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'By brining energy, I didn't mean effort, I meant he can hit threes,' might be the least effective attempt at moving the goalposts I've ever read.
 

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Brady must REALLY bring the energy in practice.
 

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Iowa was terrible when Williams played, better when Jordan took all over, and good as Jordan improved. Blaming bohannon for the season is extremely retarded, no matter how bad he is on defense.
 

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If you can’t see how Connor and Joe improve things I don’t know what to tell you.

At the very least they aren’t lazy dumbfucks.
So that’s now the bar now? Improvememt on being one of the worst teams in a shitty Big 10?

Maybe they’ll win four conference games next year!
The last few years, Iowa has finished:

2014: 6
2015: 4
2016: 5
2017: 8

It's idiotic to act like this single shitty year is indicative of the long term state of the problem.
 

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If you can’t see how Connor and Joe improve things I don’t know what to tell you.

At the very least they aren’t lazy dumbfucks.
So that’s now the bar now? Improvememt on being one of the worst teams in a shitty Big 10?

Maybe they’ll win four conference games next year!
The last few years, Iowa has finished:

2014: 6
2015: 4
2016: 5
2017: 8

It's idiotic to act like this single shitty year is indicative of the long term state of the problem.
Fortunately Fran has identified and is correcting the problem.

In semi related news I have noticed a marked shift in measurement of success from NCAA tourney bids and wins to Big Ten rankings where multiple team ties are omitted.

With the exception of Howler, nobody is calling for Fran’s job. It’s fair for fans to have expectations that the team be competitive in year eight.
 

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So that’s now the bar now? Improvememt on being one of the worst teams in a shitty Big 10?

Maybe they’ll win four conference games next year!
The last few years, Iowa has finished:

2014: 6
2015: 4
2016: 5
2017: 8

It's idiotic to act like this single shitty year is indicative of the long term state of the problem.
Fortunately Fran has identified and is correcting the problem.

In semi related news I have noticed a marked shift in measurement of success from NCAA tourney bids and wins to Big Ten rankings where multiple team ties are omitted.

With the exception of Howler, nobody is calling for Fran’s job. It’s fair for fans to have expectations that the team be competitive in year eight.
I'm not sure how any of that was a response to me, but okay.
 

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Let me clarify, I'm talking about when he hits a couple big threes, not his defensive efforts. Other players feed off on that.

You'd be correct in that I'm not quite as religious as following Iowa basketball or basketball in general as you, but I think we can both agree Iowa isn't a very good team this year despite the collection of some good, young talent on this team.
Lol. You really don't watch the games.

He really brought the energy to the team when he hit 3 big threes in a row and then Iowa immediately gave up a 12-0 run against fucking Rutgers. The players really fed off that.
Well once those three happened our retarded coach subbed all five players out. Hard to feed off energy from the bench
when bohannon hit those 3pointers he was the only starter on the floor...the other 4 had already been subbed out for.
 

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So that’s now the bar now? Improvememt on being one of the worst teams in a shitty Big 10?

Maybe they’ll win four conference games next year!
The last few years, Iowa has finished:

2014: 6
2015: 4
2016: 5
2017: 8

It's idiotic to act like this single shitty year is indicative of the long term state of the problem.
Fortunately Fran has identified and is correcting the problem.

In semi related news I have noticed a marked shift in measurement of success from NCAA tourney bids and wins to Big Ten rankings where multiple team ties are omitted.

With the exception of Howler, nobody is calling for Fran’s job. It’s fair for fans to have expectations that the team be competitive in year eight.
Where have I called for Fran's job this year? I suppose anything's possible in the heat of the moment--and certainly so during this frustrating year--but I'd like to see him right the ship next year. (I'm sure as hell not optimistic about it.) There's even a Rutgers chat transcript somewhere where I asked everyone who these fans were wanting termination after this year. I'll be irritated if we miss the tourney next year to only have his seat get hot then, because I think he'll be feeling the pressure pretty good after this year if the L's keeping piling up through March.
 

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Baer had one Rebound in 26 minutes. Hey it's a cool story from walk on to Big Ten player but it's time to end this little experiment. Nunge is the future and needs to be getting the majority of bears minutes
 

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Baer had one Rebound in 26 minutes. Hey it's a cool story from walk on to Big Ten player but it's time to end this little experiment. Nunge is the future and needs to be getting the majority of bears minutes
Not majority, but Baer needs to go back to hustle guy off bench at the 4, which would be great next year.

Jordan
Wieskamp
Moss if non retarded/Dailey
Cook
Garza

Baer
Connor
Nunge

That really should be about all that see minutes.
 

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Baer had one Rebound in 26 minutes. Hey it's a cool story from walk on to Big Ten player but it's time to end this little experiment. Nunge is the future and needs to be getting the majority of bears minutes
Baer is a great story and some nice depth minutes. He can contribute when used correctly. He's not a Big Ten starter and he shouldn't be out there for those kind of minutes.
 

