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Of the rumored options, I think I take Lester over Getsy, Philbin and Chryst after looking into the offenses and concepts Lester ran at Western Michigan. Now, will he be allowed to run that stuff here?
 

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Football is a different animal because of the tailgating aspect, but I think this move is going to be the beginning of a larger swath of Iowa fans changing their mind on Kirk similar to how they’re currently viewing Fran.
 

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Of the rumored options, I think I take Lester over Getsy, Philbin and Chryst after looking into the offenses and concepts Lester ran at Western Michigan. Now, will he be allowed to run that stuff here?
lol!
 

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Of the rumored options, I think I take Lester over Getsy, Philbin and Chryst after looking into the offenses and concepts Lester ran at Western Michigan. Now, will he be allowed to run that stuff here?
Chryst, no.
 

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No you don’t.
"No you don't" doesn't really make sense grammatically to what I posted, but yeah, I would have rather had the young super well liked black guy that has shown signs of innovation and been a hell of a coach over milquetoast barely has a job just fired a year ago guy.
 

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Of the rumored options, I think I take Lester over Getsy, Philbin and Chryst after looking into the offenses and concepts Lester ran at Western Michigan. Now, will he be allowed to run that stuff here?
Even the list of rumored options kinda fucking sucked. This never felt like a serious process from Kirk

Unless the list of people that told him to GFH in the initial phone call is somehow way way longer than we know…this was a deeply unserious process
 

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Chryst ran tired concepts at Wisconsin that got his ass fired and has a stated lack of motivation to recruit.
 

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Football is a different animal because of the tailgating aspect, but I think this move is going to be the beginning of a larger swath of Iowa fans changing their mind on Kirk similar to how they’re currently viewing Fran.
I think they have the talent and defense to still be a really good team in 2024, but as we have discussed, 10-2 seasons like last year are more like 6-6 seasons going forward.
 

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I sorta felt this hire would suck when Kirk went on a rant about USC's defense and Ronnie Lott when asked about his search.
 

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"No you don't" doesn't really make sense grammatically to what I posted, but yeah, I would have rather had the young super well liked black guy that has shown signs of innovation and been a hell of a coach over milquetoast barely has a job just fired a year ago guy.
And fired at his last 3 coaching jobs
 

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I think they have the talent and defense to still be a really good team in 2024, but as we have discussed, 10-2 seasons like last year are more like 6-6 seasons going forward.
This is overreactionary bullshit. We have 3 protected games against Wisconsin, Nebrantska, Minnesota every year. They’re not going to schedule us Ohio St, Michigan, Penn St, Washington, USC all for the other games. Iowa is set up as well as anyone to have consistently good records in the Big Ten.
 

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I’m going to say it again. Of Kirks last 3 OCs, only 1 of them had an option to be OC somewhere else at the time they were hired by Iowa and that somewhere else was Troy.

Its pretty fucking embarrassing.
 

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Anyone remember what a fucking cunt Kirk was after the adults had to fire Brian because his father refused to do so?
I was willing to give Kirk another chance to redeem himself but it is now clear that he is and will continue to be the problem. He isn’t showing any competency towards fielding an average at best offense.
 

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This is overreactionary bullshit. We have 3 protected games against Wisconsin, Nebrantska, Minnesota every year. They’re not going to schedule us Ohio St, Michigan, Penn St, Washington, USC all for the other games. Iowa is set up as well as anyone to have consistently good records in the Big Ten.
They are taking away 3 guaranteed cupcake games comparatively and replacing them with 3 games that more often than not are going to be non-cupcake games. Statistically the days of being able to waltz to 10 wins (as Iowa has done in 2 of the last 3 seasons) is over.

Great, it's not 6-6, it's 7-5 instead. Not to mention the travel West to a program that travels west like shit isn't a great trade off either.
 

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"No you don't" doesn't really make sense grammatically to what I posted, but yeah, I would have rather had the young super well liked black guy that has shown signs of innovation and been a hell of a coach over milquetoast barely has a job just fired a year ago guy.
They’re 1 year apart in age!

Levar coached TE for 3 years. He played LB and has spent almost his entire career coaching D/ST. Never put together an offense or called an offensive play. If anything he would have been the “do what Kirk wants” choice.

Lester is a former QB who has had 3 top 30 offenses depending on how you measure it. I would have rather had Chryst or Johns but there’s zero reason to think LeVar is a better choice to be OC.
 

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They’re 1 year apart in age!

Levar coached TE for 3 years. He played LB and has spent almost his entire career coaching D/ST. Never put together an offense or called an offensive play. If anything he would have been the “do what Kirk wants” choice.

Lester is a former QB who has had 3 top 30 offenses depending on how you measure it. I would have rather had Chryst or Johns but there’s zero reason to think LeVar is a better choice to be OC.
The "black" was the part of that equation that was the differentiator, which you know.

