**Official Iowa State vs. Iowa Football Thread - 6:30pm - NBC**

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

 

[Hawk&Balls]

I must have missed this. That will definitely get you benched with Kurt.

The play he got manhandled

 

[Hawk&Balls]

They need to reign in Doll on punt coverage. He was the one flying in both when James got tackled and dove at the ball for no reason on the shanked punt.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

The pilot from the flyover that graduated in 2015 sat in front of us with his wife. That was one of the better flyovers since the illegal one. Fighter jets are the fucking best.

 

[Rolo Tomassi]

Missing their guys grabbing and dragging our PR into the ball was the worst. I mean, how can they not see that?

The knee to the helmet should have been an unnecessary roughness call, and the ref was standing right there watching it.

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

The pilot from the flyover that graduated in 2015 sat in front of us with his wife. That was one of the better flyovers since the illegal one. Fighter jets are the fucking best.

Need to do another Illegal Flyover. Especially since it's now been one-upped by that one in South Africa where the plane was almost shot down by the stadium's firework display.

 

[Matt]

Beni Ngoyi Enthusiast (@Cyclone_Basha) on X

There should be 38 more seconds left. Horrible

x.com

 

[Kerky]

What was frustrating is it felt like they always got 3-4 yards per carry after we should have tackled them.

 

[jandj]

The knee to the helmet should have been an unnecessary roughness call, and the ref was standing right there watching it.

The ref shouldn’t have missed the knee to the head but it looked to me like he was focused on the scrum for the ball.

 

[Verbal]

According to AI, that’s the first time Iowa has come back from down 10+ points to beat Iowa State since 2006. Just thrilled to be 2-0 when the team didn’t perform well.

They were down 31-21 in the 4th quarter in 2017 before coming back to win in OT.

 

[Kerky]

I think it’s totally legal. James needs to just get out of there.

No, even the ref on TV said it should have been not 1 but 2 personal fouls.

Edit: Not ref but color guy.

 

[gable_guy]

Also, we’re missing LeVar Woods. The false starts on punts need to stop right now (or Saturday)

 

[Monster]

No, even the ref on TV said it should have been not 1 but 2 personal fouls.

Edit: Not ref but color guy.

 

[Billy Butters]

No, even the ref on TV said it should have been not 1 but 2 personal fouls.

Edit: Not ref but color guy.

It's amazing how many players don't understand the rule. If a player is intentionally blocked into the ball it doesn't even count as a live touching anyway. It's one thing to try and get away with it if a player is a foot from the ball but this dumbass thought he could carry the Iowa player 5 yards.

 

[cloudhawk]

*Dumbasses there were 3 of them- lolz

 

[Bovert]

My favorite post from cyfan I've seen this morning:

Say what you want about Jimmy, but the guy can almost beat Iowa with the best of them.

But most of them of course have already decided that Rogers and his coordinators are all so good that they'll all be gone in the near future to bigger and better jobs

 

[Malickfan]

I had to listen to a lot of football yesterday and Gary Dolphin is by far the worst play by play guy out there. You have no idea of down and distance. No idea where the ball is on the field. No idea how much time is left. The three most basic things an effective radio guy needs to convey. He spends twice as much time on shoutouts to Hawk fans around the country than he does describing the action. You miss entire plays because of it.

But we’re faggot Hawkeye fans who embrace mediocrity so we name the fucking press box after him.

Was it @newsbreaker that said we almost had Jeff Joniak as our play by play guy, but he then took the Bears job?

Joniak is light years better than Dolph.

 

[Kerky]

Upon reflection, and after reading this thread, I'm not as concerned as I was in the heat of the action.

1. To Doug's point, they are an experienced bunch with a lot of players that took good teams to the brink last year.
2. Rodgers had a game plan suited to their personnel and similar to other underdogs to throw Ferentz ball right back at him. Grind it out, make no glaring mistakes and keep it close for a coin flip knowing that Kirk will do the same and prefers it that way.
3. D line job was to contain the run and QB run. Take up blockers and let LBs do the work. Do not get out of lanes and give their QB a free avenue. The one concern on defense was yards after contact and being stout enough to bring the runner down on first contact.
4. O line could have benefited from a few more shots downfield but also a different attack mode in the running game to counter their aggressive front. I'm no short wearing ball coach, but I recall past games deeper into the season when we start springing different stuff to get the running game going like even some traps and counters, but we are always going to remain vanilla zone at this time of the year which is why this series is so frustratingly close every year.
5. Hank was more than solid and I feel much better about that situation going forward.

 

[shoot-the-three]

Even with the officials taking several minutes for a review, I had no idea how long ISU’s last completion was and where the ball was on the field. I was 100% certain they were in FG range with time being put back on the clock.

At one point Dolph said that he threw the ball 40-45yards. I thought they were in FG range too.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I don’t understand why all the cloak and dagger shit and splitting reps when Kirk clearly wants Hank. He was decent yesterday, but he should be further along had we not been dicking around. None of these guys are worth worrying about feelings over.

