Banks vs Vandy

[Malickfan]

If Stanzi can't get above 2nd string in the NFL, then Vandy will struggle to make an Arena Football team.

 

[kaugie01]

First thought: Typical Monster.
Second thought: Not a bad troll.
Third thought: What the fuck?
Last thought: Typical Monster.

Frodo has one up on JVB. He can get through all of his progressions.

 

[Debit One]

Here comes the Calvary.

Calvary?

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Here comes the Calvary.

Calvary?

Oh christ, lets not crucify him

 

[BuffettHawk]

Here comes the Calvary.

Calvary?

Oh christ, lets not crucify him

Dammit!

 

[Monster]

Here comes the Calvary.

Calvary?

Oh christ, lets not crucify him

That was pretty funny.

 

[ChipHilton]

I think he meant Calgary.

 

[Mr. Hawk]

Monster and I know more than all of you combined. Because I didn't really participate here, I'll declare Monster the unequivocal winner of this thread by a large margin. The rest of you are football imbeciles.

 

[Mr. Hawk]

If Brad Banks was the QB at Iowa this year, we would have a legitimate shot to go to the Big Ten Championship.

that is fucking stupid.

 

[foxhawks]

I will be having beers with 2 former All Big Ten (1 All American) hawks this week...I'll ask who they would rather play defense against and report back. Watch your feet...L/S isn't dropping names, but he's dropping accolades!!

 

[douglasbader]

If Brad Banks was the QB at Iowa this year, we would have a legitimate shot to go to the Big Ten Championship.

that is fucking stupid.

No it isn't. Have you seen the fucking Big Ten this year? If they had Banks, they could have a shot at a 6-2 Big Ten record which would give them a chance this year.

 

[Monster]

If Brad Banks was the QB at Iowa this year, we would have a legitimate shot to go to the Big Ten Championship.

that is fucking stupid.

No it isn't. Have you seen the fucking Big Ten this year? If they had Banks, they could have a shot at a 6-2 Big Ten record which would give them a chance this year.

The Banks of 2002, or the Banks that struggled to play in Canada? He had a pretty good season for the Barnstormers in 2011 though. Did he get cut or retire?

 

[Hawkstrat]

that is fucking stupid.

No it isn't. Have you seen the fucking Big Ten this year? If they had Banks, they could have a shot at a 6-2 Big Ten record which would give them a chance this year.

The Banks of 2002, or the Banks that struggled to play in Canada? He had a pretty good season for the Barnstormers in 2011 though. Did he get cut or retire?

This is MoT like.

 

[MikeyJoe]

The Banks of 2002, or the Banks that struggled to play in Canada? He had a pretty good season for the Barnstormers in 2011 though. Did he get cut or retire?

Wtf?

 

[Debit One]

If Brad Banks was the QB at Iowa this year, we would have a legitimate shot to go to the Big Ten Championship.

that is fucking stupid.

No it isn't. Have you seen the fucking Big Ten this year? If they had Banks, they could have a shot at a 6-2 Big Ten record which would give them a chance this year.

Yes, it is stupid.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

 

[Debit One]

Here are some truths related to Iowa QBs.

1. Those who say that JVB is Christensen level bad are showing how little that they know about QB play. JC has his own place in the Iowa QB circles of hell. He was the worst QB to play meaningful minutes at Iowa post-1980, with the possible exception of anyone from 1995 - 2000 as my ability to watch games in those years was limited.

2. Anyone who ever saw JC play at Iowa and subsequently said that he could be an all Big 10 QB is a horrible judge of talent.

3. Brad Banks did his job well, but is overrated as a QB. Ask yourselves this question - why is it that he didn't get a shot in the NFL? Before you say that size is the issue, ask yourself why he didn't get a shot but Russell Wilson is getting a shot.

4. Drew Tate is underrated by most Iowa fans. That he accomplished what he did in 2004 with no running game is amazing.

 

[nolookpass]

now it all makes sense. Monster was arguing that Vandenberg is better than Banks right now. He nailed it.