Either way, doesn't really matter, Kirk made the on paper at this time worst possible hire that you can make after waiting 90 days and "really taking the time to get it right". Not to mention that at best he's the 2nd choice and from whoever you believe might have been like the 5th or 6th choice. All while he had Johns right there that everyone would have been more than happy with.

I hope Tim Milquetoast works out and he somehow figures out a way to run Deacon Hill off.
 

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Lol, just saw the story that Western Michigan fired him after a single losing season (after just having given him an extension the year before) for being terrible on offense because the AD felt that Lester had no real plan to fix anything for the future.

Yikes.
 

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It also means he wasn’t involved in offensive game planning. Sounds like he ran the scout team offense.
Obviously.

And the odds that Iowa would hire anyone under 60 that had coordinated an NFL offense are NIL.

At least he coached the scout team.

It's all about polishing the turd at this poinr.
 

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Football is a different animal because of the tailgating aspect, but I think this move is going to be the beginning of a larger swath of Iowa fans changing their mind on Kirk similar to how they’re currently viewing Fran.
LOL. Have you considered the fact that halo.com and goiowawesome.com are made up of angry social media men and not representative of the fanbase at large? Because you should.

It’s like my home town friends who think the election was stolen because they never saw anyone supportive of Biden on Facebook.
 

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Lol, just saw the story that Western Michigan fired him after a single losing season (after just having given him an extension the year before) for being terrible on offense because the AD felt that Lester had no real plan to fix anything for the future.

Yikes.
"I noticed you were fired for not having a plan to fix the offense."

Lester: "We have a really good defense."

 
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Lol, just saw the story that Western Michigan fired him after a single losing season (after just having given him an extension the year before) for being terrible on offense because the AD felt that Lester had no real plan to fix anything for the future.

Yikes.
Like 3 years straight of saying they just need to practice better?
 

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Maybe one of the beat reporters will also report on what also actually caused the incredible delay in the hire after Chryst turned Ferentz down, but that might make this so much worse given we have a soon to be septuagenarian as the head coach and the reality of the risks associated with a septuagenarian might really tank the program.
 

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Lol, just saw the story that Western Michigan fired him after a single losing season (after just having given him an extension the year before) for being terrible on offense because the AD felt that Lester had no real plan to fix anything for the future.

Yikes.
He had 4 pretty good seasons prior to this, so what happened in this last year?
 

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He had 4 pretty good seasons prior to this, so what happened in this last year?
Good question. Not only did he have 4 good years prior, but he is a Western Michigan alum. They threw him out on his ass immediately after a single mediocre year and then the AD trashed him on the way out.
 

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Maybe one of the beat reporters will also report on what also actually caused the incredible delay in the hire after Chryst turned Ferentz down, but that might make this so much worse given we have a soon to be septuagenarian as the head coach and the reality of the risks associated with a septuagenarian might really tank the program.
seems like they didn’t start looking until after the bowl and once Chryst said no it was basically square one again
 

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LOL. Have you considered the fact that halo.com and goiowawesome.com are made up of angry social media men and not representative of the fanbase at large? Because you should.

It’s like my home town friends who think the election was stolen because they never saw anyone supportive of Biden on Facebook.
Fuck off.
 

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Maybe one of the beat reporters will also report on what also actually caused the incredible delay in the hire after Chryst turned Ferentz down, but that might make this so much worse given we have a soon to be septuagenarian as the head coach and the reality of the risks associated with a septuagenarian might really tank the program.
lots of things. Thanksgiving. Christmas. Shoveling. Returning gifts.
 

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Kirk was being honest when he was asked about what he was looking for in a coordinator, and he waxed philosophical about having character and being a team player. He was never looking for the on paper most talented offensive coordinator he could hire. He was looking for the guy who he felt "fit" the best, and for whatever reason, that was Lester.

Kirk is at a stage in his career where winning is clearly less important than doing things his way.
 

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We won’t have to abide this for long. I think Kirk will hate the new look Big Ten, where he’s playing on opposite coasts on either side of a bye week, and will hang it up in December.
I think he'll be busy getting ready for the playoff game.
 

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LOL. Have you considered the fact that halo.com and goiowawesome.com are made up of angry social media men and not representative of the fanbase at large? Because you should.

It’s like my home town friends who think the election was stolen because they never saw anyone supportive of Biden on Facebook.
You’re not wrong. Even in this angry corner of the internet, there are posters who are hoping for a Kirk 5.0 reboot despite mountains of evidence that nothing will change.

Someday, when the schedule isn’t cake and/or the defense is just average, things will get ugly.
 

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Kakert arguing that this wasn't a long process, because Kirk didn't actually care to start until after his boy coached his last game. Just not sure lazy over slow is much of a defense.
 
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