 

[jandj]

No, even the ref on TV said it should have been not 1 but 2 personal fouls.

Edit: Not ref but color guy.

Uhhhh, Blackledge and Burmeister are two of the whitest crackers I’ve ever seen.

 

[jbincr]

He doesn't do that. At least not tonight.

I’m pretty sure someone told Rod that was a bad idea.

 

[TurdBurgler]

I really liked ISUs heavy formations, we should do some of that with linemen reporting as receivers.

 

[brantshawks]

Fucking hell....

 

[Hawk&Balls]

At one point Dolph said that he threw the ball 40-45yards. I thought they were in FG range too.

would have been a 68 yarder

 

[Thomas Wolsey]

Eagerly looking forward to my buddies (ANF) pod. They said Epenesa had two horrendous reps on the two ISU long plays (reverse, Flora 2H run).

Half of their run yards (and points) came on his two fuckups. 51 was not great either.

 

[douglasbader]

Eagerly looking forward to my buddies (ANF) pod. They said Epenesa had two horrendous reps on the two ISU long plays (reverse, Flora 2H run).

Tell them good call on how Iowa State was going to attack Iowa's offense, but LOL that I'm laughing and clowning the curly haired one for saying Iowa would be a Top 25 offense.

 

[douglasbader]

The run game being undependable last night concerns me a lot more than the pass game, which I've just been conditioned to believe will be bad.

That said, it's also hilarious we had a dead even QB battle for all of camp and in a game Hank Brown led one TD drive, we see no Hecklinski. They want it to be Brown so bad, probably for the deep ball, but he's got to hit more of those deep shots for that to be effective, especially the wide open TD to Diaz last week

It's been said multiple times in the thread, but I don't think the run game was undependable at all, they were just told over and over to run into a brick wall with multiple unblocked guys flying at them blowing up the play.

When it came down to the end, the run game is actually what worked and saved the game for Iowa. When they needed the yards, they got the yards.

 

[douglasbader]

Also, we’re missing LeVar Woods. The false starts on punts need to stop right now (or Saturday)

Overblown, the special teams have been pretty damn good so far. Punt return the only real issue last night, and that was due to injury.

Let's not pretend that special teams didn't have their own set of issues the last few years. The kicking game was inconsistent at best for a few years.

 

[Mitchandrsn]

Tell them good call on how Iowa State was going to attack Iowa's offense, but LOL that I'm laughing and clowning the curly haired one for saying Iowa would be a Top 25 offense.

Yeah Connor will have to temper that now. They did say something to the effect that at least the Run Game/OL is a much easier fix than being absent WR and capable QB.

 

[douglasbader]

Yeah Connor will have to temper that now. They did say something to the effect that at least the Run Game/OL is a much easier fix than being absent WR and capable QB.

Agreed, and I like those guys. Best thing as far in the Iowa-verse.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Overblown, the special teams have been pretty damn good so far. Punt return the only real issue last night, and that was due to injury.

Let's not pretend that special teams didn't have their own set of issues the last few years. The kicking game was inconsistent at best for a few years.

New kicker went from missing his first ever PAT to me being money last night in an 8 day span

 

[UnKnOwN_SeRb]

New kicker went from missing his first ever PAT to me being money last night in an 8 day span

Happy for him!

 

[pjhawk]

I honestly thought Brown looked pretty good. No real pants shitting and there were moments where he could have. The fact that he isn't check down Charlie and will actually take shots, is a relief.

It's only two games, but an Iowa QB seems to be developing and maturing and coming into his own, rather than regressing. Which of course should be the norm and the expected , but for us feels like the exception.

Hank Brown did just lead a game-winning late 4th quarter scoring drive, and in the stadium I did not see any visible pants shitting.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

New kicker went from missing his first ever PAT to me being money last night in an 8 day span

the snaps have been bad, including on the game winner. I wonder if that was the problem last week.

 

[Uff Da]

Hank is not a good QB, but, he should just be the starter. Hecklinski is too short.
The offense will be average at best anyway.
Will just need to grind out wins in the Big 10. Ohio State is the only team on the schedule that is clearly better than Iowa.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Hank is a bit faster than I expected as well. A little stanzi ish.

 

[Nobody]

Yeah, it was an ugly crying situation when they showed his headwear with the flowers next to it on the field, paired with the distraught faces of those kids performing so soon after his passing. They kept his spot open in formations and everything.

 

[Hawkstrat]

I don't want to sound overly sunny, but some of this reaction is because we all remember 10 win seasons where 8 of those wins felt like having your balls in a vice. But having a few ugly wins isn't really that abnormal or bad.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

I don't want to sound overly sunny, but some of this reaction is because we all remember 10 win seasons where 8 of those wins felt like having your balls in a vice. But having a few ugly wins isn't really that abnormal or bad.