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Iowa was terrible when Williams played, better when Jordan took all over, and good as Jordan improved. Blaming bohannon for the season is extremely retarded, no matter how bad he is on defense.
He led all scorers vs Rutgers.
That's the problem, he's just good enough offensively that he's turned into a huge prima dona bitch.

If I had to break down how he impacts the game there are alot more negatives.

Positives
- shooting
- helps space the floor

Negatives
- he can't guard anyone
- he's whiny
- he's a terrible leader
- he can't initiate the offense because defenders can push him out to 30 ft
- he can't dribble penetrate
- he commits too many stupid turnovers.
- Our press is less effective because we have a midget trying to double team

His attitude has been the biggest difference between this year and last. Guys don't want to lay it on the line when you have a pansy like him running the show. If you can't have fun playing college basketball then you're a faggot in my eyes.
 
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Iowa was terrible when Williams played, better when Jordan took all over, and good as Jordan improved. Blaming bohannon for the season is extremely retarded, no matter how bad he is on defense.
This is fucking retarded. He isn't that good of an offensive player that defense doesn't matter with this guy. Come the fuck on
 
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Baer had one Rebound in 26 minutes. Hey it's a cool story from walk on to Big Ten player but it's time to end this little experiment. Nunge is the future and needs to be getting the majority of bears minutes
JFC. If this guy was a Metro!!?!? guy, you would be slobbering all over his shaft.
 

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Iowa was terrible when Williams played, better when Jordan took all over, and good as Jordan improved. Blaming bohannon for the season is extremely retarded, no matter how bad he is on defense.
This is fucking retarded. He isn't that good of an offensive player that defense doesn't matter with this guy. Come the fuck on
I didnt say it doesn’t matter. I’m saying he’s just part of a big problem.
 

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Baer had one Rebound in 26 minutes. Hey it's a cool story from walk on to Big Ten player but it's time to end this little experiment. Nunge is the future and needs to be getting the majority of bears minutes
JFC. If this guy was a Metro!!?!? guy, you would be slobbering all over his shaft.
uh, no. It cracks me up when he starts doing the hunchback shuffle. When he has a couple bad plays its more pronounced. Reminds of guys in the nfl who drop easy catches then feign injuries..
 

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Baer had one Rebound in 26 minutes. Hey it's a cool story from walk on to Big Ten player but it's time to end this little experiment. Nunge is the future and needs to be getting the majority of bears minutes
JFC. If this guy was a Metro!!?!? guy, you would be slobbering all over his shaft.
uh, no. It cracks me up when he starts doing the hunchback shuffle. When he has a couple bad plays its more pronounced. Reminds of guys in the nfl who drop easy catches then feign injuries..
Baer is probably our best rebounder, almost certainly on the offensive end. He’s just playing SF. Baer seems like an odd target.
 

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JFC. If this guy was a Metro!!?!? guy, you would be slobbering all over his shaft.
uh, no. It cracks me up when he starts doing the hunchback shuffle. When he has a couple bad plays its more pronounced. Reminds of guys in the nfl who drop easy catches then feign injuries..
Baer is probably our best rebounder, almost certainly on the offensive end. He’s just playing SF. Baer seems like an odd target.
being the best rebounder on this team is like being the prettiest girl in Hudson.
 

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Fuck CJ Frederick. Some of you act like it's not a problem to have some bum taking up the last scholarship, but Fran will play him. Iowa doesn't need another stiff, even if this shooting specialist can actually shoot.
When did you become such a bitch? You're a grown man talking about a high school kid for fuck's sakes.
 

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Fuck CJ Frederick. Some of you act like it's not a problem to have some bum taking up the last scholarship, but Fran will play him. Iowa doesn't need another stiff, even if this shooting specialist can actually shoot.
When did you become such a bitch? You're a grown man talking about a high school kid for fuck's sakes.
We're trying to prognosticate out a player's basketball skills at the college level. Quit being a faggot and taking things so seriously. Do you believe Fran will put CJ in a role that he can succeed at? As I've said before Ellingson would be a great 10 mpg SG with his ability to shoot and move without the ball. Unfortunately Fran is a dumbfuck and doesn't use him that way. I see a similar scenario happening with Frederick. Teams can use players like Frederick but you can't have every member of your backcourt be a spot up shooter that struggles to dribble and defend at the college level.
 

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Fuck CJ Frederick. Some of you act like it's not a problem to have some bum taking up the last scholarship, but Fran will play him. Iowa doesn't need another stiff, even if this shooting specialist can actually shoot.
When did you become such a bitch? You're a grown man talking about a high school kid for fuck's sakes.
Obviously I have nothing against him on a personal level, didn't think I needed to qualify my statement.
 

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"Fuck him, he's a bum". If you think that's dumb, you're being a "faggot".

