**2017–18 Offseason Thread**

[AZmessDAWG]

We’ve been hearing a lot from the players and coaches lately about improved speed, especially at the WR position. Either everyone involved with the program is conspiring to feed us all bullshit, or we might actually have us some athletes this year.

They all had slow twitchectomy surgery.

 

[Geese]

We’ve been hearing a lot from the players and coaches lately about improved speed, especially at the WR position. Either everyone involved with the program is conspiring to feed us all bullshit, or we might actually have us some athletes this year.

They all had slow twitchectomy surgery.

Seems racist lol

 

[KitKatApples]

It's not like he said they all went out and got tans

 

[Gushawk]

Uh no, that’d be you.

Uh no. That would be you.

Nope. You are Gus 2.0.

Fuck you both. I’m super jazzed about my man ISM.

 

[The Dad]

Uh no. That would be you.

Nope. You are Gus 2.0.

Fuck you both. I’m super jazzed about my man ISM.

Looks like we just found the real Gus 2.0.

 

[Harlan]

Is it August 31 yet?

no.

Fuck yeah baby!! Now go get Loog and we are off and running.

@mods please delete this post

 

[Bob]

We’ve been hearing a lot from the players and coaches lately about improved speed, especially at the WR position. Either everyone involved with the program is conspiring to feed us all bullshit, or we might actually have us some athletes this year.

maybe the corners are just really slow

 

[MisterFalcon]

We’ve been hearing a lot from the players and coaches lately about improved speed, especially at the WR position. Either everyone involved with the program is conspiring to feed us all bullshit, or we might actually have us some athletes this year.

maybe the corners are just really slow

 

[Revolver]

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

Who threw that pick 6? (cREAMER on the INT/return bTW)

 

[Brownzy]

Who threw that pick 6? (cREAMER on the INT/return bTW)

Kinda looked like #2, so Mansell.

 

[Jimmie Dimmick]

Frost apparently told him he would get no more reps.

 

[Herky823]

Who threw that pick 6? (cREAMER on the INT/return bTW)

Yeah sometimes when I watch these videos I can't tell if one side of the ball is playing well or if the other just sucks.

 

[sergeanthulka]

Who threw that pick 6? (cREAMER on the INT/return bTW)

Yeah sometimes when I watch these videos I can't tell if one side of the ball is playing well or if the other just sucks.

That ball is late, behind, & lacking zip. I love Mansell, but he sucked on that play.

 

[Bob]

I liked Mansell as a recruit but I'll be really surprised if Petras doesn't pass him within the next year

 

[Tugboat]

I liked Mansell as a recruit but I'll be really surprised if Petras doesn't pass him within the next year

Or this Fall.

 

[Bob]

I'm kinda hoping he can redshirt but I could see it. Part of me hates to see someone lose a year of eligibility just for a handful of snaps in a blowout, but Tate and Stanley both hit the ground running as sophomores so there might be something to it

 

[CurdMan]

I'm kinda hoping he can redshirt but I could see it. Part of me hates to see someone lose a year of eligibility just for a handful of snaps in a blowout, but Tate and Stanley both hit the ground running as sophomores so there might be something to it

Agreed, but that doesn’t make sense unless this is Stanley’s last year - which would be surprising.

 

[wondergrape]

These are the greatest of possible words:
Beathard to Stanley to Petras
Trio of Hawkeyes and swifter than birds:
Beathard to Stanley to Petras

 

[Swingin' Dick Stanzi]

Hopefully Fant doesn’t get drafted against his will later this month before he gets to play his third and final season with the Hawks.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Fant will be a first/second round pick next spring

 

[Bob Sanders]

Hopefully Fant doesn’t get drafted against his will later this month before he gets to play his third and final season with the Hawks.

Holy fucking shit. That Iowa TE pro agility record is no joke. IIRC Dallas Clark had a top 5ish pro agility or 3 cone result the year he was at the combine, regardless of position. He might beat Kittle's 40 time too.