I think it’s more of the repeated lack of willingness to make in game adjustments over an extended period of time.

We’ve now had our top 2 RB’s dinged in the first two games. We have to stop beating the shit out of them while simultaneously getting ourselves behind the chains on 2nd down. The 1st down passing yards speak for themselves.

 

[WCFHawkeye]

1. We're not good boyz.
2. Unpopular opinion but the new PA guy is a massive upgrade. The last guy sucked and people won't admit it because of nostalgia.
3. The concessions situation this season is unbearable. They must fix this. I missed nearly a quarter getting my kids some food. I don't drink at games, but those lines looked horrible too.
4. In 20+ years, the traffic was the worst I've ever seen it.
5. The new seatbacks for the commoners are a great upgrade. Much improved.
6. They took deep shots and it makes me happy.
7. It's a joke/cliche at this point I know but I swear to god KF would rather win 16-13 than pound the shit out of anyone. It's almost too obvious to chalk up to being a joke.
8. There are just soooo many fats.
9. After last week I thought we'd be a typical Iowa physical team. I do not see this currently on either side. We're still well above average.
10. I hate sitting around people who don't understand the game, which is 80% of the stadium.
11. The PR mugging is still vexing me. I couldn't explain it at the time and still can't. I am terribly vexed.
12. F16s are pretty cool. I can absolutely see how the kid in Iron Eagle used one to take out a 3rd world military with Chappy's help.

2. The PA guy was fine last night, and far better than the previous week.

4. Shockingly, in a game no one left early, I have seldom had an easier time getting out of Iowa City. No backups or slowdowns. Granted I was parked in Corallville and headed up 380.

 

[Mr. Hawk]

Did you walk from Coralville to the stadium?

 

[douglasbader]

I don't want to sound overly sunny, but some of this reaction is because we all remember 10 win seasons where 8 of those wins felt like having your balls in a vice. But having a few ugly wins isn't really that abnormal or bad.

Every single other person outside of Iowa fans think this was a perfectly good win, and it is. Every single good year Iowa has had included some ugly, sometimes hideously ugly wins against shitty teams.

2002 Indiana, 2004 Iowa State, 2008 Purdue, 2009 UNI and Minnesota, 2015 Minnesota, 2025 Michigan State and on and on.

 

[Shawneemicks]

This team is pretty much what I thought they’d be. Solid but flawed. Like most teams.
They’re going to have moments or games that look really good and some pretty meh moments. Diaz is a difference maker but Lester seems to force some shit to him.
Throw it a ton this week and hopefully polish some of pass game.

 

[RazHawk]

I just did a quick rewatch, ISU did a good job of disrupting the run game with stunts and gap discipline, the safety's and LBs were crashing, but it was pretty regularly a 6 or 7 man box and the OL did a poor job of getting to the 2nd level.

My assumption is Barnett and Kirk can fix that watching this game, but think this was more of a scheme problem than anything. That said, would have felt better if Lester had a halftime answer and saw an effective 4-5YPC in the 2nd half, but there were too many blown assignments and the OL did not climb to the 2nd level well in this one.

Brown has to get better at throwing the deep ball for this team to hit it's ceiling.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Diaz is a difference maker but Lester seems to force some shit to him.

Better than the alternative of forgetting about him

 

[Shawneemicks]

Better than the alternative of forgetting about him

Agree, yes, I don’t blame him he’s really good

 

[OhFFSman]

Hank has a completion rate so far this season of 66%, qbr ~125, 2 tds (1 on ground), and no ints. Not a world beater, but better than i thought he would be. If he could improve on his deep ball accuracy soon hes at least an average b10 qb to me

 

[Gushawk]

I just did a quick rewatch, ISU did a good job of disrupting the run game with stunts and gap discipline, the safety's and LBs were crashing, but it was pretty regularly a 6 or 7 man box and the OL did a poor job of getting to the 2nd level.

My assumption is Barnett and Kirk can fix that watching this game, but think this was more of a scheme problem than anything. That said, would have felt better if Lester had a halftime answer and saw an effective 4-5YPC in the 2nd half, but there were too many blown assignments and the OL did not climb to the 2nd level well in this one.

Brown has to get better at throwing the deep ball for this team to hit it's ceiling.

A lot of the time they weren’t even taking care of the first level before failing to get to the second. One of those games where you repeatedly saw Iowa linemen 2-3 yards downfield after the play getting up off the ground after seemingly blocking no one, at least effectively.

 

[Gushawk]

Hank has a completion rate so far this season of 66%, qbr ~125, 2 tds (1 on ground), and no ints. Not a world beater, but better than i thought he would be. If he could improve on his deep ball accuracy soon hes at least an average b10 qb to me

I don’t think he’s doing a great job of getting off his first guy when it’s not there and through the rest of his progression either. If the first look isn’t there he seems to panic a bit and check down to the back/flat.