**2025 Iowa Offseason & Coaching Search Thread***

[Gushawk]

I don’t think it will exceed the early Dr Tom years for those of us old enough to remember.

It will be a marked improvement over Fran in terms of mental and physical toughness, and that’s enough for me.

 

[Shawneemicks]

If his teams don’t play like giant pussies that’s enough for me

 

[Shawneemicks]

Limit vacations to the off season & lifetime contract is totally fine

 

[Gushawk]

I don’t think they’ll be populated with giant pussies, which is a good start.

 

[Shawneemicks]

I don’t think they’ll be populated with giant pussies, which is a good start.

Agreed

 

[Hawk&Balls]

So when do we start getting some of these players we need

 

[Geese]

So when do we start getting some of these players we need

When you start donating to swarm

 

[Hawk&Balls]

 

[Fletch]

I don’t think it will exceed the early Dr Tom years for those of us old enough to remember.

It will be a marked improvement over Fran in terms of mental and physical toughness, and that’s enough for me.

I do remember.

As long as he doesn’t leave quickly, Ben McCollum will reach at least 1 Final Four with Iowa.

Halo GOLD.

 

[Fletch]

By the way, mentioning Halo Gold in your predictions posts extends automatic immunity from future mockery.

You’re welcome for that lifehack.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I don’t think it will exceed the early Dr Tom years for those of us old enough to remember.

It will be a marked improvement over Fran in terms of mental and physical toughness, and that’s enough for me.

I think Fran did about as good a job as can be done as far as putting us in a position to win meaningful games. He just couldn’t quite find the consistency or timing.

I am excited to see if a different approach works any better in March. I still think the toughness shit is a cop out and lazy description of too many white guys. The lack of rebounding and defense that we loathed was offset by an offense that far exceeded our talent. There’s only so much you can squeeze out if any given player or group. This hire isn’t changing that.

 

[Gushawk]

*soft skinny white guys

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I struggle to look at guys like Aaron White, Kris Murray, Jorbo, or Sandfort, who far exceeded our wildest projections, and think “man, they were soft”.

they were coached to emphasis scoring over rebounding or defense. Thats it.

 

[Shawneemicks]

 

[rodg12]

I think Fran did about as good a job as can be done as far as putting us in a position to win meaningful games. He just couldn’t quite find the consistency or timing.

I am excited to see if a different approach works any better in March. I still think the toughness shit is a cop out and lazy description of too many white guys. The lack of rebounding and defense that we loathed was offset by an offense that far exceeded our talent. There’s only so much you can squeeze out if any given player or group. This hire isn’t changing that.

Fuck off.

He coached a team with 3 NBA players on it and couldn't get out of the first round of the NCAA tournament.

 

[Gushawk]

Sandfort was a huge soft pussy. Defended like shit, always. Below average rebounder. Cried in the locker room. Laid on the floor for multiple seconds after a turnover in the waning moments of a close loss while the other team scored. Good riddance.

Jorbo hot garbage at everything related to PG play except shooting.

They belong nowhere in a sentence with Aaron White. Or even Kris Murray.

 

[Thanksgiving Dinner]

Fuck off.

He coached a team with 3 NBA players on it and couldn't get out of the first round of the NCAA tournament.

He got out of the first round of the tournament 4 times

 

[maxinquaye]

Wow, Iowa hasn’t been soft is quite the take.

 

[MikeyJoe]

Scoring and rebounding and defense and not mutually exclusive.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

He got out of the first round of the tournament 4 times

 

[Silky Johnson]

I struggle to look at guys like Aaron White, Kris Murray, Jorbo, or Sandfort, who far exceeded our wildest projections, and think “man, they were soft”.

they were coached to emphasis scoring over rebounding or defense. Thats it.

I take exception with bohannon but otherwise agree. White, Murray, Sandfort, Weiskamp, etc would have fit in just fine on any of the Bo Ryan Wisconsin teams that went far. The defense on most of the teams they played on sucked because Fran needlessly neglected it and guys were clueless, but it’s not like those guys weren’t perfectly capable Big 10 players.

And under McCollum that old Wisconsin style is basically the template.

 

[Gushawk]

It is harder to be good on offense when you’re trying your ass off on defense, but Fran’s philosophical and strength and conditioning program struck an awful and often embarrassing balance in that regard.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Scoring and rebounding and defense and not mutually exclusive.

Of course not, but you are limited by talent. And our talent level is not gonna be any higher for at least a couple years. It will probably be worse.

 

[rodg12]

He got out of the first round of the tournament 4 times

My bad. Meant second.

 

[Fletch]

Fuck off.

He coached a team with 3 NBA players on it and couldn't get out of the first round of the NCAA tournament.

Four, and actually 2nd round.