Not to mention the 42.1" vert...

 

[Gushawk]

Really do their research:

https://www.cfbhourglass.com/home/2018/4/11/2018-big-10-college-football-projections-on-the-hour-glass

 

[nolookpass]

Id wouldn't be surprised to see Fant and Stanley both leave after this season.

 

[Hawk&Balls]

Id wouldn't.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

A 42" vertical. That's normal.

 

[FrodoTBaggin]

 

[Herky823]

A 42" vertical. That's normal.

That's higher than Bob freaking sanders. The poster and the football player.

 

[Bob]

Really do their research:

https://www.cfbhourglass.com/home/2018/4/11/2018-big-10-college-football-projections-on-the-hour-glass

I am extremely skeptical of a coaching metric that concludes that Jeff Brohm is a negative

 

[cjhawks]

QB for the rodents is wrong as well - I believe Croft transferred out

 

[Jimmie Dimmick]

Really do their research:

https://www.cfbhourglass.com/home/2018/4/11/2018-big-10-college-football-projections-on-the-hour-glass

@Monster

 

[Monster]

Dispatch, I need to report a possible code 11-1 in progress on cfbhourglass.com. Request immediate back up to put down expectations.

 

[YugoslavianMountainHound]

I think this is a testament to the new technology in the S&C program. Apparently they are hitting target weights/strengths earlier and earlier in the offseason. It shows in that while we periodically have guys that are freaks, Fant is still in his 2nd year in the program.


See also James Daniels was a true third year able to turn pro.

 

[Geese]

A 42" vertical. That's normal.

That's higher than Bob freaking sanders. The poster and the football player.

Combined!

 

[WCFHawkeye]

Really do their research:

https://www.cfbhourglass.com/home/2018/4/11/2018-big-10-college-football-projections-on-the-hour-glass

@Monster

It seems to me their research is remarkably accurate up until December then someone missed the mark.

 

[Talkin' Goat]

Hopefully Fant doesn’t get drafted against his will later this month before he gets to play his third and final season with the Hawks.

 

[Lime]

wasn't Iowa the only school projecting him as a TE and not DE? that worked out.

 

[Bob Sanders]

It passed.

 

[hawkeyealum]

Gay

 

[Bob]

It passed.

Just get rid of kickoffs

wasn't Iowa the only school projecting him as a TE and not DE? that worked out.

I don't know about only but Nebrantska was definitely recruiting him as a DE.

 

[The Incredible Hawk]

It passed.

Just get rid of kickoffs

This seems like the easy fix, but then a team has zero chance at a comeback if they are down two scores because it eliminates the onside kick.

 

[douglasbader]

It passed.

Just get rid of kickoffs

This seems like the easy fix, but then a team has zero chance at a comeback if they are down two scores because it eliminates the onside kick.

There have also been a number of games completely swung on a team with a surprise onside kick to start the half or after they have momentum in the second half.

I think the rule they passed now is about the best you can ask for without eliminating the kickoff. The other factor in this is the kickoff teams is where most of your young players get their first experience playing. If you eliminate kickoffs completely, then a lot of players won't see the field that usually would.

 

[Bob]

It passed.

Just get rid of kickoffs

This seems like the easy fix, but then a team has zero chance at a comeback if they are down two scores because it eliminates the onside kick.

I don't think that happens often enough to really be a huge concern. It's very cool when it does but the percentage of onside kicks that actually work has to to be pretty tiny. I imagine you could gimmick in some sort of rule to replace standard onside kicks too if you really thought about it for awhile.

I don't remember the exact number but kickoffs lead to concussions way more often than any other play, for what is ultimately a pretty minor part of the game. I don't think anyone would really notice a couple years. No one really gets mad at the concept of a touchback so it's not like the kickoff is THAT important

 

[hawkeyealum]

 

[MikeyJoe]

Just get rid of kickoffs

This seems like the easy fix, but then a team has zero chance at a comeback if they are down two scores because it eliminates the onside kick.