Or maybe we could just talk like actual adults.
 

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Or maybe we can understand the tenor of this message board and not be a weirdo about it.
 

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So the real deficit for 2016-17 can now stand up and be counted: it comes to a total of $35.4 million plus $11.9 million, or $47.3 million -- the largest deficit in the history of Rutgers athletics. Despite Barchi's oft-expressed pious hopes for athletics self-sufficiency, the program has now blown through a grand total of $193.1 million in deficit spending since he arrived in New Brunswick.
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/02/rutgers_athletics_ongoing_budget_deficit_is_a_sign.html
 

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As I've said before Ellingson would be a great 10 mpg SG with his ability to shoot and move without the ball. Unfortunately Fran is a dumbfuck and doesn't use him that way.
Even after excluding games he missed due to injury, Ellingson is averaging 9.9 minutes per game in Big Ten play.
 

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So the real deficit for 2016-17 can now stand up and be counted: it comes to a total of $35.4 million plus $11.9 million, or $47.3 million -- the largest deficit in the history of Rutgers athletics. Despite Barchi's oft-expressed pious hopes for athletics self-sufficiency, the program has now blown through a grand total of $193.1 million in deficit spending since he arrived in New Brunswick.
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/02/rutgers_athletics_ongoing_budget_deficit_is_a_sign.html
When does Rutgers get the full revenue payout from the Big Ten?
 

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So the real deficit for 2016-17 can now stand up and be counted: it comes to a total of $35.4 million plus $11.9 million, or $47.3 million -- the largest deficit in the history of Rutgers athletics. Despite Barchi's oft-expressed pious hopes for athletics self-sufficiency, the program has now blown through a grand total of $193.1 million in deficit spending since he arrived in New Brunswick.
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/02/rutgers_athletics_ongoing_budget_deficit_is_a_sign.html
When does Rutgers get the full revenue payout from the Big Ten?
Too soon.
 

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As I've said before Ellingson would be a great 10 mpg SG with his ability to shoot and move without the ball. Unfortunately Fran is a dumbfuck and doesn't use him that way.
Even after excluding games he missed due to injury, Ellingson is averaging 9.9 minutes per game in Big Ten play.
Thanks for the research Mike but I was alluding to the fact that Fran played him at PG too often early in the year.
 

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As I've said before Ellingson would be a great 10 mpg SG with his ability to shoot and move without the ball. Unfortunately Fran is a dumbfuck and doesn't use him that way.
Even after excluding games he missed due to injury, Ellingson is averaging 9.9 minutes per game in Big Ten play.
Thanks for the research Mike but I was alluding to the fact that Fran played him at PG too often early in the year.
LMAO
 
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Iowa was terrible when Williams played, better when Jordan took all over, and good as Jordan improved. Blaming bohannon for the season is extremely retarded, no matter how bad he is on defense.
He led all scorers vs Rutgers.
That's the problem, he's just good enough offensively that he's turned into a huge prima dona bitch.

If I had to break down how he impacts the game there are alot more negatives.

Positives
- shooting
- helps space the floor

Negatives
- he can't guard anyone
- he's whiny
- he's a terrible leader
- he can't initiate the offense because defenders can push him out to 30 ft
- he can't dribble penetrate
- he commits too many stupid turnovers.
- Our press is less effective because we have a midget trying to double team

His attitude has been the biggest difference between this year and last. Guys don't want to lay it on the line when you have a pansy like him running the show. If you can't have fun playing college basketball then you're a faggot in my eyes.
Holy crap. I'm sorry I opened this thread. He expends an awful lot of energy on offense because nobody else can handle the ball. That may have a little something to do with his defensive lapses (although yes, I'd love to have a quick lock down defender to put on an opponent's PG penetrating our defense at will). And he has been playing hurt all season long. I'm willing to cut the kid some slack.
 
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uh, no. It cracks me up when he starts doing the hunchback shuffle. When he has a couple bad plays its more pronounced. Reminds of guys in the nfl who drop easy catches then feign injuries..
Baer is probably our best rebounder, almost certainly on the offensive end. He’s just playing SF. Baer seems like an odd target.
being the best rebounder on this team is like being the prettiest girl in Hudson.
There was a pretty blonde from Hudson that went to Wartburg back in 95 or so.
 

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So the real deficit for 2016-17 can now stand up and be counted: it comes to a total of $35.4 million plus $11.9 million, or $47.3 million -- the largest deficit in the history of Rutgers athletics. Despite Barchi's oft-expressed pious hopes for athletics self-sufficiency, the program has now blown through a grand total of $193.1 million in deficit spending since he arrived in New Brunswick.
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/02/rutgers_athletics_ongoing_budget_deficit_is_a_sign.html
When does Rutgers get the full revenue payout from the Big Ten?
This article claims in 2021. Currently making about 20% of other institution payouts:

 
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