McCollum would have had a great chance at the Final Four with that team.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

It is harder to be good on offense when you’re trying your ass off on defense, but Fran’s philosophical and strength and conditioning program struck an awful and often embarrassing balance in that regard.

I totally agree with this. It has nothing to do with being soft. You seem to look at guys like Sandfort in a negative light when in fact they squeeze every ounce of production out of their God-given talent. It’s not their fault that Fran recruited them.

Freeman? Dembele? Patrick? CJ? Yes, those guys are soft, and they didn’t last.

 

[Shawneemicks]

It’s amazing to see how LWades brain fails him

 

[Hawkstrat]

Four, and actually 2nd round.

McCollum would have had a great chance at the Final Four with that team.

Ben would have them in the NBA playoffs. He's magic!

 

[kenos]

Fran’s philosophical and strength and conditioning program struck an awful and often embarrassing balance in that regard.

As I've mentioned previously, I work with a guy who was a colleague of Fran's S&C coach, at another school. The coach knew what to do -- Fran wouldn't let him. Fran's S&C philosophy is stuck in 1985.

 

[Fletch]

Ben would have them in the NBA playoffs. He's magic!

You didn’t end with Halo Gold. That might come back to bite you.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

The last few years, effort isn't even the problem. They can try all they want, but they had no fucking clue what they were supposed to be doing on defense.

 

[Hawkstrat]

You didn’t end with Halo Gold. That might come back to bite you.

I think he's going to do a good job.

 

[Herbie2]

The last few years, effort isn't even the problem. They can try all they want, but they had no fucking clue what they were supposed to be doing on defense.

The high ball screen defense they deployed at times was beyond baffling.

 

[Gushawk]

I totally agree with this. It has nothing to do with being soft. You seem to look at guys like Sandfort in a negative light when in fact they squeeze every ounce of production out of their God-given talent. It’s not their fault that Fran recruited them.

Freeman? Dembele? Patrick? CJ? Yes, those guys are soft, and they didn’t last.

neither Sandfort got noticeably stronger in Iowa City, if anything Peyton got skinnier.

I don’t think he had a ton of potential to begin with, but I don’t think he tried all that hard to improve his limitations, which is consistent with his combine effort.

He also cried , whined and laid on the floor like a bitch.

 

[Gushawk]

In short, I’m happy we’re Fart Free and will not be rooting for them
from here on out.

 

[26.2]

As I've mentioned previously, I work with a guy who was a colleague of Fran's S&C coach, at another school. The coach knew what to do -- Fran wouldn't let him. Fran's S&C philosophy is stuck in 1985.

Were you ever able to ask him for Fran's autograph????

 

[maxinquaye]

You could say the Sadfarts were reason for the downfall of Fran. Thanks to the Sadfarts for your weak efforts!

 

[Iowatheltics]

Payton played with a lot of injuries that many of us were unaware of until recently. So I would definitely not portray him like that.

 

[Herbie2]

Payton played with a lot of injuries that many of us were unaware of until recently. So I would definitely not portray him like that.

The strained vagina was common knowledge.

 

[Gushawk]

Payton played with a lot of injuries that many of us were unaware of until recently. So I would definitely not portray him like that.

Perhaps he should have cultivated muscle mass rather than played golf with Wade and his cheap driver that was all he could afford in the offseason

 

[AZmessDAWG]

By the way, mentioning Halo Gold in your predictions posts extends automatic immunity from future mockery.

You’re welcome for that lifehack.

Denied.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

In short, I’m happy we’re Fart Free and will not be rooting for them
from here on out.

I will do my best to take them down in a fully handicapped club event. Thanks in advance for your support.

 

[Fletch]

Denied.

 

[Mysterio]

The last few years, effort isn't even the problem. They can try all they want, but they had no fucking clue what they were supposed to be doing on defense.

the number of times there was two iowa guys running to close out the same shooter was hilarious. they were basketball idiots on defense

 

[Mysterio]

especially when it was harding wtf are you going to do to that basketball mighty mouse?

 

[TimkoLawson]

On a sidenote, I just checked out Hawkeyenation.com. Rob Howe has really ran that site into the ground. Looks like just a handful of boomers left there.

 

[Lil Scamp]

the number of times there was two iowa guys not putting their hands up or even considering jumping in the direction of the same shooter was hilarious. they were basketball idiots on defense

 

[The Full Monte]

I think Fran did about as good a job as can be done as far as putting us in a position to win meaningful games. He just couldn’t quite find the consistency or timing.

I am excited to see if a different approach works any better in March. I still think the toughness shit is a cop out and lazy description of too many white guys. The lack of rebounding and defense that we loathed was offset by an offense that far exceeded our talent. There’s only so much you can squeeze out if any given player or group. This hire isn’t changing that.

I probably have more insight into the support and resources that Fran did and did not have than most… And even I can’t get to agreeing with that first paragraph

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

 

[Fair and Balanced]