt and the volume of 3pts attempted to remain the same or go up. Either you are going to let Joe dribble by you and lay it in or you will have a wide-open player shooting a 3pt.

I think this will still be a 75+ points per game team which would have been good enough for Top 5 (in the conference) this season with improved defense due to length and athleticism. There are still going to be bonehead defensive lapses by players like Jordan and Patrick, but that's how it goes with Fran. 8-10 seed or a first 4 team. The conference is going to be a gauntlet next year with your likely top 6 (in random order): Michigan, Purdue, Ohio State, Maryland, Michigan State, and Illinois. The next tier will have Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Rutgers.

There are lots of minutes to be had and it's not going to be like last season where the core starters were playing 25-30 minutes per game so it should be a good opportunity for the young guys to grow. There will be plenty of minutes for Ahron and Tony.

I'm not going to read this.

 

[The Tin Man]

bohannon will keep shooting after he falls asleep that night. That's one of the things you have to like about the kid.

We talkin’ nocturnal emissions in here?

 

[kenos]

@L. Wade Childress is right. My perception was that J Bo tends to get his 3s in bunches, but that's not borne out by his B10 boxes this last season.

Some hot nights, one really bad night, and two rough games back to back, but the average JBo night was pretty close to 40% on 5 or 6 attempts.

3/8
3/9
6/9
3/5
6/9
4/7
3/5
0/8
2/5
1/3
4/8
3/7
3/5
1/5
1/4
2/6
2/6
2/5
8/12
3/9
5/13

 

[Dr. Zaius]

We talkin’ nocturnal emissions in here?

ISSI

 

[Verbal]

Well there it is.

 

[HerkyHopeful]

 

[The Full Monte]

Well there it is.

Such a fucking twat

 

[Shpadoinkle]