 

[nolookpass]

Banks did "get a shot in the NFL." he was signed by the Redskins as a free agent.

 

[BLSardo]

This thread is nearly enough to upset the Earth's rotation.

 

[bigazzturkeylegs]

The Banks of 2002, or the Banks that struggled to play in Canada? He had a pretty good season for the Barnstormers in 2011 though. Did he get cut or retire?

 

[Lime]

fun fact I learned from reading Wikipedia: Brad Banks and Matt Bohnet (ex-Iowa QB during early 2000s who had success after transferring to Easter Michigan) were teammates at Winnipeg.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

The Banks of 2002, or the Banks that struggled to play in Canada? He had a pretty good season for the Barnstormers in 2011 though. Did he get cut or retire?

:rotf:

 

[brantshawks]

:shock:

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

That had to be in Russia or some eastern european nightmare country.

 

[brantshawks]

That had to be in Russia or some eastern european nightmare country.

Yeah, I think he's just solving a problem.

 

[Orestes]

Here are some truths related to Iowa QBs.

1. Those who say that JVB is Christensen level bad are showing how little that they know about QB play. JC has his own place in the Iowa QB circles of hell. He was the worst QB to play meaningful minutes at Iowa post-1980, with the possible exception of anyone from 1995 - 2000 as my ability to watch games in those years was limited.

First of all, you should remember Tom Poholsky. He was bad. And you should remember Paul Burmeister. He was fucking terrible.

But you - like most Iowa fans - have allowed 1994 to be stricken from your brains. And this is understandable, because we were goddamn terrible in 1994. But 1994 was to Iowa quarterbacks what 2004 was to running backs. And after Ryan Driscoll broke his collar bone, our quarterback was a transfer from Michigan State named Mike Duprey. And after he died (or something) a dude named Corby Smith quarterbacked the team. Finally Matt Sherman came in for the last three games and we had our quarterback for the future (ha!).

Duprey and Smith are clearly the worst quarterbacks to start a game in the past 20 years. Burmeister is next. Poholsky and Christianson are really close.

Vandenburg, in all honesty, is somewhere down there this year. He wasn't last year, but he is this year. When I think of Jake Christiansen, I think pictureh im oerthrowing a wide-open fullback in the flat on 3rd and 2 against Northwestern. When I think of 2012's JVB, I think of many of his throws against Minny that were yards over the heads of their intended receivers. JVB is a Duprey-Smith-Christiansen-Burmeister-esque quarterback because he is so unbelievably inaccurate.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

you forgot matt eyde

 

[L. Wade Childress]

or was it Jefferson Bates?

 

[nolookpass]

Matt Eyde was the transfer from MSU IIRC

 

[Orestes]

Fuck you fuckers. I thought I was making this great fucking reference from everyone's lost season. And you fuckers correct me (correctly). Fuck you.

And fuck your "Jefferson Bates" reference, too. 'Cuz that was impressive. And fuck you.

 

[jabberjaw]

Here are some truths related to Iowa QBs.

1. Those who say that JVB is Christensen level bad are showing how little that they know about QB play. JC has his own place in the Iowa QB circles of hell. He was the worst QB to play meaningful minutes at Iowa post-1980, with the possible exception of anyone from 1995 - 2000 as my ability to watch games in those years was limited.

First of all, you should remember Tom Poholsky. He was bad. And you should remember Paul Burmeister. He was fucking terrible.

But you - like most Iowa fans - have allowed 1994 to be stricken from your brains. And this is understandable, because we were goddamn terrible in 1994. But 1994 was to Iowa quarterbacks what 2004 was to running backs. And after Ryan Driscoll broke his collar bone, our quarterback was a transfer from Michigan State named Mike Duprey. And after he died (or something) a dude named Corby Smith quarterbacked the team. Finally Matt Sherman came in for the last three games and we had our quarterback for the future (ha!).

Duprey and Smith are clearly the worst quarterbacks to start a game in the past 20 years.