I don't think that happens often enough to really be a huge concern. It's very cool when it does but the percentage of onside kicks that actually work has to to be pretty tiny. I imagine you could gimmick in some sort of rule to replace standard onside kicks too if you really thought about it for awhile.

I don't remember the exact number but kickoffs lead to concussions way more often than any other play, for what is ultimately a pretty minor part of the game. I don't think anyone would really notice a couple years. No one really gets mad at the concept of a touchback so it's not like the kickoff is THAT important

Even if the strategy is rarely used successfully, taking it away would has a large negative impact because you’re dramatically increasing the amount of time that a game can be definitively unwinnable.

 

[douglasbader]

This seems like the easy fix, but then a team has zero chance at a comeback if they are down two scores because it eliminates the onside kick.

I don't think that happens often enough to really be a huge concern. It's very cool when it does but the percentage of onside kicks that actually work has to to be pretty tiny. I imagine you could gimmick in some sort of rule to replace standard onside kicks too if you really thought about it for awhile.

I don't remember the exact number but kickoffs lead to concussions way more often than any other play, for what is ultimately a pretty minor part of the game. I don't think anyone would really notice a couple years. No one really gets mad at the concept of a touchback so it's not like the kickoff is THAT important

Even if the strategy is rarely used successfully, taking it away would has a large negative impact because you’re dramatically increasing the amount of time that a game can be definitively unwinnable.

I could see a situation where they take away the kickoff but not the option for an onside kick. It would of course take the surprise kicks out of the equation but still leave the option to keep the possibility of an end of the game comeback in play.

 

[CamelTones]

Geno Stone...

 

[Bob]

This seems like the easy fix, but then a team has zero chance at a comeback if they are down two scores because it eliminates the onside kick.

I don't think that happens often enough to really be a huge concern. It's very cool when it does but the percentage of onside kicks that actually work has to to be pretty tiny. I imagine you could gimmick in some sort of rule to replace standard onside kicks too if you really thought about it for awhile.

I don't remember the exact number but kickoffs lead to concussions way more often than any other play, for what is ultimately a pretty minor part of the game. I don't think anyone would really notice a couple years. No one really gets mad at the concept of a touchback so it's not like the kickoff is THAT important

Even if the strategy is rarely used successfully, taking it away would has a large negative impact because you’re dramatically increasing the amount of time that a game can be definitively unwinnable.

Schiano had an idea where the kicking team to could choose to either let the other team start with a touchback or send their offense out for a 4th and 20 (or maybe 4th and 15, I don't quite remember) from their own 35 yard line, which would give them a chance to keep the offense on the field without necessitating a kickoff. Or just give them the option to try an onside like Doug said.

 

[Lime]

I don't think that happens often enough to really be a huge concern. It's very cool when it does but the percentage of onside kicks that actually work has to to be pretty tiny. I imagine you could gimmick in some sort of rule to replace standard onside kicks too if you really thought about it for awhile.

I don't remember the exact number but kickoffs lead to concussions way more often than any other play, for what is ultimately a pretty minor part of the game. I don't think anyone would really notice a couple years. No one really gets mad at the concept of a touchback so it's not like the kickoff is THAT important

Even if the strategy is rarely used successfully, taking it away would has a large negative impact because you’re dramatically increasing the amount of time that a game can be definitively unwinnable.

I could see a situation where they take away the kickoff but not the option for an onside kick. It would of course take the surprise kicks out of the equation but still leave the option to keep the possibility of an end of the game comeback in play.

the idea that seems to have traction is that after TDs, a team would have 4th-and-15 or 4th-and-20 at their 30 or 35. they would have the option to punt it (your average net would be the 20 or 25) or go for it (think the conversion rate is like 10-15% which is about the same as an onside kick). you would also even have the fake punt as a surprise onside kick I guess. in theory it's sound although it feels contrived.