Wasn't Corby Smith a USC transfer? I think he left USC when his dad got fired. At the time, Iowa fans thought they were getting something good.

 

[Hawkstrat]

Some 'smart' posters are making awfully stupid arguments.

 

[AZmessDAWG]

Here are some truths related to Iowa QBs.

1. Those who say that JVB is Christensen level bad are showing how little that they know about QB play. JC has his own place in the Iowa QB circles of hell. He was the worst QB to play meaningful minutes at Iowa post-1980, with the possible exception of anyone from 1995 - 2000 as my ability to watch games in those years was limited.

First of all, you should remember Tom Poholsky. He was bad. And you should remember Paul Burmeister. He was fucking terrible.

But you - like most Iowa fans - have allowed 1994 to be stricken from your brains. And this is understandable, because we were goddamn terrible in 1994. But 1994 was to Iowa quarterbacks what 2004 was to running backs. And after Ryan Driscoll broke his collar bone, our quarterback was a transfer from Michigan State named Mike Duprey. And after he died (or something) a dude named Corby Smith quarterbacked the team. Finally Matt Sherman came in for the last three games and we had our quarterback for the future (ha!).

Duprey and Smith are clearly the worst quarterbacks to start a game in the past 20 years.

Wasn't Corby Smith a USC transfer? I think he left USC when his dad got fired. At the time, Iowa fans thought they were getting something good.

I think it was Mizzou.

 

[BLSardo]

Wasn't Corby Smith a USC transfer? I think he left USC when his dad got fired. At the time, Iowa fans thought they were getting something good.

I think it was Mizzou.

Player: Smith spent 1993 and ‘94 as a quarterback at the University of Iowa. He transferred there after two years at Southern California. He lettered his second year at USC as a special teams player and backup quarterback and lettered once as a QB for the Hawkeyes

http://www.mutigers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/smith_corby00.html

 

[AZmessDAWG]

That's right. His dad was coach at Mizzou. My bad.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

First of all, you should remember Tom Poholsky. He was bad. And you should remember Paul Burmeister. He was fucking terrible.

But you - like most Iowa fans - have allowed 1994 to be stricken from your brains. And this is understandable, because we were goddamn terrible in 1994. But 1994 was to Iowa quarterbacks what 2004 was to running backs. And after Ryan Driscoll broke his collar bone, our quarterback was a transfer from Michigan State named Mike Duprey. And after he died (or something) a dude named Corby Smith quarterbacked the team. Finally Matt Sherman came in for the last three games and we had our quarterback for the future (ha!).

Duprey and Smith are clearly the worst quarterbacks to start a game in the past 20 years.

Wasn't Corby Smith a USC transfer? I think he left USC when his dad got fired. At the time, Iowa fans thought they were getting something good.

I think it was Mizzou.

you are thinking of corby jones

 

[AZmessDAWG]

nvm i'm a rah-tard

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Some of this shit is getting out of hand now. Damn. You can't even utter Vandy in the same sentence as Christensen, he's fucking lightyears better than that turd. Vandy started that Minnesota game lights out, 7/7 or 8/8 and he's shown flashes of brilliance in the past that Christensen never even sniffed. Anyone ever remember Christensen stringing that many completions together in a row? Hell, I don't remember him stringing even 3 or 4 in a row together, to be honest. Vandy singlehandedly won that Pitt game for us last year while throwing for 400 yards, could these other turds you guys are referencing ever do something like that?

This is not to say that he hasn't regressed this year but a lot of that probably has to do with a new OC and scheme. I suspect he'll settle into the new system more as the season wears on. If he doesn't, then you can start having a discussion about him being a terrible quarterback but that still won't justify putting him anywhere close to the category that Christensen is in.

 

[jabberjaw]

Frodo, you're my friend and all, but Vandy sucks. He sucked last year too. Good numbers in a few games (that inflated his numbers), but absolutely shit his pants in the bulk of the losses.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

I'm not arguing that he doesn't suck. He just sucks a hell of a lot less than some of you goons think.

 

[foxhawks]

 

[Monster]

Some of this shit is getting out of hand now. Damn. You can't even utter Vandy in the same sentence as Christensen, he's fucking lightyears better than that turd. Vandy started that Minnesota game lights out, 7/7 or 8/8 and he's shown flashes of brilliance in the past that Christensen never even sniffed. Anyone ever remember Christensen stringing that many completions together in a row? Hell, I don't remember him stringing even 3 or 4 in a row together, to be honest. Vandy singlehandedly won that Pitt game for us last year while throwing for 400 yards, could these other turds you guys are referencing ever do something like that?

This is not to say that he hasn't regressed this year but a lot of that probably has to do with a new OC and scheme. I suspect he'll settle into the new system more as the season wears on. If he doesn't, then you can start having a discussion about him being a terrible quarterback but that still won't justify putting him anywhere close to the category that Christensen is in.

Good post, Fro.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

who exactly is putting him in JC6 category?

you dont have to be JC6 to be fucking terrible.

 

[Hawkstrat]

Some of this shit is getting out of hand now. Damn. You can't even utter Vandy in the same sentence as Christensen, he's fucking lightyears better than that turd. Vandy started that Minnesota game lights out, 7/7 or 8/8 and he's shown flashes of brilliance in the past that Christensen never even sniffed. Anyone ever remember Christensen stringing that many completions together in a row? Hell, I don't remember him stringing even 3 or 4 in a row together, to be honest. Vandy singlehandedly won that Pitt game for us last year while throwing for 400 yards, could these other turds you guys are referencing ever do something like that?

This is not to say that he hasn't regressed this year but a lot of that probably has to do with a new OC and scheme. I suspect he'll settle into the new system more as the season wears on. If he doesn't, then you can start having a discussion about him being a terrible quarterback but that still won't justify putting him anywhere close to the category that Christensen is in.

Good post, Fro.

All-Big Ten.

 

[Monster]

Youre right, Strat. I was most definitely wrong about JC. Thanks for bringing it up as im sure most people have completely forgotten about it. Continue to do so, please, as im sure it will continue to be relevent years from now regardless of how many things I will say that will turn out to be correct.

 

[Hawkstrat]

Youre right, Strat. I was most definitely wrong about JC. Thanks for bringing it up as im sure most people have completely forgotten about it. Continue to do so, please, as im sure it will continue to be relevent[sic] years from now regardless of how many things I will say that will turn out to be correct.

It is relevant to this discussion, as you have admitted in the past to saying positive things about Iowa's starting quarterback for the sake of saying positive things about Iowa's starting quarterback.

I''m assuming you don't really think Vandy is better than Banks, but rather you feel bad for Vandy and are compensating for all the criticism he gets from other fans.



P.S. All-Big Ten.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

Youre right, Strat. I was most definitely wrong about JC. Thanks for bringing it up as im sure most people have completely forgotten about it. Continue to do so, please, as im sure it will continue to be relevent[sic] years from now regardless of how many things I will say that will turn out to be correct.

It is relevant to this discussion, as you have admitted in the past to saying positive things about Iowa's starting quarterback for the sake of saying positive things about Iowa's starting quarterback.

I''m assuming you don't really think Vandy is better than Banks, but rather you feel bad for Vandy and are compensating for all the criticism he gets from other fans.



P.S. All-Big Ten.

 

[Monster]

Strat has amazing insight.

 

[Grape Ape]

Youre right, Strat. I was most definitely wrong about JC. Thanks for bringing it up as im sure most people have completely forgotten about it. Continue to do so, please, as im sure it will continue to be relevent[sic] years from now regardless of how many things I will say that will turn out to be correct.

It is relevant to this discussion, as you have admitted in the past to saying positive things about Iowa's starting quarterback for the sake of saying positive things about Iowa's starting quarterback.

I''m assuming you don't really think Vandy is better than Banks, but rather you feel bad for Vandy and are compensating for all the criticism he gets from other fans.



P.S. All-Big Ten.

:rotf: